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So has Parry actually gone?

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[quote author=Sheik Yerbouti link=topic=33734.msg874750#msg874750 date=1243263953]
[quote author=rebel23 link=topic=33734.msg874620#msg874620 date=1243253732]
the only good thing he did was sign Benitez.
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....and signing Torres for a steal.
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Wrong! Parry and Rafa were taking it in turns with regards to signing big money players.

Parry signed Keane, Rafa signed Torres.
 
[quote author=the_khl link=topic=33734.msg874871#msg874871 date=1243272329]

You're constructing excuses for Parry claiming that it was not his fault but the sheer ego of Gerrard.
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Yep because Gerrard got a titty lip because his contract wasn't prepared for him the morning after Istanbul.
The fact Gerrard was toying with the idea of joining Chelsea wasn't Parry's doing.
 
[quote author=Rafa4PM link=topic=33734.msg874872#msg874872 date=1243272494]
[quote author=Sheik Yerbouti link=topic=33734.msg874750#msg874750 date=1243263953]
[quote author=rebel23 link=topic=33734.msg874620#msg874620 date=1243253732]
the only good thing he did was sign Benitez.
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....and signing Torres for a steal.
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Wrong! Parry and Rafa were taking it in turns with regards to signing big money players.

Parry signed Keane, Rafa signed Torres.
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Haha. How that fits in nicely with your agenda Rafa.
 
[quote author=Sheik Yerbouti link=topic=33734.msg874877#msg874877 date=1243272855]
[quote author=Rafa4PM link=topic=33734.msg874872#msg874872 date=1243272494]
[quote author=Sheik Yerbouti link=topic=33734.msg874750#msg874750 date=1243263953]
[quote author=rebel23 link=topic=33734.msg874620#msg874620 date=1243253732]
the only good thing he did was sign Benitez.
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....and signing Torres for a steal.
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Wrong! Parry and Rafa were taking it in turns with regards to signing big money players.

Parry signed Keane, Rafa signed Torres.
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Haha. How that fits in nicely with your agenda Rafa.
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Mate i have it on good authority that Parry signed Dossena, JP, Degan and Bellamy too.

Rafa said that they were all shite and he didn't want them near our club, but Parry just ignored him and went ahead with the signings. I suspect that Parry was trying to get him sacked!
 
Something that many at the club are to blame for is the way the post of CEO expanded over time so that Parry was basically searching the globe for new investors, seeking ways to build a new stadium AND doing 'normal' duties as well as a bit of political mischief-making here and there (nothing new about that - it happened in Dalglish's era, if not earlier). That was a workload and set of responsibilities that would have burned out most people, and I think it was evident that Parry did get burnt out a few years ago. It's important someone in that job realises it and does something about it in the best interests of the club, but it's also important the board should have spotted it, too. I think Parry eventually got into the situation where there was so much flooding into his in-tray, barely anything trickled out to his out-tray. It was paralysing. But, one or another, that can't be allowed to go on. It's no good meaning well. You have to be effective. I hope whoever takes over now is given a much more specific brief as to what he or she should do. The tasks need spreading out to other specialists.
 
There's really no big conspiracy against Rafa, RAFA4PM. You seem to think everyone's out to get him.
 
You may joke about that and claim that every shit transfer and delayed contract was because Parry wanted Benitez sacked, but that is precisely what Judge Jules stated a few months back

I know, I know, but it's true, he did.
 
[quote author=Anita link=topic=33734.msg874883#msg874883 date=1243273295]
There's really no big conspiracy against Rafa, RAFA4PM. You seem to think everyone's out to get him.
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He was joking Anita.
 
[quote author=Rafa4PM link=topic=33734.msg874888#msg874888 date=1243273560]
No I'm not.
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Then you're as mad as a box of frogs.
 
[quote author=Rafa4PM link=topic=33734.msg874888#msg874888 date=1243273560]
No I'm not.
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You're not serious,PM.
 
[quote author=Anita link=topic=33734.msg874889#msg874889 date=1243273663]
I realise it was a bit tongue in cheek on this occasion, but it does seem like a general trend.
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I think we have similar issues Anita.
 
[quote author=Sheik Yerbouti link=topic=33734.msg874890#msg874890 date=1243273743]
[quote author=Rafa4PM link=topic=33734.msg874888#msg874888 date=1243273560]
No I'm not.
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Then you're as mad as a box of frogs.
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In that case, yeah ok i was joking.
 
I've not read the whole thread, but I'm guessing it's the usual deal?

We've won a few trophies and signed some good players during Parry's time, but we've also just watched Utd equal our title record this season. And they're closing in on the European one as well. Fail.

We searched for investment for years and years only to end up with two Americans that can't afford us and are unable to give us the main thing we needed investment for - a stadium. Epic Fail.

We have had a barren 20 years and there are very few people that can escape blame for this. Parry isn't the only culprit, but I wouldn't say his time as CEO has been a great success. Would anyone else?
 
[quote author=keniget link=topic=33734.msg874905#msg874905 date=1243275592]
I've not read the whole thread, but I'm guessing it's the usual deal?

We've won a few trophies and signed some good players during Parry's time, but we've also just watched Utd equal our title record this season. And they're closing in on the European one as well. Fail.

We searched for investment for years and years only to end up with two Americans that can't afford us and are unable to give us the main thing we needed investment for - a stadium. Epic Fail.

We have had a barren 20 years and there are very few people that can escape blame for this. Parry isn't the only culprit, but I wouldn't say his time as CEO has been a great success. Would anyone else?[/quote]

To answer that would probably require everyone to repeat what they've already said in the thread, so why not just go back and read it you lazy fecker.
 
[quote author=Brendan link=topic=33734.msg874884#msg874884 date=1243273356]
You may joke about that and claim that every shit transfer and delayed contract was because Parry wanted Benitez sacked, but that is precisely what Judge Jules stated a few months back

I know, I know, but it's true, he did.
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It's not, he didn't.
 
[quote author=Anita link=topic=33734.msg874813#msg874813 date=1243268797]
[quote author=the_khl link=topic=33734.msg874729#msg874729 date=1243260794]
[quote author=gkmacca link=topic=33734.msg874707#msg874707 date=1243259695]
Did Rick convince Gerrard? Who on earth was it who delayed sorting out his contract extension for so long in 2005 that Gerrard felt 'unloved'? Did Parry have no role in that? It seemed like a classic Parry problem - taking the eye off the ball, allowing dangers to develop and then reacting belatedly without much sense of purpose.
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My thoughts as well to be honest.
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The contract was initially delayed, but people seem happy to assume that was down to Parry and Parry alone, there could, and probably were, other factors involved. I know that Gerrard said it was a lengthy late night phone call with Parry that eventually convinced him to stay.

People are just happy to pin everything that goes wrong on Parry, with little or no reason to think it's the case.
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In his autobiography Gerrard admits to turning down contract negotiations 7 times before the occasion that he complained about Parry.

He was made an offer of 90k a week, which he refused. Parry then dithered a bit, this is where the Gerrard complaint comes in, then he subsequently was offered 120k.
 
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[quote author=Anita link=topic=33734.msg874813#msg874813 date=1243268797]
[quote author=the_khl link=topic=33734.msg874729#msg874729 date=1243260794]
[quote author=gkmacca link=topic=33734.msg874707#msg874707 date=1243259695]
Did Rick convince Gerrard? Who on earth was it who delayed sorting out his contract extension for so long in 2005 that Gerrard felt 'unloved'? Did Parry have no role in that? It seemed like a classic Parry problem - taking the eye off the ball, allowing dangers to develop and then reacting belatedly without much sense of purpose.
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My thoughts as well to be honest.
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The contract was initially delayed, but people seem happy to assume that was down to Parry and Parry alone, there could, and probably were, other factors involved. I know that Gerrard said it was a lengthy late night phone call with Parry that eventually convinced him to stay.

People are just happy to pin everything that goes wrong on Parry, with little or no reason to think it's the case.
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In his autobiography Gerrard admits to turnind down contract negotiations 7 times before the occasion that he complained about Parry.

He was made an offer of 90k a week, which he refused. Parry then dithered a bit, this is where the Gerrard complaint comes in, then he subsequently was offered 120k.

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Yeah but it was Parry's fault that he didn't make that initial offer on the third Tuesday of the month which happened to be a full moon while Venus was in alignment with Neptune. Fucking div Parry.
 
But, but Parry *deffo* delayed agger's contract talks, just at the time when Benitez was loudly complaining about the club delaying contract talks with key players.

The reason Parry did this was, er, something about, er, protecting his job...maybe Jules can help, and spare himself the shame of me digging out the thread in which I gleefully eviscerated him
 
Well. I'll be honest and say that Parry wasn't ever spectacular in what he did, but generally did his job, and became the Lucas of the boardroom. Poor The Rick.
 
I was going to let this slide but fuck it

a) liverpool are one of the best supported teams in world football but how much do we make from our global commercial brand?
b) when we won the CL gerrard basically said 'put a contract in front on me and I'll sign' where was the contract? gerrard was practically at chelsea DOOR before he had a change of heart and some people give parry credit for that?
c) how is it that the 2nd best supported team in the league has the THIRD best sponsership deal in the league?
d) parry is supposed to be moores' advisor a cursory glance under google will tell you all you need to know about the yanks, so what was parry's advice?
e) did we cash in in any shape or form whatsoever after winning the CL?
f) why were we bidding on simeo on the final day of the transfer window?
g) after macca was allowed to leave (for fuck all) was it not parry that said (and I qoute) 'no player will be allowed to run down their contract below 2 years'? how's that policy holding up rick?

he was fucking SHIT at his job.
 
[quote author=Sheik Yerbouti link=topic=33734.msg875153#msg875153 date=1243323598]
Feel better now?
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I do actually. I'm back to my timid self again. 🙂
 
Just to pull you up on one point neil, the sponsorship thing.

Spurs deal beats ours, true. However, there's is a one-off deal, & pretty much everyone said afterwards that it was far too high a figure that had been agreed simply to take the attention away from the fact Utd had knocked them back over concerns with gambling & their global brand.

Our deal with Carlsberg has been the longest tie-in in English football history, & I'd be surprised if it wasnt in top level football's history. They paid top whack right through the 90's when we were finishing 7/8th in the league & not winning a fucking thing for years.

I think over Parry's tenure the sponsorship money, like for like against rivals would accurately place us 2nd, & TBH we prob didnt deserve that much at times.
 
[quote author=FoxForceFive link=topic=33734.msg875217#msg875217 date=1243326381]

I think over Parry's tenure the sponsorship money, like for like against rivals would accurately place us 2nd, & TBH we prob didnt deserve that much at times.
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what makes you say that?
 
[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=33734.msg875237#msg875237 date=1243328971]
[quote author=FoxForceFive link=topic=33734.msg875217#msg875217 date=1243326381]

I think over Parry's tenure the sponsorship money, like for like against rivals would accurately place us 2nd, & TBH we prob didnt deserve that much at times.
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what makes you say that?
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Cos although we still had a massive fan base our results were not showing any signs of improvement for 3 seasons straight, during which time we re-negoiated the deal with Carlsberg. Our global fanbase was beginning to be eclipsed as Utd's on the pitch dominance grew yet they stuck with us & offered us a deal that reflected us being the 2nd biggest team in the league, at that we werent & no-one could've known we'd get back to that level (some will argue we still havent).
 
[quote author=FoxForceFive link=topic=33734.msg875242#msg875242 date=1243329286]
[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=33734.msg875237#msg875237 date=1243328971]
[quote author=FoxForceFive link=topic=33734.msg875217#msg875217 date=1243326381]

I think over Parry's tenure the sponsorship money, like for like against rivals would accurately place us 2nd, & TBH we prob didnt deserve that much at times.
[/quote]

what makes you say that?
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Cos although we still had a massive fan base our results were not showing any signs of improvement for 3 seasons straight, during which time we re-negoiated the deal with Carlsberg. Our global fanbase was beginning to be eclipsed as Utd's on the pitch dominance grew yet they stuck with us & offered us a deal that reflected us being the 2nd biggest team in the league, at that we werent & no-one could've known we'd get back to that level (some will argue we still havent).
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we were a gobal brand with worldwide support still in the top 4.
 
Commercially, the only thing the club seems to do right is the website and the magazine. Other than that they're still painfully incompetant. Take the recent announcement that 'official membership packs' had sold out for the entire year. Why? It's not like a finite number of season tickets. It's a shite 'package' of odds and sods, so why not keep it going? Then there's LFCTV - okay, you expect a slow and shaky start, but it's still showing all the imagination of a tapeworm. If you're going to do something like that, do it properly. So Parry is by no means the only culprit. It won't help much simply by replacing him with someone else doing the same too many things not efficiently enough. All of these aspects now need specialist people running them, or at least giving them an expert overhaul, rather than some kind of Victorian-style amateur trying to do a bit of everything. It just doesn't work like that these days.
 
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