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Shame on you for saying that Suarez is better than Barnes

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Modo

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FOR SHAME!!!
 
Like I said, Suarez isn't even close to Barnes.
But Coutinho is well on his way.

...and yes I still believe Barnes is the most skilful player who's ever worn the red shirt.
 
Was that a time of awful defending? The amount of backing off is criminal

Good skills though
 
Was that a time of awful defending? The amount of backing off is criminal

That's what I always think when I see vids from 20+ years ago - imagine what some of the players of today would've done back then (tackles and all). The game has evolved.

Anyways, thanks for posting the vid Modo. I don't think many of us have seen Barnes play before so that's been really useful in trying to make the comparison.
 
Barnes was overall better than Suarez is now. Perhaps over the course of a career Suarez will shade him just, but he hasn't at this stage imo.

Suarez is better at the nutmeg though.
 
Like I said, Suarez isn't even close to Barnes.
But Coutinho is well on his way..

Oh bollocks off. Suarez isn't close, yet Coutinho is well on his way? You do come out with some crap at times to promote how much you rate someone. The season Suarez has just had is better than any Barnes ever had, simple.
 
Oh bollocks off. Suarez isn't close, yet Coutinho is well on his way? You do come out with some crap at times to promote how much you rate someone. The season Suarez has just had is better than any Barnes ever had, simple.


You mean it's better than the season when Barnes scored 22 league goals (outscored Rush), we won the league and he became player of year?

WOW.
 
Even if that's right Mystic it is still one Season, and one Season where he also was VERY poor in terms of behavior.

Barnes in his prime was a wonderful footballer in every way, Suarez isn't far off to be honest, but I don't think it's controversial at all to believe Digger is still ahead.

Having said that the Coutinho remark is pretty bold, if not daft. I do hope however Modo is proved right.

For once.

*winks*
 
Even if that's right Mystic it is still one Season, and one Season where he also was VERY poor in terms of behavior.

Barnes in his prime was a wonderful footballer in every way, Suarez isn't far off to be honest, but I don't think it's controversial at all to believe Digger is still ahead.

Having said that the Coutinho remark is pretty bold, if not daft. I do hope however Modo is proved right.

For once.

*winks*


The Coutinho comparison I made is because of his ability to pick a pass just like Barnes used to do. Also Coutinho is a midfielder just like Barnes was.
 
You mean it's better than the season when Barnes scored 22 league goals (outscored Rush), we won the league and he became player of year?

WOW.

Maybe, Barnes was playing in a much better team, and Suarez outscored him and should have been player of the year, despite missing quite a few games. To be honest your Coutinho comment just annoyed me, and just the general tone of the thread.
 
Even if that's right Mystic it is still one Season, and one Season where he also was VERY poor in terms of behavior.

Barnes in his prime was a wonderful footballer in every way, Suarez isn't far off to be honest, but I don't think it's controversial at all to believe Digger is still ahead.

Having said that the Coutinho remark is pretty bold, if not daft. I do hope however Modo is proved right.

For once.

*winks*

Completely agree, Suarez will have to have another couple of seasons like it before you can truly say he's better. Just this thread suggests it's ridiculous to even have the thought, when it most definitely isn't.
 
Maybe, Barnes was playing in a much better team, and Suarez outscored him and should have been player of the year, despite missing quite a few games. To be honest your Coutinho comment just annoyed me, and just the general tone of the thread.


So what if he played in a better team, look at the goals he scored. Look at the position he was playing in. Some say that Suarez creates his own chances, so did Barnes.

Saying that Suarez is better than Barnes is borderline lunacy.
 
Who fucking cares. Honestly.
You cant be right or wrong, so who gives a shit.
Its like asking someone if they prefer pizza or fish and chips and then giving them shit for preferring chips.
Its retarded.
Barnes is a hero. Suarez is class.
I couldnt care less who thinks who is better.
 
Maybe, Barnes was playing in a much better team, and Suarez outscored him and should have been player of the year, despite missing quite a few games. To be honest your Coutinho comment just annoyed me, and just the general tone of the thread.


Why does it rile you up that I think that Coutinho has the potential to be just as good as Barnes?
 
So what if he played in a better team, look at the goals he scored. Look at the position he was playing in. Some say that Suarez creates his own chances, so did Barnes.

Saying that Suarez is better than Barnes is borderline lunacy.
Why do you have to be such a dick.
It isnt lunacy at all. I watched John Barnes play every week, and he was unbelievable.
So is Suarez. People can think either is better, there isnt a right.
So stop being a fucking cock, ESPECIALLY when you just referenced a player who has had about 8 good games for us.
 
So what if he played in a better team, look at the goals he scored. Look at the position he was playing in. Some say that Suarez creates his own chances, so did Barnes.

Saying that Suarez is better than Barnes is borderline lunacy.

You're really taking Suarez leaving badly aren't you?
 
Why do you have to be such a dick.
It isnt lunacy at all. I watched John Barnes play every week, and he was unbelievable.
So is Suarez. People can think either is better, there isnt a right.
So stop being a fucking cock, ESPECIALLY when you just referenced a player who has had about 8 good games for us.

Summed up my thoughts perfectly there Herr, thank you. Oh and also theres a slight fear Modo is going to turn Coutinho into a new Alberto.
 
Why do you have to be such a dick.
It isnt lunacy at all. I watched John Barnes play every week, and he was unbelievable.
So is Suarez. People can think either is better, there isnt a right.
So stop being a fucking cock, ESPECIALLY when you just referenced a player who has had about 8 good games for us.

Erm...says the person who calls about everyone a cunt as a term of endearment.


You're really taking Suarez leaving badly aren't you?

No, I really don't. I actually felt worse when Torres left.
Barnes is my favourite player that's all.
 
Erm...says the person who calls about everyone a cunt as a term of endearment.




No, I really don't. I actually felt worse when Torres left.
Barnes is my favourite player that's all.
I dont really understand your point.
You are being an asshole. Which isnt new to you obviously.
'Barnes is my favourite player' 'Its lunacy to prefer another'

Look at what you are saying.
Its like an 8 year old posting.
 
You mean it's better than the season when Barnes scored 22 league goals (outscored Rush), we won the league and he became player of year?

WOW.

He meant personally. And Barnes only ever hit double figures for us for one more season after that. Suarez hit 30 goals and had 11 assists last season, you can't judge him on the success of the side, it's about personal achievement and impact. Given he's playing in a side that's being rebuilt from being a non-European competition team, I'd say that's made it even harder for Suarez to achieve what he has.

And that Coutinho comment is just fucking ridiculous. You're judging a player who's been here 6 months as being "closer to Barnes" than a player who's just had two and a half brilliant seasons for us? His record for us at the moment reads: 96 appearances, 51 goals and 24 assists. That's phenomenal. And Suarez "could" have easily been player of the year, if he hadn't acted like a dickhead, so that point's neither here nor there.

Perhaps it might be more prudent to consider what Luis might have achieved in that 89-90 team.
 
He meant personally. And Barnes only ever hit double figures for us for one more season after that. Suarez hit 30 goals and had 11 assists last season, you can't judge him on the success of the side, it's about personal achievement and impact. Given he's playing in a side that's being rebuilt from being a non-European competition team, I'd say that's made it even harder for Suarez to achieve what he has.

And that Coutinho comment is just fucking ridiculous. You're judging a player who's been here 6 months as being "closer to Barnes" than a player who's just had two and a half brilliant seasons for us? His record for us at the moment reads: 96 appearances, 51 goals and 24 assists. That's phenomenal. And Suarez "could" have easily been player of the year, if he hadn't acted like a dickhead, so that point's neither here nor there either. Perhaps it might be more prudent to consider what Luis might have achieved in that 89-90 team.


What do you mean personally? In that he personally thought that Suarez did better than Barnes did that season? You do know that Barnes scored 28 in total. That's two goals less than Suarez who's a striker. It's shame we don't have any assist stats for Barnes but I'm guessing he got more than 11 assists that season.

I'd take more notice of Suarez goal stat if Barnes was a striker and since I don't have any assist stats for him either, it becomes a question of skill. Like I said before "skill wise" Barnes was better than Suarez. There was just more to his game.

Why do you get caught up on what I said about Coutinho? The lad has potential.
 
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