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So how does that explain signing Bajcetic 2 years ago at 16?

If the rules weren't constantly changing every 5 mins it'd be a little easier to follow, but as I'm aware clubs (include English) can sign maximum of 3 kids from overseas.

Not entirely sure - like I said rules for Europe were different for 16-18 year olds - and he was signed in 2020 before full Brexit rules applied - so that’s likely to have played a part.

I don’t know how they’ve changed since then- points score would apply to over 18’s, but not sure about the 16-18 yo.

To be fair, we’ve signed a fair few young European’s until lately - so I figure it’s something Brexit-related or Tory incompetence/negligence in getting it fixed.

I’m sure there are loopholes that certain teams are exploiting.
 
What are you all even fucking talking about? We're looking at some kid and now you're all off down some bellend hypothetical sewer because he had the audacity to be from the UK.
 
What are you all even fucking talking about? We're looking at some kid and now you're all off down some bellend hypothetical sewer because he had the audacity to be from the UK.

Just trying to give the loons some context before they get irate at not being able to sign people we can’t sign.

I thought we’d already established this one was acceptable.
 
We can't sign outside the UK under 18. Previously when we were in the EU we could.
FIFA have changed the rules like 3 times in the last 5 years, it's a load of shit....there was something concrete which was announced few months ago which said English clubs could sign max 3 or was it 4 u18 players after Prem clubs pushed against the idea....

Edit: Well looks like you can sign them but not register them until their 18th birthday, so we can still be out there scouting and signing them to pre-contracts. This summer Chelsea have signed some 17 year old Jamaican international + that 16 year old Brazilian they spent 16m on.
 
I think to comply with freedom of movement we could sign 16 year old previously from the EU. Normally, you're the one who is hot on this topic.

I was reading something about it the other week - along with the removal of the 90 minute rule and new Academy structure in England - but it wasn’t entirely clear what the rules are now.
 
FIFA have changed the rules like 3 times in the last 5 years, it's a load of shit....there was something concrete which was announced few months ago which said English clubs could sign max 3 or was it 4 u18 players after Prem clubs pushed against the idea....

Edit: Well looks like you can sign them but not register them until their 18th birthday, so we can still be out there scouting and signing them to pre-contracts. This summer Chelsea have signed some 17 year old Jamaican international + that 16 year old Brazilian they spent 16m on.

Like I said - there will be loopholes that Chelsea and likely City will be exploiting.

I think part of the FIFA international rule is that it can happen if the family decides to relocate… or something along those lines.
 
I was reading something about it the other week - along with the removal of the 90 minute rule and new Academy structure in England - but it wasn’t entirely clear what the rules are now.
All I know is we can't go after U18s outside the UK (so Scotland is okay), and that definitely is a FIFA rule. No idea what Cruella Braverman wants to do though.
 
Like I said - there will be loopholes that Chelsea and likely City will be exploiting.

I think part of the FIFA international rule is that it can happen if the family decides to relocate… or something along those lines.
It doesn't count as child trafficking if you enslave the whole family?
 
Didn't you post that the scouts where lazy because they never signed anyone from Laanndann? Make up your mind.

I don't believe I did, no? We have a few examples where we have in Harvey and Fabio but feel free to quote me. I've called them lazy but nothing to do with not scouting in London, I don't want us to scout in London...... I know I've certainly never typed London like that lol.
 
I don't believe I did, no? We have a few examples where we have in Harvey and Fabio but feel free to quote me. I've called them lazy but nothing to do with not scouting in London, I don't want us to scout in London...... I know I've certainly never typed London like that lol.
Why would London be bad place? Due to its population its likely to have the most talent anywhere in the UK. However, I do agree with you, that we need to look far and wide for over 18s (FIFA rules) and start picking them up for £1-10m. Then send them out on loan to European clubs. If they don't work out sell them, if they do promote them to the first team.
 
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Why would London be bad place? Due to its population its likely to have the most talent anywhere in the UK

It’s nothing to do with London or that it’s a bad place, for me it’s very clear the big talents lie in either south america or africa and seeing as we have zero coverage in those continents it’d be nice to expand our network to those regions.
 
I don't believe I did, no? We have a few examples where we have in Harvey and Fabio but feel free to quote me. I've called them lazy but nothing to do with not scouting in London, I don't want us to scout in London...... I know I've certainly never typed London like that lol.
Yet they still ended up at the Saints academy....which tells you what exactly?

Where did Colwill grow up? Mount? Not in London....yet ended up at London academies.

They're scouts put in the work. Our network has left the building.
Maybe I misread your previous post?
 
True but foreign players can also count to that quota once they turn 21 and been at the club in our developmental system for 3 years.

We can't do that anymore. The likes of the Bajectic deal are on longer possible, hence shifting to UK based young players.
 
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Liverpool should repeat Dominik Szoboszlai trick to solve two dilemmas with one transfer
Liverpool needs to find a backup to Trent Alexander-Arnold, and by repeating its Dominik Szoboszlai trick, it could also solve another dilemma in the squad.

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The question of who Trent Alexander-Arnold's backup should be at Liverpool has been a long-standing one. Ever since he emerged as the club's first-choice right-back, there simply haven’t been any players who have been adequately capable of filling his shoes.
It's a debate that also doesn't look like it will end any time soon. Conor Bradley has impressed in pre-season and has done very well playing as an inverted full-back, but there are question marks in terms of whether he is capable of making the step up to Liverpool after only playing League One football in his career so far.

And this Alexander-Arnold debate is also not eased by his recent transition into midfield. Having filled a hybrid role during the latter stages of last season, the academy graduate has featured as a number six in pre-season in the absence of Fabinho and Jordan Henderson.



The path between Red Bull and Liverpool is well-trodden now. This summer, Dominik Szoboszlai became the fifth player to have played for a Red Bull club to sign for Liverpool, and relations are thought to be solid between the Reds and both RB Leipzig and Red Bull Salzburg, easing negotiations.
Liverpool clearly can't afford to spend a lot of money on a potential backup, which is why going to a club like Salzburg, which doesn't command extortionate fees and whom the club has done business with before, is ideal.

In the Austrian side's current right-back, Liverpool also has an ideal fit in terms of what the club is looking for. 20-year-old Bosnian international Amar Dedić is quick and direct on the ball and composed in possession.
Very adept with both feet, Dedić is capable of cutting into the middle and making long, Alexander-Arnold-esque switches across the pitch.

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Amar Dedić should be on Liverpool's transfer radar. (Image: Sebastian Frej/MB Media/Getty Images)
Last season he made seven goal contributions for Salzburg, which is not the greatest return, but Dedić's underlying numbers were quite solid with the Bosnian averaging 2.52 crosses per 90 in the Austrian Bundesliga and racking up 2.63 progressive runs, which was the most out of any full-back in the league as per Wyscout.
Crucially, he also showed himself to be a strong defender. Dedić won 63.74 per cent of his defensive duels and averaged an impressive 7.64 possession-adjusted interceptions.
Still raw but highly regarded, recently he even wore the armband for his team during the club's first Bundesliga game of the season despite only being 20 years old, which shows just how highly the club regards him.
Capable of also playing as a left-back, due to being comfortable with both feet, Dedić is an exceptional talent and, because of his versatility, he could be a valuable addition to Jürgen Klopp's squad, and the club should think about bringing him to Anfield either this summer or in the future. Not only could he be an ideal backup as a full-back, but he could also free Alexander-Arnold up to make a more permanent transition into midfield.
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Its just hit me that we actually have zero experienced midfielders in our team left if you dont count Thiago. All we have and can trust are Mac10, Szob, Jones

Only Elliot and Bajcetic Fuck me we just 2 midfield injuries away from being fucked this coming season.
 
Fuck me we just 2 midfield injuries away from being fucked this coming season.

It’s always felt like that. Look at 20/21 season, Virg and Matip out for season. Last season Diaz and Jota. I guess you’re only ever a few injuries away from falling apart. City and Arsenal were lucky last season not to sustain any real low term blows.
 
Its just hit me that we actually have zero experienced midfielders in our team left if you dont count Thiago. All we have and can trust are Mac10, Szob, Jones

Only Elliot and Bajcetic Fuck me we just 2 midfield injuries away from being fucked this coming season.

Everyone is just 2 midfield injuries away from being fucked.

City are currently going into next season with Rodri, Kovacic, Silva, de Bruyne & Phillips.

Why do you think Gakpo played a couple of preseason games in MF?

We are light by at least 1 DM - and it’s been pointed out a billion times that selling all our experienced players doesn’t exactly look like it was planned - particularly as the one experienced midfielder we look like retaining is the one who will spend most of the season watching games from the treatment table.

Yes - in an ideal world we’d add 2 DM’s and replace Thiago with someone that isn’t the footballing equivalent of an Alfa Romeo - looks great but keeps breaking down.

But we won’t - so strap in and cross your fingers that Curtis stops trying to emulate Thiago.
 
Everyone is just 2 midfield injuries away from being fucked.

City are currently going into next season with Rodri, Kovacic, Silva, de Bruyne & Phillips.

Why do you think Gakpo played a couple of preseason games in MF?

We are light by at least 1 DM - and it’s been pointed out a billion times that selling all our experienced players doesn’t exactly look like it was planned - particularly as the one experienced midfielder we look like retaining is the one who will spend most of the season watching games from the treatment table.

Yes - in an ideal world we’d add 2 DM’s and replace Thiago with someone that isn’t the footballing equivalent of an Alfa Romeo - looks great but keeps breaking down.

But we won’t - so strap in and cross your fingers that Curtis stops trying to emulate Thiago.
It was all good what you said, but the Klopp methods make our players breakdown more often than other players. Also, Curtis can and will do a better job than Thiago will and has done for us.
 
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