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Sturridge wants a transfer
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We'll prob do a Carroll and pay half
Get ready to get a bid from Italy for a loan and then a low-ball offer
Yeah, that.
Plus the looming suspicion that even if he WAS fully fit, the 100% fit version of Sturridge in 2017, is nowhere near as good as the 100% fit version of Sturridge in 2012-14.
That's been my issue with him. His best now is still slower and less explosive than he was, and is therefore not even close to being the same player or anywhere near as effective.
We're not paying for Carrolls wages.
Andy Carroll failed to push through his £100,000-a-week wage demands despite agreeing a six-year contract to move to West Ham United last night.
The England forward is believed to have agreed to remain on the £80,000 a week he earned at Liverpool. He will cost an initial £15.5 million, rising by £2 million based on appearances, breaking a West Ham transfer record that was set when Matt Jarvis signed for £11 million from Wolverhampton Wanderers last summer.
I don't know if many fans outside of LFC realize how far he has regressed though. Fucking hell it took most of our fans years to finally realize he was gone
The thing we Sturridge is that he doesn't seem to think he has lost that explosiveness or pace. Look at him and Sterling's reaction when he heard his new pace rating in FIFA (4m:14s):
They're both genuinely shocked. Probably because Sterling played/trained with the 2014 version and hasn't seen the 2017 one who is a shadow of his former self.
Fair enough I thought we were, maybe it was when it was a loan?
I'm sure we have a history of doing that though after giving shite players big money and then struggling to offload them
Well, there's always hope, and we hardly saw enough of him to make any kind of judgement, due to those injuries.
Your main issue with Sturridge wasn't an obvious decline in his abilities, it was the time he spent not playing.
True I always thought he wasn't worth it for 10 games a year and I still think that's true even he still had the ability of 13/14. The fact he doesn't makes the decision all the easier to get rid
He was, but he's hardly played since so I'll be amazed if a club at PSG's level comes in for him, and that really leaves only the Southamptons of this world, especially if he wants a regular starting place.
I guess there is little incentive for us to sell mid-season unless someone comes in with a silly offer.
West Ham and Everton are the most desperate (would we really sell to Everton?) but I find it hard to imagine Sturridge agreeing to leave us for a relegation battle.
West Ham and Everton are the most desperate (would we really sell to Everton?) but I find it hard to imagine Sturridge agreeing to leave us for a relegation battle.
A broken sturridge is still a lot better than Solanke, Ings and Brewster.
That's not entirely correct is it?
I don't think Southgate has a serious new policy about such players. He was rightly miffed when Wenger arrogantly declared England should play an Arsenal play whom Arsenal weren't playing, so he chose one squad that lacked the likes of Studge and others who weren't getting games. When it comes to the World Cup, he'll pick whoever the heck he thinks can help him not to come back humiliated.
The lack of understanding about Firminho's role in this team is astonishing.
Think about long term benefit to the team.
Agreed, but he's actually Firmino ("Fir-meeno"), not Firminho ("Fir-meenyo"). Such things do make a difference - that pillock Beecroft on Talksh!te keeps pronouncing Moreno's name "Mourinho" for example.
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A halt-fit, half-broken Studge has scored 2 in 3 starts. I can't believe some are implying Solanke, an unproven rookie, to be better than him. Honestly, if a game's tied with 20 mins to go, who’d you rather bring on though ? Solanke, Ings or Studge ?
Without a doubt, Studge for me cos you just know he’s more likely to score a winner out of those 2. You can throw in Firmino into the mix too, not to discredit Firmino though.
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Without a doubt, Studge for me cos you just know he’s more likely to score a winner out of those 2. You can throw in Firmino into the mix too, not to discredit Firmino though.
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Sturridge may have only scored one less league goal than Firmino, despite only starting three games, but that's not really the issue is it? We know he's a good finisher, but that isn't what Klopp wants or needs.
Firmino doesn't start games over Sturridge (or Solanke, or Ings) for his goals - he is arguably the worst finisher Liverpool have ever had playing up front since Diouf - it is his workrate, his tackling, pressing and interceptions higher up the pitch, and how he interacts with Mane, Coutinho and Salah.
Sturridge wants to be starting games and it doesn't look like he will do that anymore at Liverpool, and it's hard to argue that the other aspects of his game - mobility, pace, acceleration etc - have not returned since his three years of injury-plagued hell, and never will. So he should be sold.
Those are the nicest things I've ever heard you say about Firmino.
I think that Sterling’s “surprise” at Sturridge’s FIFA ratings isn’t genuine at all. Sterling isn’t stupid - he recognizes that agreeing with that valuation also devalues a player in real life.
I'm now convinced that he isn't the same player we bought a few years ago. His best trait, his acceleration isn't there anymore. He's an OK finisher but not at the standard we expect. That could be said about a lot of our current players, but hey, it is what it is. Wish him well wherever he ends up.
Depends which club I owned.
I'm going to be very much in the minority here, but I would still not rule out Sturridge reinventing himself. OK, he's lost a yard of pace – but he has plenty of other good qualities and perhaps at the moment he's in the process to adjusting his game to his "new" body. Do you remember how Gerrard was pretty "meh" for at least a season after he came back from the surgeries? He's lost his pace AND his shot – and yet after some time he's figured out how to use the qualities he had left and reinvented himself as a damn good DLP.
Sturridge will need to change his game to stop relying on his acceleration so much – but it's not a hopeless endeavor and there are plenty of strikers in the EPL who are slower than Sturridge is now and still find a way to score goals. I mean, fucking Chicharito, Glenn Murray and Okazaki are on pace for 12-15 league goals each. Studge has far more talent and if he makes correct adjustments (and stays fit, obviously) I can still see him being a dangerous goal-scorer in this league. Whether it's a chance worth taking for LFC (especially considering how much he is being paid) is another matter.
Sturridge will need to change his game to stop relying on his acceleration so much – but it's not a hopeless endeavor and there are plenty of strikers in the EPL who are slower than Sturridge is now and still find a way to score goals. I mean, fucking Chicharito, Glenn Murray and Okazaki are on pace for 12-15 league goals each. Studge has far more talent and if he makes correct adjustments (and stays fit, obviously) I can still see him being a dangerous goal-scorer in this league. Whether it's a chance worth taking for LFC (especially considering how much he is being paid) is another matter.
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