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so its a scrap with Everton for 7th place then...

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*Looks all lost and bemused*

7th?

But Rafa promised us 4th. What is all this 7th nonsense of which you speak?
 
[quote author=Sheik Yerbouti link=topic=39440.msg1074419#msg1074419 date=1269189934]
*Looks all lost and bemused*

7th?

But Rafa promised us 4th. What is all this 7th nonsense of which you speak?
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Given the games in hand the other teams around us have.. they win them so to speak we would be seventh..

Everton also have a game in hand on us... they win that they are 3 points behind us...

Fucking Depressing Season...
 
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[quote author=Sheik Yerbouti link=topic=39440.msg1074419#msg1074419 date=1269189934]
*Looks all lost and bemused*

7th?

But Rafa promised us 4th. What is all this 7th nonsense of which you speak?
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Given the games in hand the other teams around us have.. they win them so to speak we would be seventh..

Everton also have a game in hand on us... they win that they are 3 points behind us...
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He wasnt disagreeing with you; the scenario you're talking about is very possible.
 
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[quote author=Sheik Yerbouti link=topic=39440.msg1074419#msg1074419 date=1269189934]
*Looks all lost and bemused*

7th?

But Rafa promised us 4th. What is all this 7th nonsense of which you speak?
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Given the games in hand the other teams around us have.. they win them so to speak we would be seventh..

Everton also have a game in hand on us... they win that they are 3 points behind us...
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He wasnt disagreeing with you; the scenario you're talking about is very possible.
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But Rafa Promised us Fourth...
 
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is the fair play league still going? we are a really nice team so we are a shoe-in for that.
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lol... Probably not any more the way Torres has been throwing himself about lately.
 
No we can't. The most we can now get is 72 points meaning spurs can afford to lose 2 and draw 1 of their last 7 and still be ahead of us.
It's done. It was done when we shit out to Wigan.
Anyone who thinks we will finish top 4 is a dick.
 
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Does anyone REALLY think it though?

[/quote]Rafa?
 
[quote author=Herr Onceared link=topic=39440.msg1074507#msg1074507 date=1269198354]
No we can't. The most we can now get is 72 points meaning spurs can afford to lose 2 and draw 1 of their last 7 and still be ahead of us.
It's done. It was done when we shit out to Wigan.
Anyone who thinks we will finish top 4 is a dick.


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spurs have still got to play city, utd, arsenal & chelsea. they'll drop points, probably 7 or more, in just those 4 games.

i'm not saying we'll make 4th, but a defeat most of us expected hasn't really changed things massively, as long as we recover our confidence straight away.

do i think we'll do it? well, probably not, but is still think it's a decent chance. put it this way, i'll stick my neck out and say that IF we win our last 7 games, then we'll definitely finish 4th.
 
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[quote author=Herr Onceared link=topic=39440.msg1074507#msg1074507 date=1269198354]
No we can't. The most we can now get is 72 points meaning spurs can afford to lose 2 and draw 1 of their last 7 and still be ahead of us.
It's done. It was done when we shit out to Wigan.
Anyone who thinks we will finish top 4 is a dick.


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spurs have still got to play city, utd, arsenal & chelsea. they'll drop points, probably 7 or more, in just those 4 games.

i'm not saying we'll make 4th, but a defeat most of us expected hasn't really changed things massively, as long as we recover our confidence straight away.

do i think we'll do it? well, probably not, but is still think it's a decent chance. put it this way, i'll stick my neck out and say that IF we win our last 7 games, then we'll definitely finish 4th.
[/quote]I agree. But we won win our last 7 games. We've lost 10 out of 31 there is nothing to suggest that we CAN win 7 in a row. I'm the motherfucking eternal optimist, and I know it's done.
Rafa has taken a team from 4th to 5th (at best) in 5 years.
 
[quote author=Herr Onceared link=topic=39440.msg1074507#msg1074507 date=1269198354]
No we can't. The most we can now get is 72 points meaning spurs can afford to lose 2 and draw 1 of their last 7 and still be ahead of us.
It's done. It was done when we shit out to Wigan.
Anyone who thinks we will finish top 4 is a dick.


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Spurs have 8 games left. They have 55 points currently. To beat 72 points they need 18 more points; therefore they need to win at least 5 of them and draw the rest, or win 6 or better.

Here are their remaining fixtures:

Tottenham v Portsmouth
Sunderland v Tottenham
Tottenham v Arsenal
Tottenham v Chelsea
Man Utd v Tottenham
Tottenham v Bolton
Man City v Tottenham
Burnley v Tottenham

5 or 6 wins out of that lot will be tough. However, I just cannot see us winning all of our games to give them a target of 72 points.
 
Come to think of it, Everton smelling blood as they chase us down for 7th may come in handy as they are away to Man City on Wednesday night this week.

They are also away to Villa on Wednesday 14th April - which is 4 days after Villa's FA Cup Semi-final at Wembley, after which Villa may have an 'overhang' regardless of their result as those games are usually physically tiring. (The semi is against Chelsea, btw).
 
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[quote author=Herr Onceared link=topic=39440.msg1074507#msg1074507 date=1269198354]
No we can't. The most we can now get is 72 points meaning spurs can afford to lose 2 and draw 1 of their last 7 and still be ahead of us.
It's done. It was done when we shit out to Wigan.
Anyone who thinks we will finish top 4 is a dick.


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spurs have still got to play city, utd, arsenal & chelsea. they'll drop points, probably 7 or more, in just those 4 games.

i'm not saying we'll make 4th, but a defeat most of us expected hasn't really changed things massively, as long as we recover our confidence straight away.

do i think we'll do it? well, probably not, but is still think it's a decent chance. put it this way, i'll stick my neck out and say that IF we win our last 7 games, then we'll definitely finish 4th.
[/quote]I agree. But we won win our last 7 games. We've lost 10 out of 31 there is nothing to suggest that we CAN win 7 in a row. I'm the motherfucking eternal optimist, and I know it's done.
Rafa has taken a team from 4th to 5th (at best) in 5 years.

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at least he's improving - at valencia he took a team from 1st to 5th in just a year!
 
I think it will go down to the last two games of the season Chelsea at home for us then hull away all we can do is hope but to be honest it feels like the blind leading the blind LOL
 
Spurs will get lasagne poisoning, Citeh will all get eaten by a flock of parastic seagulls, and everyone at Villa will spontaneously combust, leaving us free to grab 7th.
 
[quote author=themn link=topic=39440.msg1074511#msg1074511 date=1269198678]
I don't.

Life is shit.

Really really fucking shit.
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It's tough times as a Liverpool fan, i'm low.
 
Hoping to scrape 7th. Pathetic.
We can still cling to the vague hope of getting 4th while its mathematically possible but in reality is it really likely at all that we will win all of our games and all the other results will go in our favour? Hardly.
 
There is no evidence, at any point this season, that we will go on any sort of run.

4th was lost a long time ago, we just didn't know it at the time.

It's over.

If it were one team we were competing against for the spot, we might get it, simply because they'd be under immense pressure.
 
the scary thing is man city are going to invest big regardless of whether or not they qualify for CL so it will be harder next season.
 
[quote author=userred1 link=topic=39440.msg1074677#msg1074677 date=1269213525]
so what go an support the scum
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No.

Where do we go from here?
 
The (scarier) thing is that we've got players like Torres and Gerrard who are on wages befitting of a club in the CL (never mind the actual prestige of being in it).. and owners who are running us on the basis of CL footy year in, year out.. eventually, something is going to have to give.

We can't even afford the sack our manager right now. Depressing times.
 
[quote author=userred1 link=topic=39440.msg1074677#msg1074677 date=1269213525]
so what go an support the scum
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Well that's just the sort of thought provoking response we want on here. Thank you.
 
[quote author=ibromurph link=topic=39440.msg1074681#msg1074681 date=1269213789]
The (scarier) thing is that we've got players like Torres and Gerrard who are on wages befitting of a club in the CL (never mind the actual prestige of being in it).. and owners who are running us on the basis of CL footy year in, year out.. eventually, something is going to have to give.

We can't even afford the sack our manager right now. Depressing times.
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leeds springs to mind
 
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[quote author=userred1 link=topic=39440.msg1074677#msg1074677 date=1269213525]
so what go an support the scum
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Well that's just the sort of thought provoking response we want on here. Thank you.
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sorry rafa but we will be allrite no matter what shite is posted on here
 
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