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South Africa vs Australia

Out of curiosity? Who will Captain your side?

Mine will have Waugh strutting his stuff...The most Aggressive Captain in Cricket with a line up involving Sehwag and Gilly...
 
Ryan..What you think of this Faulkner fella? Can he become Australia's allrounder? Caught a bit of him in big bash.....seems like he can do stuff.
 
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Out of curiosity? Who will Captain your side?

Mine will have Waugh strutting his stuff...The most Aggressive Captain in Cricket with a line up involving Sehwag and Gilly...
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I'll have the worlds best ever captain who never was...........Warne!
 
So Rafa....how would your current - future stars line up look?

You can count all players below 26. I say 26, so you can include Cook.
 
Here is mine anyway...list has too many Asians because Australia, South Africa and England traditionally don't back youngsters early into the international side.

Warner (i know it's just one Test...but he is the future Sehwag!!!)
Cook (Well the numbers speak. But i don't like his style of play at all...)
Darren Bravo (He just doesn't resemble Lara with his playing style, his record, so far, mirrors that of the Prince as well)
Virat Kohli (I'm going by his ODI record, as he is yet to make a mark in Test cricket, but we will most definitely see a lot more of him. I would have had Rohit Sharma ahead of him, but he has played even less cricket than Kohli)
Umar Akmal (I'm loathe to pick a Pakistani as you never know when their career will melt, but this one has serious talent)
Angelo Mathews (The only bright spot for Sri Lankan cricket in the recent years)
Kaushal Silva (WK) (Well there is no one else younger than him as far as i know, unless we trawl first class cricket....It's between him and Parthiv Patel...and Patel is a terrible keeper)
R Ashwin (He could well go the way of Mendis. But 3 5-fors and a century in the debut Test series means, he is quite the talent. He has proved himself in limited overs cricket as well)
Vernon Philander (He is a genius. The way he can move the ball in or out at will is amazing.)
Pat Cummins (Boy wonder...will he live up to potential? I don't know....but i like what i have seen so far, and i can say the same about Umesh Yadav as well.)
Kemar Roach (I have seen lots and lots of potential. He created Ponting's weakness against Short deliveries...the Poms merely exploited it.)
 
Cook - I don't like his style either, hes pretty boring to watch yet like you say his numbers really stack up.
Warner - Still not convinced but he seems to be one of the best young openers to be coming through.
D Bravo - This lad is the real deal. When you watch him bat you can see that he has Lara's blood running through his veins.
Umar Akmal - Has all the talent in the world, i just hope he makes more use of it than his brother did/does.
Jadeja - Strange pick you might say, but nearly everytime i've seen him play i've liked what i've seen.
Kieswetter - Real lack of WK's coming through, so in by default.
Ashwin - Early days but for me he looks like the next indian star. Genuine allrounder?
Broad - Probably already proven himself to be a top player, just needs to get his bowling average down now.
Amir - Should be back at the ripe old age of 24. Best lefty i've seen since Wasim.
Cummins - I can only go on the handful of games i've seen him play in, but he looks a handful.
Finn - He's added a couple of yards of pace and was clocking 94mph+ in recent outings. M Holding rates him very highly so thats good enough for me.

12th man Roach - Yeah he burst on the scene and another bowler who can clock 90mph+, but hasn't come on as quickly as i thought he would. Still has loads of time on his side though.


Whilst thinking about this i've noticed how many top notch young quicks seem to be coming through (i see you have a couple of prospects as well). When you look at our batting lists though there seems to be a lack of real class in this area. I'd probably rate Bravo and Akmal as the 2 best at present.
 
I'm still waiting to see how Philander goes when he plays on a flat track. I could well be wrong but i think his stats are flattering him at the moment.
 
Thinking about it again...i'd include Amir in place of Roach as well....I really love left arm quick bowlers, cuz i'm a lefty myself. Probably why i love Johnson too, but Khan is undoubtedly the best around at this minute.

India has got plenty of batting talent coming through. It's really sad that they wasted all this time backing Raina and Yuvraj for that number 6 spot Ganguly vacated. Those two guys averages less than 45 in first class Cricket. It should come as no surprise that they couldn't make it in Test cricket.

The fight should have been between Pujara, Rohit and Kohli. This should have happened after 2010. Rohit and Kohli have both shown well in the tour game so far. It will be a little harsh on Rohit to leave him out after his performances in the tour games, but he will probably sit out as Kohli is the incumbent and hasn't given any reason to be dropped.
 
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I'm still waiting to see how Philander goes when he plays on a flat track. I could well be wrong but i think his stats are flattering him at the moment.
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If i were to believe Pollock...he can bat a bit too.

Oh...btw...Pollock is the best commentator i have listened to in the last 10 years or so.
 
1st Test: Australia thrash India by 122 runs

Melbourne: The much-fancied Indian batting was ripped apart by a rampaging Australian pace attack as the visitors were comprehensively beaten in the first Test by 122 runs to go down 1-0 on Thursday.

Chasing a competitive total of 292, the Indian batting collapsed for the second time in the Test, bundled out for a mere 169. Barring Sachin Tendulkar (32), who looked in his elements even in the second innings, none of the batsmen showed the stomach for a fight.

The Indian slide in the second innings, which started from the unwarranted slash from Virender Sehwag (7) just ten minutes before the lunch interval, finished with a heave by Umesh Yadav, who was caught brilliantly by David Warner at the long-on fence for 21. The visitors' middle order - VVS Laxman (1), Virat Kohli (0) and MS Dhoni (23) - once again failed to make any contribution.

Though the visitors would be infuriated by their batsmen's performance, they can take a lot of heart from the way their fast bowlers faired throughout the match. There were clouds over the fitness of Zaheer Khan and Ishant Sharma before the start of the match, but while the former gave the team important breakthroughs, the latter bowled with seething pace. Yadav was the pick of the Indian pacers, troubling the opposition batsmen with his pace and swing.

Australia, who were down and out at the end of second day, showed intensity and won the little battles which proved decisive in the context of the game. Ricky Ponting and Mike Hussey silenced their critics, who were gunning for their heads before the match, with useful knocks. While Ponting hit two half-centuries (62 and 60), Hussey made his second innings count with a magnificent 89. The 115-run stand shared by the two seasoned pros, when the team was tottering at 27 for 4 in the second innings, could well be the match-turning moment from an Australian point of view.

After putting some valuable contributions lower down the order, the Australian pacers didn't give the Indians an inch as they bowled with a lot of fire. While James Pattinson was adjudged Man of the Match for his match figures of 6 for 108, Ben Hilfenfaus made an impressive comeback to the side by claiming his maiden five-for in India's first innings. Peter Siddle too piled up the pressure and collected six wickets in the match.

Earlier, India, who had gone on day four thinking to take the remaining two Australian wickets, paid the price of their lack of intensity as Australia collected 74 runs for the last two wickets.

India struck with Zaheer as Hussey walked back for 89. The left-arm pacer squared him up to find the edge that was taken by Dhoni. Ishant finished the Australian innings with the wicket of Hilfenhaus, who was caught in the slips by Laxman.

India, in reply, got off to a terrible start as they lost the wicket of Sehwag, who once again fell prey to a well-set plan of enticing him outside the off stump. The dashing opener slashed a short ball, getting caught at gully by Hussey.

Having given Australia an upstart on the fourth morning of first Test, India went into lunch at 24 for 1, needing another 268 runs to win. Gautam Gambhir's poor run continued as the southpaw couldn't decide weather to leave or play a perfect outswinger from Siddle and ended up thick-edging it to Ponting in the slips. It was the start of yet another Indian collapse as Australia ran through the Indian middle order. Dravid, Laxman and Kohli departed in quick succession.

A real gem of a delivery by Pattinson, which moved in late, cannoned into the stumps of Rahul Dravid. Laxman was victim to his favourite flick, which went straight to square leg off Pattinson, while Kohli was plumb in front off the bowling of Hilfenhaus. India had gone from 39 for 2 to a disastrous 69 for 5.

India's last hope too vanished when Tendulkar couldn't resist the temptation of driving outside the off stump, caught by Hussey, his second catch in the gully region, off Siddle.

R Ashwin took his chances and got a few streaky boundaries, but he failed to keep Siddle's bouncer, aimed at his ribs, down and it lobbed up for a simple catch to the short-leg fielder Ed Cowan. After hitting a boundary and a massive six to Pattinson, Zaheer backed a little too much to a well-pitched delivery, getting a thick inside edge onto his pads to short-leg. Yadav swatted a few boundaries in the end but he was the last man to perish for India.
 
Same old story. The batting has not clicked collectively for India for a while now. Hopefully it will change. There is still plenty of time in this series.
 
I don't get the SA cricket board. The team needs to be revamped - there's really good talent coming up, and we keep on ignoring them for Prince, Boucher (for how much longer?) ...

An embarrassing loss yesterday to SL.
 
I thought you were going to win when the Aussies were 8 down in the second innings mate. Looking on the positive side, at least your new look bowling attack looked pretty useful.

I see Sri Lanka won for the first time ever on SA soil (yet another top class debut from a young quick).
 
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I don't get the SA cricket board. The team needs to be revamped - there's really good talent coming up, and we keep on ignoring them for Prince, Boucher (for how much longer?) ...

An embarrassing loss yesterday to SL.
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I heard that AB is being lined up to keep wicket in the final test. Seems that you have a good crop of young quicks to call upon, but maybe you're still missing one or 2 good young batsman.

I really hope you keep faith with Tahir, he's not showed his true class yet.
 
I think Prince is 32 ... and to be honest, he's only in the squad b/c of his skin color. He's not in there by merit imo. This has happened in rugby too ... but it's part and parcel of the new South Africa.

South Africa debuted a new pace bowler too (den Lange I think) - and he had a great debut too.

I think it's SL's first win on foreign soil ...

They need to drop Boucher and Prince, get two of their young 'future stars' in there, and let them learn ... build the team like the Australians, etc are all trying to do.
 
I'm having serious doubt about Fletcher's management team.

Since he took over, they have on 1-0 in west indies and won in India. He ain't really a good coach, is he? One of the biggest problem is that India have struggled to take tailenders out of the game against all three opponents they have played against this year. Against W.I, England and now Australia. I would lay the blame for that squarely on the coaching team and lack of proper tactics.

Anyhoo....i haven't been able to follow any sport over the last week...just been keeping tabs on the score. It's going to be so for two more weeks....just on and off. Hope i come back to find some good results for India and Liverpool..
 
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I don't get the SA cricket board. The team needs to be revamped - there's really good talent coming up, and we keep on ignoring them for Prince, Boucher (for how much longer?) ...

An embarrassing loss yesterday to SL.
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I heard that AB is being lined up to keep wicket in the final test. Seems that you have a good crop of young quicks to call upon, but maybe you're still missing one or 2 good young batsman.

I really hope you keep faith with Tahir, he's not showed his true class yet.
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I hope they do that re: AB. Boucher has been a tremendous pro for a while now - but his time is up.

As for young batsmen - David Miller had a good ODI and 20/20 debut earlier this year. He's 21. He's the only one I really know of but there's gotta be more.
 
India getting smashed again. There is better bowling line ups in county cricket. Truely woeful.
 
Jacques Kallis with a nice ton on his 150th test ... I've really enjoyed watching him bat throughout his illustrious career. We're watching some of the greatest batsmen in the game's history batting ... fun eh? 🙂
 
Kallis is a machine when it comes to getting runs. Glad to see Alviro Petersen score his ton after his spell as captain of Glamorgan.

I think Ponting has probably secured his place in the side for while after his last 3 innings. So whats going wrong for India then?
 
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