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Sterling to Tell Rodgers he wants to leave this summer

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He's unique amongst modern day young footballers there then.
He's pretty unique in that I don't remember the last time a 20 year old footballer not only rejected a 100k per week offer, but went ahead and had a public interview about it, while his agent kicks up a fuss in the press, completely disrespecting the club that pays his wages.
I doubt Pogba was offered as much money when he left the Mancs.
 
By the way, with regards to letting him rot with the reserves or in a corner, the club will be mindful of the following in FIFA's Regulations on the Status and Transfer of Players.

14 Terminating a contract with just cause
A contract may be terminated by either party without consequences of any kind (either payment of compensation or imposition of sporting sanctions) where there is just cause.

15 Terminating a contract with sporting just cause
An established professional who has, in the course of the season, appeared in fewer than ten per cent of the official matches in which his club has been involved may terminate his contract prematurely on the ground of sporting just cause. Due consideration shall be given to the player’s circumstances in the appraisal of such cases. The existence of sporting just cause shall be established on a case-by-case basis. In such a case, sporting sanctions shall not be imposed, though compensation may be payable. A professional may only terminate his contract on this basis in the 15 days following the last official match of the season of the club with which he is registered.

The bold bit works in favour of the club, because if it feels like being nasty, it can just throw the player on for token minutes in games. However, the blue stuff gives some wiggle room for a player to argue his case if we just play him in, say, 11% of games, to meet the requirements. In Sterling's case, I think he'll have a good argument to terminate with sporting just cause if we do that to him, given his performances and contributions in these two seasons.

Taking "Article 17 - Consequences of terminating a contract without just cause" into consideration, I think we basically have the scenarios below. Cases 1 and 2 are obviously clear-cut. Case 3 is a consequence of Articles 14 and 15, while Cases 4 and 5 are results of Article 17, and involve some wrangling which could cost the club(s) and the player time and money.

1. He signs an extension, which then resets the 3-year protected period... not going to happen unless Ward is out of the picture

2. We sell him.

3. We screw him about for a year, playing him in shit games in freezing grounds, or giving him garbage minutes; he loses a year of meaningful playing time, and files to leave with just cause. If his case is upheld under Articles 14 and 15, he leaves without any sporting sanctions at the end of next season (compensation to LFC possibly payable).
End result: We get nothing out of him for a year, may not get compensation, and he leaves having wasted a year.

4. We go about as normal, playing him in games on his current pay - he incurs an opportunity cost of 70+K a week for a year, submits a termination request within 15 days of the end of the season, i.e. he terminates his contract without just cause and outside the protected period (3 years from his last contract signing, which was Dec 2012). No sporting sanctions will apply to him or the club he joins (compensation to LFC is payable).
End result: We get a year out of him, and get some compensation. He gets to play, and gets to go where he wants to.

5. He submits a termination request within 15 days of the end of this season, i.e. he terminates the current contract without just cause and still within the protected period of his contract. Compensation is payable to us, he faces sporting sanctions (4- to 6-month ban from official club games at national and international level at the new club, starting from the new season) and the new club faces a possible ban on registering new players for 2 consecutive transfer windows unless they can prove they weren't involved in inducing the contract breach (the rules say they're presumed guilty until proven innocent - serious!). Any person who is involved in inducing this breach (agent, player, official, etc.) is liable for sanctions (no mention of what these are).
End result: We get compensation, he loses 4 to 6 months, the club picking him up may get banned for 2 windows; the agent gets sanctioned but who knows what that means.
 
So if we play 50 games next season, he gets on the field for 6 of them. Not going to happen, but fine by me if it did.

Well like I said, the part about things being evaluated on a case by case basis works in the player's favour in this particular case, unless we can prove that his minutes were limited for good reason (e.g. injury, attitude problems, etc.).
 
Well like I said, the part about things being evaluated on a case by case basis works in the player's favour in this particular case, unless we can prove that his minutes were limited for good reason (e.g. injury, attitude problems, etc.).

I think you have misread it. 10% is sufficient, its explicitly stated. Only if its less than 10% is there any case to examine.
 
From Brendan's presser:


"It's very difficult to comment on what other people speak about. We've always been very clear here.

"Any discussions will be dealt with internally. We will deal with things in-house and be as private as we can possibly be.

"My focus remains to improve Raheem as a footballer."

For me it's very clear. Raheem, whether there are talks or no talks, has two years left and I expect him to see that through.

"I don't see Raheem unhappy. He's a young boy who's developed well over the last three seasons and we hope that development will continue here.

"He will be available for selection this weekend."

"Liverpool supporters always back their own players. If he plays any part in the game, Raheem will get the support of our fans."

"Whatever conversation I have with the player or with a member of staff will remain [private]. I certainly won't tell you what was said."

"The owners have shown their strength in their time here, they have done an incredible job in these last years, and in every opportunity they have had to show that strength, whether it's a player or something else, they've shown that."
 
I guess the question is now, what does Rodgers do this weekend? Normally when these transfers sagas are happening, the season is over.
With one game to play, does he start Sterling, bench him, drop him completely?
 
To be fair to him he just gave short answers to specific questions, which I've just put together here.
 
I think BR actually dealt with that pretty well, to be fair. He often talks utter wank and makes you cringe, but he clearly thinks the club are in a strong position.
I'm with Macca. Play others. nothing to play for, give them some PL experience.
 
With grim predictability, Arsene 'Mr Morality' Wenger sticks his snout into the debate:



Arsène Wenger has suggested that he would not be put off signing Raheem Sterling by the contract stand-off that has developed with Liverpool or the behaviour of the forward’s agent.
Arsenal have been linked with a move for Sterling, whose agent, Aidy Ward, was quoted as saying on Thursday that the 20-year-old would not sign a newLiverpool contract for “£900,000 a week”.
“I’m not sure that it is the player who causes the problem,” said Wenger when asked if a situation such as Sterling’s would deter him from pursuing an individual. “Most of the time it’s not the player who causes the problems. They come as a package, that’s true, but the problems do not always come from the player. Sometimes they come from the package.”


Oh, Arsene, mate - the next time you want the whole football world to stand by your side to denounce Barca or the mancs for tapping one of your players up - don't hold your breath, okay?
 
He's had a shit season and he's a little wanker. I'm not angry with him, I don't get all the let him rot in the reserves stuff, he's too fucking stupid to get angry with... but he's obviously a massive fucking bellend. It's like one of them dogs that eats turds. You can't get angry with it, you just need to get rid.
 
He's had a shit season and he's a little wanker. I'm not angry with him, I don't get all the let him rot in the reserves stuff, he's too fucking stupid to get angry with... but he's obviously a massive fucking bellend. It's like one of them dogs that eats turds. You can't angry with it, you just need to get rid.

Ha, he's the opposite of someone like Joe Allen. I remember saying that I couldn't stay mad at him when he falls over or fucks up.

"I could never stay mad at Joe Allen. He's like your little nephew. Good as gold and then he goes and draws on the wall or puts a ham sandwich in the dvd player. You're a bit mad at him but still love him. "
 
Heard these couple of points on TAW.
Rodgers shouldnt protect Raheem for problems he's caused for himself. He should play him and make him accountable, then maybe he'll think more about his actions in future.
Also what managers dont talk shit when you analyse what they say to the degree we do, Mourinho, Benitez, Dalglish, Shankly all certainly do/did!
 
Ha, he's the opposite of someone like Joe Allen. I remember saying that I couldn't stay mad at him when he falls over or fucks up.

"I could never stay mad at Joe Allen. He's like your little nephew. Good as gold and then he goes and draws on the wall or puts a ham sandwich in the dvd player. You're a bit mad at him but still love him. "

Or Charlie Austin....when he was being interviewed recently the interviewer was trying to goad him into some sort of "want away" rant by telling him that QPR have slapped a £20m price tag on him. Like a proper pro should, he replied that he was a QPR player and it was their perogative and it wouldn't bother him in the slightest if he was still with QPR playing in the Championship next season.
 
Oh, Arsene, mate - the next time you want the whole football world to stand by your side to denounce Barca or the mancs for tapping one of your players up - don't hold your breath, okay?

He just has to wait another year when there will be just 2 years left on Oxlaide-Chamberlain's contract. Then he'll have his turn with Ward's package.
 
Two things:

1 - he's had plenty of time to get this contract negotiated. And now look at it.
2 - he has to bear some responsibility for what his players are doing. They clearly have fucking zero respect for him if they're prepared to carry on like this.



This may be harsh and lacking in nuance. The club is thought to have made a massively increased offer. The kid refused. The club refused to negotiate. Would you rather we bend, and then suffer the increased wages of every player across the board? If you want that, that you want a Petro-dollar owner (not at current prices). We are a big club, but we don't have the resources to kill this kind of thing off with $.

That being said, Ayre is far too down to earth for that position. On the one hand I like it. On the other hand, if he was a little more authoritative, maybe this kind of thing would develop. They really need to put Sterling in his place now, and not reward this kind of behavior.
 
He's pretty unique in that I don't remember the last time a 20 year old footballer not only rejected a 100k per week offer, but went ahead and had a public interview about it, while his agent kicks up a fuss in the press, completely disrespecting the club that pays his wages.
I doubt Pogba was offered as much money when he left the Mancs.

Yup, completely spot on.
 
[article=http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/liverpool/11623307/Liverpool-are-stuck-in-the-past-and-in-danger-of-becoming-a-provincial-club.html]Liverpool are stuck in the past and in danger of becoming a provincial club

It is no surprise Raheem Sterling wants bigger and better things elsewhere - a proud club is failing to think beyond the confines of its city.

By Gary Neville

Raheem Sterling has been in the eye of a storm this week following the revelation that he wants to leave Liverpool, but while there is a lot to be said about the way the story has developed, the harsh reality for the club is that this situation has been 15 years in the making.

When it comes to representing young players, the onus should be on protecting and supporting them; maintain your dignity and keep out of the headlines.

But has Raheem Sterling really let Liverpool down by suggesting he wants to leave or is he just a kid who wants to play football and win trophies?

There is a wider context to this story and it centres on how Liverpool have gone from being from one Europe’s great superpowers to one which is in danger of becoming a provincial club.

The prospect of losing Sterling will be a major concern for everybody connected to the club, but the uncomfortable truth is that this is nothing new for Liverpool.

Just look back over the past 10-15 years and count the number of players who have left Anfield to pursue bigger and better things elsewhere.

Steve McManaman, Michael Owen, Javier Mascherano, Xabi Alonso, Fernando Torres and Luis Suarez have all gone.

Steven Gerrard is also being allowed to leave and, although his circumstances are different, there is no way in a million years that Liverpool should be allowing him to pack up and sign for LA Galaxy.

If you compare Liverpool to Manchester United over the same period of time, I can think of only one player - Cristiano Ronaldo - who left when he wanted to go, rather than when Sir Alex Ferguson wanted it to happen.

The comparison with United is valid because, regardless of the recent successes of Chelsea, Arsenal and Manchester City, English football’s biggest, most historic, successful and best supported clubs are Liverpool and Manchester United.

If you travel to Ireland, Scandinavia, Malta, Thailand or wherever, the red shirts of Liverpool and United vastly outnumber those of every other club.

But while United have been happy to shout from the rooftops about how big they are and promote the legend and mythology of the club on a global scale for years Liverpool seem to have been stuck in their own mud.

Liverpool have begun to realise the commercial value of their brand on a worldwide basis, but they are years behind the biggest European clubs and, for me, their problems - which have been given a public face this week by the Sterling situation - are a direct result of that failure to think beyond the confines of their city.

Let me give you an example which highlights the difference between Liverpool and Manchester.

When Gerrard was preparing for his final game at Anfield last week, Jamie Carragher told me that whenever Steven goes out in Liverpool he simply cannot escape the attention or go about his business without being aware of the suffocating pressure that comes with being a Liverpool player in the city.

I spent almost 20 years playing for United and, like the rest of my team-mates at Old Trafford, could walk through Manchester quite easily without feeling as though I was living in a goldfish bowl.

I can’t think of any United or City players who would socialise or go for a meal in Liverpool, but I know of several Liverpool or Everton players who do exactly that in Manchester.

Liverpool has an incredibly community-minded mentality and in many ways that spirit, pride, passion and togetherness is one of the city's great strengths.

I joked with Jamie last Monday that, if Andy Burnham ends up as Labour leader and then Prime Minister, Jamie would be announced as Defence Minister, Kenny Dalglish Scottish Secretary, Ian Rush in charge of Wales, HS2 going direct to Liverpool, and the Trident nuclear deterrent protecting that city only.

It was a back-handed compliment about the unity of the city and how Liverpudlians will always defend themselves and fight passionately for their beliefs.

It is a very emotional city and, again, in many ways this is a strength, but for Liverpool Football Club, all of those qualities have become weaknesses which have contributed to the position they now find themselves in with Sterling.

Take Anfield for example.

It is a wonderful old stadium, with a fantastic history and atmosphere, but when I drive towards it through the narrow streets which surround it, you just feel that it is in the wrong location and that it is another symbol of Liverpool looking to the past rather than the future.

I have lost count of the times Liverpool have unveiled plans for a new stadium at Stanley Park, only to end up staying at Anfield because of the history of the place and the fervour of the Kop. In the early 90s when United made their move, Liverpool should have been on their coat tails.

But Anfield has held them back because every other big club - with the exception of Chelsea, who are owned by a Russian billionaire - has moved forward already, either by vastly increasing their current stadium or building a new one.

The emotional ties are given too much weight - that emotion played its part in the performance that led to Crystal Palace winning at Anfield in Gerrard’s farewell game last Saturday - and they are not helping Liverpool.

Arsenal left Highbury, another famous, traditional old ground, to move into the 21st century at the Emirates, City left Maine Road for the Etihad and, in Europe, the clubs who jostled for European Cups with Liverpool in the 1980s and beyond have all put the past behind them and moved on.

Bayern Munich have a new stadium, Ajax have a new stadium, Juventus have a new stadium, while United, Real Madrid and Barcelona are playing in huge arenas which have moved with the times. With five European Cups it is these clubs that Liverpool should be neck and neck with.

Only now are Liverpool increasing the size of Anfield, but will it enable them to close the gap enough for them to compete with the top clubs and prevent players like Sterling wanting to leave?

Liverpool need a visionary with the ambition to take the club into the 21st century. They even decide transfers by Committee. How can that be an efficient, clean process with clear accountability?

Great football clubs like Liverpool will never go away, but they need to find a way to arrest the slide and make themselves a team that players want to play for rather than one they try to leave in search of bigger things elsewhere.

If Sterling leaves, then that will be another star player who has decided that Liverpool is a club that is unable to match their ambitions.

I might be the last person that Liverpool fans want to hear this from, an outsider who played for their biggest rivals, but these are things that need saying.

Despite my United past, I have enormous respect and admiration for Liverpool Football Club, but it is time to put the past aside.

If they can get it right and look beyond the confines and restrictions that lie within their own city, Liverpool can remain one of the world's most successful football clubs and Sterling and the others that have wanted to leave would be banging on the door to sign for them. [/article]
 
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