Hopefully he will start our next game
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Surely not if he's only just back.
Ease him back in like tonight.
Superb play for the goal.
That's the real trick for Sturbridge though isn't it.
An examination of his playing time data would suggest that that was improbable.
Hence the call to bring another striker in who will actually get to play a sustained run of games. I would only sell if there was a shit hot reinforcement coming in.
Is that the woodwork hit 3 tiles in his last 4 attempts?
Useless sell.
Useless sell.
He's incredibly talented. But if a decent replacement is available in jan I can see why the club would sell for the reasons in my post.
Yeh, I love Firmino but he's been in poor form, Sturridge should take his place, especially when you consider we've got that dickhead two games in 48 hours shit to contend with.
He's never going to replace Firmino because he doesn't do half the work, tracking back, or gegenpressing Firmino does - and that's a key aspect of Kopp's game plan. It's Origi or Sturridge.
Firmino had a very good second half yesterday. He's a bit like Wijnaldum and his extremely hard work for the team goes a bit unnoticed.
He's a big part of this team and the way our attack is set up. Need to add some goals again to his game though.
Ditto. I could understand if Sturridge was starting but Origi played extremely well for us, at the end of last season, in exactly Firmino's starting position, and he's stronger and faster there too. Whilst for Firmino he's far more involved and dangerous, both creatively and in scoring, when played central. I'd love to know Klopp's reasoning - Firmino to track back with Coleman in this match perhaps ?
The front 3 is interchanging their positions a lot during the game regardless though, so it doesnt mean much where they start the match.
We do look much better balanced when Firmino and Origi switches positions. Firmino struggles to impose himself in games when he's isolated out wide.
Good summary. My guess is Klopp switches it to try and keep opponents guessing, but I don't think it's worth the trouble. When we're on song they can't stop us even if they know how we're going to line up.
I think it has to do with defensive shape – Origi is too valuable to hold the ball up front, so Firmino was called upon to do the donkey work on the wing for the first 30 minutes or so when we were under pressure. As soon as Everton tired, Firmino switched to the middle and we dominated the rest of the way. But I don't think it would have been a good idea to leave Milner alone against Valencia and Coleman for the first 30 minutes – our clean sheet shows that Klopp has got the balance right in this game.
It's a headband?
For a minute there I thought you said "headwand".
I think it will be a terrible shame and a huge waste of a brilliant talent if we let him slip through our fingers, because of a slight sacrifice on how we play.
Sure, I fully get and understand that for Klopp's side to function, it has three well drilled, interchangeable, pressing forwards. I get that completely. But managers have to earn their crust too and show they can adapt - especially when they have such talents at their disposal.
Our last several managers have all ultimately failed due to an inability to compromise, to be able to work around what players they had when their "cogs" were missing. I think Klopp has started to overcome this in other areas of the team. For instance we've defended quite well without Matip in the last few games, we've completely restructured the midfield in one fell swoop, which had everyone scratching their heads at first, but it worked unquestionably well.
The biggest ace we have up our sleeve is that in one of the two more advanced midfield roles, we can play a player who presses and makes us tick. We can play Lallana, Wijnaldum or even Firmino or Coutinho. If you then have two players working hard on the flanks (which we generally do), then having someone behind Sturridge who will be working their bollocks off, will help him and keep the system working.
Of course, Sturridge has to play a part. He has to be less work shy, less concerned about injury I guess. He's tried, I think he's had a go at it but I think his natural instincts are when he can either pick the ball up wide or deep and use the defenders to bend the ball around with a shot, or when he can hang around the box and hope to pounce on a loose ball. He can make things happen and can be the difference in the tighter games. Forget all the bollocks from the neigh sayers about his record this season, if you get him in this side regularly, he will get goals. No question.
People have become too caught up on Klopp's system being the norm and Sturridge being some terrible, lazy disruptive influence. He's not. We just have to learn how to harness his talents in this system, and then when we do need to use him, it's not something that's already dead in the water. We saw it last season with Benteke, a complete unwillingness to play to his strengths and rather embarrassing attempts to ask him to play as though he was suddenly this quick, agile attacker. Something he clearly wasn't.
Sturridge has all of the attributes to play in a quick, technical, interchangeable Klopp side. He drops wide and deep, roams the front line, is incredibly intelligent on the ball and can score goals better than anyone in this team. He's not as fast as he was, but he's no slug either, certainly as quick or quicker than many of our forward players like Firmino, Lallana and possibly even Coutinho.
It's a no brainer, don't buy into the rest of the bullshit. If he plays and gets going in this team (and stays fit, obv), he'll score alot of goals for us.
Sure, I fully get and understand that for Klopp's side to function, it has three well drilled, interchangeable, pressing forwards. I get that completely. But managers have to earn their crust too and show they can adapt - especially when they have such talents at their disposal.
Our last several managers have all ultimately failed due to an inability to compromise, to be able to work around what players they had when their "cogs" were missing. I think Klopp has started to overcome this in other areas of the team. For instance we've defended quite well without Matip in the last few games, we've completely restructured the midfield in one fell swoop, which had everyone scratching their heads at first, but it worked unquestionably well.
The biggest ace we have up our sleeve is that in one of the two more advanced midfield roles, we can play a player who presses and makes us tick. We can play Lallana, Wijnaldum or even Firmino or Coutinho. If you then have two players working hard on the flanks (which we generally do), then having someone behind Sturridge who will be working their bollocks off, will help him and keep the system working.
Of course, Sturridge has to play a part. He has to be less work shy, less concerned about injury I guess. He's tried, I think he's had a go at it but I think his natural instincts are when he can either pick the ball up wide or deep and use the defenders to bend the ball around with a shot, or when he can hang around the box and hope to pounce on a loose ball. He can make things happen and can be the difference in the tighter games. Forget all the bollocks from the neigh sayers about his record this season, if you get him in this side regularly, he will get goals. No question.
People have become too caught up on Klopp's system being the norm and Sturridge being some terrible, lazy disruptive influence. He's not. We just have to learn how to harness his talents in this system, and then when we do need to use him, it's not something that's already dead in the water. We saw it last season with Benteke, a complete unwillingness to play to his strengths and rather embarrassing attempts to ask him to play as though he was suddenly this quick, agile attacker. Something he clearly wasn't.
Sturridge has all of the attributes to play in a quick, technical, interchangeable Klopp side. He drops wide and deep, roams the front line, is incredibly intelligent on the ball and can score goals better than anyone in this team. He's not as fast as he was, but he's no slug either, certainly as quick or quicker than many of our forward players like Firmino, Lallana and possibly even Coutinho.
It's a no brainer, don't buy into the rest of the bullshit. If he plays and gets going in this team (and stays fit, obv), he'll score alot of goals for us.
He´s the best player we have and if I had to chose one player to have a one on one with the goalkeeper I´d chose Sturridge 10 times out of 10.
Actually Klopps only weakness seems to be that he can´t find a way to play Sturridge in the starting XI (when fit obviously).
Perhaps/Hopefully it´s because he hasn´t had the chance.
Actually Klopps only weakness seems to be that he can´t find a way to play Sturridge in the starting XI (when fit obviously).
Perhaps/Hopefully it´s because he hasn´t had the chance.
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