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Ronaldo = a massive ego, a chip on the shoulder, an entitled, self-serving, narcissist with all the charm of a smeered bright orange dog shit on a pavement.
Ronaldo knocked out of a tournament by saving the last pen for himself and not getting to take it. Priceless.
Ronaldo knocked out of a tournament by saving the last pen for himself and not getting to take it. Priceless.
Alba (Abeloa) & Jontxu (Aonso)
Oh-oh Papa Alonso is gonna be pissed after seing that Spanish flag.
Alba (Abeloa) & Jontxu (Aonso)
Ask doc_brown, he's normally good for shit like that
Spain won on penalties. Why do you want to see it again?
cheers mate. Work got busy so I was fucked anyways. But appreciated none the less!
lol oops. Totally clicked the wrong thread. That happens when your 20 mins into a game looking for a stream lol
Nani said today, "Ronaldo demanded to take the last penalty."
Any more reasons needed for him to be considered a cunt who wants all the attention on himself? and he's their captain!?!?
Any more reasons needed for him to be considered a cunt who wants all the attention on himself? and he's their captain!?!?
Good point, but he wasn't their skipper and best peno taker.
Fabregas admitted to asking to take the last peno for Spain despite being originally being given the number two spot.
I managed (player-manager) a team in Manchester for 3 seasons and we were involved in penalty shoot-outs in all 3 seasons and won them all.
My criteria for choosing the penalty takers was................
Always go first if you win the toss.
Always put your top goalscorer as the 1st penalty taker
Always your best midfielder (playmaker-type) as the 2nd penalty (this player was the regular penalty taker).
Always the player you're least confident about scoring (of the 5) as 3rd.
Always me as the last; I was the oldest, most experienced player and had a decent penalty record.
And, obviously, never force someone to take one.
My criteria for choosing the penalty takers was................
Always go first if you win the toss.
Always put your top goalscorer as the 1st penalty taker
Always your best midfielder (playmaker-type) as the 2nd penalty (this player was the regular penalty taker).
Always the player you're least confident about scoring (of the 5) as 3rd.
Always me as the last; I was the oldest, most experienced player and had a decent penalty record.
And, obviously, never force someone to take one.
Top goalscorer? Best midfielder? Player you're least confident about? Too complicated, lad.
1. Your best penalty taker
2. Your 2nd best penalty taker
3. Your 3rd best penalty taker
4. Your 4th best penalty taker
5. Your 5th best penalty taker
That's how you fucking do it.
1. Your best penalty taker
2. Your 2nd best penalty taker
3. Your 3rd best penalty taker
4. Your 4th best penalty taker
5. Your 5th best penalty taker
That's how you fucking do it.
The truth is that whatever order you put them your goalkeeper is the most important player BUT I wouldn't want my 4th and 5th "best" penalty takers taking the 4th and 5th kicks because they're usually the 2 most pivotal.
You need to get off to a good start so you need to "top load" the order i.e. best 2 first but after that you need to figure out the weakest of the 5 and get them to take the 3rd kick.
What is there not to make sense of?
It seems pretty much common sense to me
I can understand the logic of using your five best penalty takers in an order that would maximise your team's chances of progressing.
Your fifth best option might stand a better chance at converting his chance taking the third one and so on.
It's all hypothetical really and hard to say what is the best approach as both have their merits.
Oleksandr Sereda @sereda_alex
Cristiano Ronaldo missed his team's flight from Donetsk to Lisbon after going to the airport cafe to buy a bread roll
Retweeted by Tony Barrett
Cristiano Ronaldo missed his team's flight from Donetsk to Lisbon after going to the airport cafe to buy a bread roll
Retweeted by Tony Barrett
He wanted to be the last one on the plane to get the glory of being the first one off, should've learned already that tactic doesn't work.
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for some reason i was always under the belief that the 4th penalty taker is the most important although obviously it is always important to get off to a good start. And penalties are as much about bottle and composer as skill and ability .
Anyway can we really criticise ? we kept gerrard as number 5 in istanbul and he never got to take his , thankfully for the right reason though.
Anyway can we really criticise ? we kept gerrard as number 5 in istanbul and he never got to take his , thankfully for the right reason though.
Are we forgetting that a certain captain of ours would have been a shoe in to take the fifth penalty in Istanbul but we didnt make it to the 5th. Its all well and good when you win but people with agendas against certain players sure know how to milk it when theres a loss involved.
Yeah, but Rafa picked the order. If the players had their way Garcia and Carra* would have been taking the penalties (I'm not saying that's a bad thing, but I'd have been terrified seeing either of them step up).
*I'm also making an assumption about Carra based on the fact that he always seems willing to step up and hit a penalty.
Fair enough with Rafa picking but does it really matter who takes the first or last though. If it wasnt Ronaldo there wouldnt be a big deal made out of it. Alonso took Spains first the other night as their main penalty taker and missed, had they lost and Ronaldo scored the winner it would be a different story. Shevchenko missing as 5th taker in Istanbul was milans main penalty taker was the reason we won. I find it very harsh that people are criticising him over what position he was in to take a penalty when it really is a lottery. If it was Messi for Argentina people would say its because he's brilliant or something 😎
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and what if it had of got to the 5th and say Bruno Alves was stepping up to win it. People would have been shouting that ronaldo should be taking it . It then would have been the most important penalty .
i guess the problem is more that people believe , and probably rightly so , that he wanted the 5th for the potential glory.
i guess the problem is more that people believe , and probably rightly so , that he wanted the 5th for the potential glory.
The way I see it, is that anyone who insists on taking the 5th penalty is only doing it so they can be seen as the hero.
Utilising your best penalty takers early on in the shootout maximises your chances of keeping pressure on the other team. I thought this was common sense. Fuck playing the hero. Fuck mind games. There's no place for any of that in a penalty shootout.
EDIT: RedZeppelin summed up my point with his last sentence.
Utilising your best penalty takers early on in the shootout maximises your chances of keeping pressure on the other team. I thought this was common sense. Fuck playing the hero. Fuck mind games. There's no place for any of that in a penalty shootout.
EDIT: RedZeppelin summed up my point with his last sentence.
This is ridiculous. There's an almost equal chance that the 3rd, 4th or 5th penalty would be the last penalty so I don't see why there is any glory in being 5th.
ALL the penalties are equally important. If anything being last minimizes your chances. He was asked to take one and he said "I'll do the 5th". Maybe he thought Nani was better so he should go 3rd. Maybe he's afraid of being first. People are reading too much into this.
ALL the penalties are equally important. If anything being last minimizes your chances. He was asked to take one and he said "I'll do the 5th". Maybe he thought Nani was better so he should go 3rd. Maybe he's afraid of being first. People are reading too much into this.
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