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Spartak Moscow v Liverpool Match Thread CHAMPIONS LEAGUE

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studge is so fucking finished.
bobby has been so poor since he missed the peno.
let solanke play against newcastle.

How can he look so sharp against Leicester and look so sluggish against these guys. It has only been 3 days. How does Klopp even use him?

It's baffling.
 
Oh dear. A draw again. We dominated that, but yet again, the lack of a decent striker has cost us, although the lack of a decent keeper was more damaging.

Moreno, Henderson and Coutinho were excellent, TAA also played well.

Karius, Can and the Flabby Melt were fucking disgusting.

There's no way Firmino can start the next game, he's been shit for weeks.
 
What a frustrating game.
Another day we win that about 8-1

Finishing was really poor. Mane, Salah, Firmino and Sturridge all missed a minimum ONE sitter each.

Such a pity about the stupid mistake at the back and the fucking joke comedy keeper we have or we win 1-0 anyway.

Who will win the crap back 5 lottery for the weekend?
Mignolet, Gomez, Klavan, Matip, Robertson?!
Who knows. In Klopp world this is how you build a strong foundation.
 
thoughts:
1) Moscow were missing 7 first teamers. That says about about our quality today.
2) ref was terrible with the injuries - get players off the pitch. He also missed a blatant penalty.
3) Firmino has not been the same since he missed the penalty. Give Solanke a proper go.
4) Studge is a selfish fuck, who seems to also be lacking in confidence big time. Conclusion? Same as 3
5) Why do we take Mane off? WHY!?!?!? What a stupid pathetic substitution.
6) Can was the reason for their goal - fucking cunt. GET RID OF THE BALL.
7) Karius - seriously? You want to play for Liverpool and you let that in? Probably lost your teammates with that goal - the faces on Salah, hendo and Bobby said it all. Cocky, arrogant fuck - good bye.
8) Embarrassing result - even worse than the Man City one for me.
 
Oh dear. A draw again. We dominated that, but yet again, the lack of a decent striker has cost us, although the lack of a decent keeper was more damaging.

Moreno, Henderson and Coutinho were excellent, TAA also played well.

Karius, Can and the Flabby Melt were fucking disgusting.

There's no way Firmino can start the next game, he's been shit for weeks.

Come on. You have to include Sturridge on your shit list. He was really poor and did nothing right.
 
Sturridge was terrible. It's bad enough with all the time wasting and we had to bring on someone who looks like he's moving in quicksand.
 
I have to say I don't think we have ever had a worse manager at making impactful substitutions.

Does he EVER positively impact a game? From the minute he makes a change we always look worse.
 
Klopp has GOT TO fucking understand that if Bobby is struggling as a STRIKER, he'll be even WORSE as a LW to accommodate Studge. WHAT IS THE FUCKING POINT? I mean, wake the fuck up.

And please, if Coutinho is on the pitch, GET MORENO away from the FK area.
 
Oh dear. A draw again. We dominated that, but yet again, the lack of a decent striker has cost us, although the lack of a decent keeper was more damaging.

Moreno, Henderson and Coutinho were excellent, TAA also played well.

Karius, Can and the Flabby Melt were fucking disgusting.

There's no way Firmino can start the next game, he's been shit for weeks.

Firmino off for? If it is Solanke I can fathom not for Sturridge the slow fuck.
 
What a frustrating game.
Another day we win that about 8-1

Finishing was really poor. Mane, Salah, Firmino and Sturridge all missed a minimum ONE sitter each.

Such a pity about the stupid mistake at the back and the fucking joke comedy keeper we have or we win 1-0 anyway.

Who will win the crap back 5 lottery for the weekend?
Mignolet, Gomez, Klavan, Matip, Robertson?!
Who knows. In Klopp world this is how you build a strong foundation.

I've been saying for a while, it's not just the defence that's the problem. The profligacy of our attackers is criminal. I really wonder if it's partly psychological - we've got so many options, none of them feel they HAVE to score, someone else will sort it out, so they can try a shot without TOO much precision, they can try something fancy, etc etc. Each one needs to feel THEY are the key goalscorer. And when you add to that the stupid exhibition flicks from Can when a simple short pass would find a teammate - christ! We must start converting our chances.
 
We drew (lost) this game because a shite keeper and some utterly shite finishing.

I really don't want to see Karius continue in goal. I see what Klopp was trying to do, but it's not working. He's cost us again.

As for the forwards. They were all tremendously wasteful again. Mane/Salah at least played well enough. Firmino was very poor and Studge was equally shite when he came on.

A really frustrating game. We are making a real meal of this easy group. At this rate, we'll scrape through 2nd in the final game (whilst of Prem League rivals are resting players in Matchday 5 and 6) and we'll be drawn against Real Madrid where we'll get humiliated.
 
It's now likely the team who scores most against the lowest team will win the group, so we have to start being clinical in front of goal. All of our attackers are playing as if they're not the ones expected to contribute the goals.
 
I have to say I don't think we have ever had a worse manager at making impactful substitutions.

Does he EVER positively impact a game? From the minute he makes a change we always look worse.

It was crying out for some pace at the dying stages. They were dropping like flies. Where was the 35m man? And Solanke?

Gini did nothing, he came on for 25mins and barely wants to break into a run.

Sturridge was so shit.

Lallana couldn't be back soon enough.
 
The look on the player’s faces when Karius conceded that goal reminded me of how my teammates and I felt playing Sunday league and we’d had a goalkeeper playing for us who was fucking obese and couldn’t even dive.
The look of defeat when he’d left a simple goal through. Brought back some horrible, repressed memories.
 
I did not notice Gini after coming on. Mane was sorely missed after going off. Firmino was awful. Sturridge wasn't much better. Karius had one thing to do and was stuck in mud. Salah faded big in the second half.

Disappointing.
 
I've been saying for a while, it's not just the defence that's the problem. The profligacy of our attackers is criminal. I really wonder if it's partly psychological - we've got so many options, none of them feel they HAVE to score, someone else will sort it out, so they can try a shot without TOO much precision, they can try something fancy, etc etc. Each one needs to feel THEY are the key goalscorer. And when you add to that the stupid exhibition flicks from Can when a simple short pass would find a teammate - christ! We must start converting our chances.

I think Brendan tremendously underates Firmino and what he brings to the side. But he right over one thing. The guy really isn't a striker. We all knows he's tasked to drop deep, create space, etc, etc and I don't mind that. But when he's in front of goal, I never have any confidence in him. We need a Harry Kane type forward. A player who will press from the front and do the ugly side of the game, but only needs 1 or 2 (half) chances to score and has unbelievable greed in front of goal.
 
The look on the player’s faces when Karius conceded that goal reminded me of how my teammates and I felt playing Sunday league and we’d had a goalkeeper playing for us who was fucking obese and couldn’t even dive.
The look of defeat when he’d left a simple goal though. Brough back horrible, repressed memories.

Didn't catch the first half but saw the replay. He looks like he was deliberately keeping his hands away from the ball. Deja vu from the freekick he conceded last season.
 
Poor finishing. We could and should have scored at least two goals in the time the ref added. Two lost points. Again..

Karius is shit. One single test and he failed. Again.

Sturridge is finished. I wrote on the other thread that he's not the player he was, and probably will never be. He looks useless. I didn't think he had a good game against Leicester either. I'd play Solanke head of him.
And taking Mane off for Sturridge was bizzare.
 
Karius reminds me of Joe Hart. More concerned about his hair than actually being a goalkeeper and saving shots. He comes across as a pretty cocky guy who overrates his own ability.
 
And on the subject of poor refereeing - bloody hell! What the feck was he up to? Blowing when a player goes down with CRAMP??? Drag the twat off the damned pitch!​
 
And he didn't. The ref was complicit in some serious time wasting today.

He has to remember that cramp is not an injury. All of them had to be wrapped in ice packs before they were removed. Each one of them took at least 3 mins. Then we had give them more time for their substitutes to get ready like they have just gotten up from bed.

It's ridiculous.
 
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