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SEVEN HUNDRED AND FIFTY MILLION. 7-5-0 million.
Fucks sake.
Are Adidas mental?
That's about what the glaziers paid for the club.
Well that wipes out any minor issue they had financially with them not qualifying for the champions league.
It wont be long before the glaziers have a free club, that they put none of their own money into, that the banks bought for them, and then the club paid the bank.

Based on this mental deal, do Barca/Real/Bayern get 5billion kit deals when they renew seeing as they're not a shower of shit?

http://www1.skysports.com/football/...ague-manchester-united-secure-adidas-kit-deal
 
What do you reckon the glazers are going to do with Manure once they've paid the debt off? Same with the Arse now. If I was sitting on an asset worth close to £1bn I wouldn't just sit on it and take what measly profits a football club turns out with the inflationary cost side of it. I'm probably going to sell it to another leveraged buyout scumbag or refinance it myself and make it pay for itself again.
 
Real and Barca are on about 30mill a year and tied to them until the end of the decade. How on earth do Adidas value them at 3 times the old nike deal and 2-3 times the deals Barca/Real are on.
I think our deal runs until the end of 2015, when I shall expect a 1billion pound deal from adidas.
 
Comical Aly said:
What do you reckon the glazers are going to do with Manure once they've paid the debt off? Same with the Arse now. If I was sitting on an asset worth close to £1bn I wouldn't just sit on it and take what measly profits a football club turns out with the inflationary cost side of it. I'm probably going to sell it to another leveraged buyout scumbag or refinance it myself and make it pay for itself again.
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The revenues are inflationary too, don't forget.

It's just an asset, really. They haven't primarily got hold of the club because of the profits it'll make, but for what they think it might be worth. So what they do with it will depend on what they think's going to happen to the value in the following decade or so.

The £750m kit deal is extraordinary, but the downside is that it's for 10 years, so they're tied in with no chance of capitalising on future market growth. Obviously they have a lot to play with before the deal turns negative, but it is a risk of these things. Arsenal's £100m 10 year deal with Emirates looked amazing at the time, but in hindsight it was a real drain on the club.
 
Smashes the previous record of Arsenals of £150m over 5 years according to the Independent.

Thought ours was £300m over six years?
 
peterhague said:
The revenues are inflationary too, don't forget.

It's just an asset, really. They haven't primarily got hold of the club because of the profits it'll make, but for what they think it might be worth. So what they do with it will depend on what they think's going to happen to the value in the following decade or so.

The £750m kit deal is extraordinary, but the downside is that it's for 10 years, so they're tied in with no chance of capitalising on future market growth. Obviously they have a lot to play with before the deal turns negative, but it is a risk of these things. Arsenal's £100m 10 year deal with Emirates looked amazing at the time, but in hindsight it was a real drain on the club.
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The 750m is the minimum guaranteed amount payable to us. I would imagine they are profit share agreements and such like the previous Nike deal.

From next season with Chevrolet, Adidas and AON we will be getting £140m per season for our kits and training kits.
 
ChastenedMUFC said:
The 750m is the minimum guaranteed amount payable to us. I would imagine they are profit share agreements and such like the previous Nike deal.

From next season with Chevrolet, Adidas and AON we will be getting £140m per season for our kits and training kits.
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Aren't the supplementary fees you mention common to all shirt deals, though?

You need to compare like with like, and unless I know otherwise the headline figures of 75m pa for Utd, 30m for Arsenal, 25m for us, seem perfectly adequate measurements.
 
ChastenedMUFC said:
The 750m is the minimum guaranteed amount payable to us. I would imagine they are profit share agreements and such like the previous Nike deal.

From next season with Chevrolet, Adidas and AON we will be getting £140m per season for our kits and training kits.
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Crazy.. just need a good player to help sell them now.
 
Comical Aly said:
What do you reckon the glazers are going to do with Manure once they've paid the debt off? Same with the Arse now. If I was sitting on an asset worth close to £1bn I wouldn't just sit on it and take what measly profits a football club turns out with the inflationary cost side of it. I'm probably going to sell it to another leveraged buyout scumbag or refinance it myself and make it pay for itself again.
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According to the BBC article net profit was 147m last season. So it could realistically hit 200m with the new tv deals and increased deals such as this.
But we will probably have to spend far more on wages and transfers to get us back to the top.

Paying 750m and getting back 150m per year isn't a bad return.
 
Thing is, Adidas only have Chelsea for the BPL now, and no one likes Chelsea.
After losing us, they needed a new BPL team.

Now Nike only have Man City. They've lost Arsenal to Puma.

And Warrior have us. I wonder if we can start off a bidding war between Nike and Warrior when our current deal runs out.
 
ChastenedMUFC said:
The 750m is the minimum guaranteed amount payable to us. I would imagine they are profit share agreements and such like the previous Nike deal.

From next season with Chevrolet, Adidas and AON we will be getting £140m per season for our kits and training kits.
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For comparison, Standard Chartered, Warrior and Garuda Air are supposed to be paying us £61million a year. £20m + £25m + £16m.
 
peterhague said:
Aren't the supplementary fees you mention common to all shirt deals, though?

You need to compare like with like, and unless I know otherwise the headline figures of 75m pa for Utd, 30m for Arsenal, 25m for us, seem perfectly adequate measurements.
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Yea they are the correct comparisons.

Just making the point that if football revenue continues to increase we should see a boost in those supplementary fees.
 
Adidas we screwing us and now this. Damn, we should take the Scummers negotiation methods on board. Crazy deal. Sounds very suspicious.
 
He does, but why we feel the need to discuss Utds kit deal is beyond me. The Chevrolet Director that signed the sponsor agreement got fired afterwards I think.

Adidas paying 75 mill sounds OTT and you can understand why Nike pulled out.
They know the numbers and what its worth.

Our Warrior agreement is worth close to 50 mill apparantly:

With Warrior, Liverpool will control all non-branded merchandising – products outside the usual kit range – and are free to open club stores wherever they choose. That is not the case under Adidas, who control Liverpool's kit supply and the sale of non-branded merchandise, and the club believe they can double the £25m a year from Warrior when the current restrictions are lifted this summer.
 
You also have to remember that with the previous Nike scum deal, Nike took over all of their club shops and ran them, plus took loyalty payments from every piece of scum merchandise sold. We had a similar issue with Adidas with the exception of they didn't run our club shops. The beauty of the Warrior deal for lfc is that any leisure clothing or anything with the club crest sold through the club, the club gets 100% of the revenue and nothing is distributed to Warrior (unless it's Warrior branded) that's what I remember reading
 
Hansern said:
He does, but why we feel the need to discuss Utds kit deal is beyond me. The Chevrolet Director that signed the sponsor agreement got fired afterwards I think.

Adidas paying 75 mill sounds OTT and you can understand why Nike pulled out.
They know the numbers and what its worth.

Our Warrior agreement is worth close to 50 mill apparantly:

With Warrior, Liverpool will control all non-branded merchandising – products outside the usual kit range – and are free to open club stores wherever they choose. That is not the case under Adidas, who control Liverpool's kit supply and the sale of non-branded merchandise, and the club believe they can double the £25m a year from Warrior when the current restrictions are lifted this summer.
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I must say that since FSG (Henry and Co.) took over the club, financially we've been on a sound footing and the sponsorships keep rolling in. This will continue its upward trajectory and the completion of renovations will boost us further. We're moving rapidly in the right direction and its a long way from the dark days of the Texan Cowboys.
 
Hansern said:
He does, but why we feel the need to discuss Utds kit deal is beyond me. The Chevrolet Director that signed the sponsor agreement got fired afterwards I think.

Adidas paying 75 mill sounds OTT and you can understand why Nike pulled out.
They know the numbers and what its worth.

Our Warrior agreement is worth close to 50 mill apparantly:

With Warrior, Liverpool will control all non-branded merchandising – products outside the usual kit range – and are free to open club stores wherever they choose. That is not the case under Adidas, who control Liverpool's kit supply and the sale of non-branded merchandise, and the club believe they can double the £25m a year from Warrior when the current restrictions are lifted this summer.
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'Believe'.

The deal is worth £25m per year. Nobody's got a clue how else we're exploiting the situation.
 
Hyena said:
Thing is, Adidas only have Chelsea for the BPL now, and no one likes Chelsea.
After losing us, they needed a new BPL team.

Now Nike only have Man City. They've lost Arsenal to Puma.

And Warrior have us. I wonder if we can start off a bidding war between Nike and Warrior when our current deal runs out.
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And now we have a baseline for them.
 
Brizzle said:
He seems decent.
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It's just what I want to read. The opinion of a twat who couldn't find Old Trafford with a fucking Tom Tom pontificating on Liverpool, and seeing a picture of Mata in a scum kit in every thread. Can you even imagine having the time and inclination to go on a rival's website and comment on that club? Sad and strange in equal measure.
 
ChastenedMUFC said:
Not 100% sure but the incentive based income we received from the £25m Nike contract increased year on year whereby we got £12m additional last year.
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What incentives did you meet last year then ? Finish outside of Europe ? Here you go, here's an extra £5 mil. Laughing stock of a manager? Help yourselves, well worth an extra £3 mil lads.
 
personally I like the idea of having fans from other clubs on this site. it makes for better banter.

I (and I know some of the rest of you, don't be shy) do a bit of lurking on redcafe, and they have quite a lot of fans of other clubs posting there.
 
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