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[quote author=Farkmaster link=topic=44800.msg1310358#msg1310358 date=1301985707]
I can't even bring myself to care about this. What a shit season, just a lot of irrelevant shit to talk about now.
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This.

31 games played 45 points and Rooney getting banned would be a little success. Sad
 
[quote author=El Pistolero link=topic=44800.msg1309800#msg1309800 date=1301850784]
I actually think its bloody pathetic the issue being made out of it to be honest. The lad has just scored a hatrick thats probably just sealed the title the adrenalines pumuping and he says fucking. Boo hoo he hasn't killed anyone he has snapped someone in half. People go on about oh but the kids, look worse things go on in the stands every game for the kids to be influenced by.

I do think he is a cunt in general but this come on fucking hell.
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I agree.

Most kids probably know more swear words than most of us.
 
[quote author=FoxForceFive link=topic=44800.msg1310715#msg1310715 date=1302025628]
[quote author=Hansern link=topic=44800.msg1310712#msg1310712 date=1302025317]
He's appealed it. Just watch them making it suspended instead.
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Radio just reported he'd admitted the charge but not the charge. cunt.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/12977589.stm
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But appealed the ban.

Rooney appeals ban
Red Devils contest striker's two-match ban
By Chris Burton. Last Updated: April 5, 2011 6:33pm


Manchester United have confirmed that Wayne Rooney has accepted a Football Association charge, but is to appeal against a two-match ban.

The striker was handed a suspension by the authorities on Monday following a foul-mouthed goal celebration in United's 4-2 victory over West Ham on Saturday.

Rooney swore at a camera after completing his hat-trick at Upton Park, breaching FA regulations.

He has been charged with using offensive, insulting and/or abusive language and banned as a result.

United were given until 6pm on Tuesday to lodge an appeal and have opted to do so.

Apologised
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Rooney, who apologised after the game, accepts that he acted out of line, but feels serving a suspension would be unfair.

Had he accepted the ban, he would have been missing for crucial fixtures against Fulham in the Premier League and Manchester City in the FA Cup semi-finals.

Having decided to challenge the FA's ruling, he now faces the prospect of his punishment being increased.

The FA has confirmed that it received a submission from United and the case will be heard on Wednesday afternoon.

A statement on their official website read: "Rooney has submitted a claim that the automatic penalty of two games is clearly excessive. A commission will hear the submission on Wednesday."
 
[quote author=El Pistolero link=topic=44800.msg1309800#msg1309800 date=1301850784]
I actually think its bloody pathetic the issue being made out of it to be honest. The lad has just scored a hatrick thats probably just sealed the title the adrenalines pumuping and he says fucking. Boo hoo he hasn't killed anyone he has snapped someone in half. People go on about oh but the kids, look worse things go on in the stands every game for the kids to be influenced by.

I do think he is a cunt in general but this come on fucking hell.
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That's not the point though is it? People aren't taking issue with the swearing as an isolated incident, it's because of the shit he gets away with every season. Intimidating refs, swearing constantly at officials, the elbow the other week..... Like his club and his manager, they think they can push things as far as they can. Fergie got a ban but only after bending the rules as far as he could and continuously pushing his luck, up until the point were public and media pressure was too much for the FA not to act. That's the only reason they did. And now this. It's just the same thing. He's pushed the boundaries of sportsmanship and decency on the pitch for years and finally he's got some small punishment, but it's by no means justice for years of abusing the sport and it's governing body and officials.

It's a big deal because of what he's got away with, a culmination of years of acting the twat. And he was wasn't swearing because he was elated, he was swearing because he wanted to give the media and whoever a load of verbal.

"He hasn't snapped anyone in half". No, he just elbowed some poor fucker in the face a few weeks previous though.
 
The FA's decision has been questioned by Professional Footballers' Association chief Gordon Taylor.

In a statement issued on the PFA website, Taylor said: "Whilst the use of foul and abusive language is not condoned, there is an acceptance by all parties within the game that 'industrial language' is commonly used.

"It becomes an issue when directed towards match officials. However, when used in a spontaneous way in celebration or frustration then it is not normally expected to merit a sanction.

"If sanctions are to be imposed in such circumstances then this has to be done in a balanced and consistent manner, and participants made aware of this fundamental change in approach."
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You sir, are a cunt.

He swore directly at the camera, at lunchtime to millions of viewers.

That's BANG OUT OF ORDER. Swearing on the pitch at others is one thing, to swear AT the viewers is quite another & I think a two game ban is exceptionally lenient, & I'd think the same were it Stevie, Reina or any of our players.
 
[quote author=FoxForceFive link=topic=44800.msg1310729#msg1310729 date=1302026835]
The FA's decision has been questioned by Professional Footballers' Association chief Gordon Taylor.

In a statement issued on the PFA website, Taylor said: "Whilst the use of foul and abusive language is not condoned, there is an acceptance by all parties within the game that 'industrial language' is commonly used.

"It becomes an issue when directed towards match officials. However, when used in a spontaneous way in celebration or frustration then it is not normally expected to merit a sanction.

"If sanctions are to be imposed in such circumstances then this has to be done in a balanced and consistent manner, and participants made aware of this fundamental change in approach."
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You sir, are a cunt.

He swore directly at the camera, at lunchtime to millions of viewers.

That's BANG OUT OF ORDER. Swearing on the pitch at others is one thing, to swear AT the viewers is quite another & I think a two game ban is exceptionally lenient, & I'd think the same were it Stevie, Reina or any of our players.
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This..... I'm surprised there is even an argument about it. As for the fella that said '31 games played 45 points and Rooney getting banned would be a little success. Sad'

Er what the fuck you on about lad? Seriously? The guy acted like an utter twat and hopefully will be made an example of. I would be the same if it was some other footballer. As a red it's just funnier that it's Rooney. Ask yourself this though. At the start of the season if you had to pick someone who might swear directly at the viewers through the Sky camera. Who do you think it would be?

Anyway we all know He's gonna get a suspended ban due to his prompt apology.
 
Mark Steel's article about it:

Wayne Rooney seemed like such a polite young man that who would have guessed he'd be the type to use a swear word at a time of high emotion? So naturally for three days the incident dominated the news and the radio phone-ins, and millions of people are apparently shocked because he's a role model, so let's at least hope he doesn't use that sort of language when the prostitutes are round, because goodness knows what they'd think.

Newspapers have been full of columnists writing articles such as "I have many differences with Robert Mugabe, but give him his due, at least he doesn't swear into television cameras." And you expected the news to begin, "Colonel Gaddafi and Nato have agreed to hold a minute's silence before today's battles on the road to Benghazi, in response to what they described as 'the very disturbing images' of the striker's outburst."

Others have seen the incident as a symbol of declining standards. Because although there were no microphones to pick up footballers' comments in the 1950s, we can be certain they spoke at all times in a Pathé News accent. So even when they went out at night, they'd say, "It's 9.15 and it looks as if the evening has come to an end. But what's this? Tommy 'Pickles' Dempsey pops up with a late pint of light and bitter to prolong the festivities. So it's 'Bottoms up' for well-earned refreshment all round."

What the outrage has missed is that football's standards of behaviour HAVE declined, but it's little to do with swearing. For example, it's now customary for every post-match interview with a losing manager to go something like, "Well, I know I'll get into trouble for saying this, but that referee has cost us the game. Obviously I respect the officials, but that blind ignorant twat needs to be kicked senseless and dumped in a canal for his performance today. But if I set fire to his house, then it's ME that gets in trouble."

Every refereeing decision provokes 15 minutes of jostling, and after any free-kick against their team the manager runs down the touchline waving his arms in such a way you think they must be screaming: "I've just been informed by the Army there's a prehistoric monster on the loose."

But the reason this happens now is because for some clubs these tactics work. Ex-referee Graham Poll explained recently how in one game a referee declined to send Rooney off, because he was hoping to be selected for a big match in which Manchester United were playing, and if United manager Alex Ferguson complained, that would affect his chances. Similar thoughts must go through the minds of referees when they're taking part in a match with the biggest clubs, who dominate the finances of the game.

Similarly, most commentators agree it would be impossible to curb the behaviour of players or managers because the Premier League would object. So football appears to reflect the financial arrogance of the times, in which the richest feel any rules restricting their behaviour are an affront to their right to do as they please.

Soon the wealthiest clubs will demand deregulation, so they can buy a poorer team's corners and free-kicks. And Blackpool will announce "Chelsea have made an offer for three of our penalties, and given our financial situation we have no choice but to sell to survive." If Carlos Tevez is booked for a foul, his agent will run on and tell the referee it would be sheer folly to try to penalise him, as he'll respond by taking his tackles out of the country, and in any case the two-footed lunge was registered in his wife's name so he's not liable. And when there is an outcry about a player's behaviour, the League run by oligarchs, billionaires and oil barons will say ,"It seems a footballer has been using his position irresponsibly. Where DOES he get it from?"
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Coca-Cola have chosen not to renew their contract with him.

Mainly to do with his prossie-shagging/pregnant wife-cheating ways.

Allegedly.
 
[quote author=localny link=topic=44800.msg1311502#msg1311502 date=1302131762]
One of the most overrated players in a generation IMHO
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That's just bitter nonsense. MASSIVE cunt? Yes. Sublime footballer? Ditto.
 
on his day he's boss, but he runs hot and cold too much. He has purple patches and dire patches. if he was consistent he could be one of the best
 
His 2 match ban has been upheld so he'll miss the semi-final with City. No idea why the FA didn't add an extra match to his ban as they usually do with unsuccessful appeals.
 
[quote author=Pesam link=topic=44800.msg1311593#msg1311593 date=1302168887]
His 2 match ban has been upheld so he'll miss the semi-final with City. No idea why the FA didn't add an extra match to his ban as they usually do with unsuccesful appeals.
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its more to do with the fact it's a frivolous appeal as opposed to it actually just being an appeal. obviously as a united player it isn't considered frivolous
 
He's released a statement, along the lines of "I'm gutted, I'm not the first, I apologised immediately (he didn't) blah blah"
 
[quote author=localny link=topic=44800.msg1311502#msg1311502 date=1302131762]
One of the most overrated players in a generation IMHO
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Nah I'm not having that, he's an absolutely brilliant footballer.
 
[quote author=Ryan link=topic=44800.msg1311628#msg1311628 date=1302171610]
[quote author=localny link=topic=44800.msg1311502#msg1311502 date=1302131762]
One of the most overrated players in a generation IMHO
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Nah I'm not having that, he's an absolutely brilliant footballer.
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He is that. Fabio has a point though, he isn't consistent, & that will always keep him from being that step above, which the likes of ronaldo et al reach.

I can't help but feel he'll waste his talent, he's the football equivalent of that Carroll fella who won the lottery & blew it all in a few years on coke, hookers & KFC.
 
[quote author=Ryan link=topic=44800.msg1311628#msg1311628 date=1302171610]
[quote author=localny link=topic=44800.msg1311502#msg1311502 date=1302131762]
One of the most overrated players in a generation IMHO
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Nah I'm not having that, he's an absolutely brilliant footballer.
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Innit.

If you're going to slag him off, pick a week when he doesn't score a Premiership hat-trick and the winning goal in a Champs League quarter final.
 
[quote author=LarryHagman link=topic=44800.msg1311915#msg1311915 date=1302220550]
[quote author=Ryan link=topic=44800.msg1311628#msg1311628 date=1302171610]
[quote author=localny link=topic=44800.msg1311502#msg1311502 date=1302131762]
One of the most overrated players in a generation IMHO
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Nah I'm not having that, he's an absolutely brilliant footballer.
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Innit.

If you're going to slag him off, pick a week when he doesn't score a Premiership hat-trick and the winning goal in a Champs League quarter final.


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Damn straight.

People seem to think that because he's not quite Messi or Ronaldo that he's somehow shit and overrated.

He's brilliant.
 
Can't agree. Brilliant players deliver consistently. He doesn't. Talented? Yes? Consistent? No.


He's living off his reputation from years ago. Completely over rated - didn't score for a year or something? Gimme a break.
 
[quote author=FoxForceFive link=topic=44800.msg1310729#msg1310729 date=1302026835]
The FA's decision has been questioned by Professional Footballers' Association chief Gordon Taylor.

In a statement issued on the PFA website, Taylor said: "Whilst the use of foul and abusive language is not condoned, there is an acceptance by all parties within the game that 'industrial language' is commonly used.

"It becomes an issue when directed towards match officials. However, when used in a spontaneous way in celebration or frustration then it is not normally expected to merit a sanction.

"If sanctions are to be imposed in such circumstances then this has to be done in a balanced and consistent manner, and participants made aware of this fundamental change in approach."
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You sir, are a cunt.

He swore directly at the camera, at lunchtime to millions of viewers.

That's BANG OUT OF ORDER. Swearing on the pitch at others is one thing, to swear AT the viewers is quite another & I think a two game ban is exceptionally lenient, & I'd think the same were it Stevie, Reina or any of our players.
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LOL ;D ???


I think its hillarious that we're calling some guy a "cunt" because he's perceived as defending someone who swore.


Nothing personal FFF 😉, just makes me smile.
 
[quote author=FoxForceFive link=topic=44800.msg1311910#msg1311910 date=1302217712]
[quote author=Ryan link=topic=44800.msg1311628#msg1311628 date=1302171610]
[quote author=localny link=topic=44800.msg1311502#msg1311502 date=1302131762]
One of the most overrated players in a generation IMHO
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Nah I'm not having that, he's an absolutely brilliant footballer.
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He is that. Fabio has a point though, he isn't consistent, & that will always keep him from being that step above, which the likes of ronaldo et al reach.

I can't help but feel he'll waste his talent, he's the football equivalent of that Carroll fella who won the lottery & blew it all in a few years on coke, hookers & KFC.
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And contributions to Loyalist "Organisations".

Is the name 'Caroll' synonymous with 'waster' ?
 
[quote author=localny link=topic=44800.msg1311502#msg1311502 date=1302131762]
One of the most overrated players in a generation IMHO
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Funny how these players seem to play for the mancs all the time.

The last one was Becks and now Rooney; all media hype they are and totally overrated.


How they manage to deliver Champions League trophies and league titles is a weird one. :🙂
 
[quote author=localny link=topic=44800.msg1311933#msg1311933 date=1302233272]


Can't agree. Brilliant players deliver consistently. He doesn't. Talented? Yes? Consistent? No.


He's living off his reputation from years ago. Completely over rated - didn't score for a year or something? Gimme a break.
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Consistency eh?

2006 - 19 goals
2007 - 23 goals
2008 - 18 goals
2009 - 20 goals
2010 - 34 goals

I could discount 2008 and 2009 from that list cos he effectively played as Ronaldo's dogsbody.

Fuck knows how many assists he'd have, at a guess it'd hit double figures every season too.

He scores in all competitions, in all of the biggest games, all the time. He's the best player in the best team in Britain and the last 7 days are pretty big evidence as to how important he is to them.

How about you tell me how and why you think he's underrated and inconsitent?
 
[quote author=localny link=topic=44800.msg1311933#msg1311933 date=1302233272]


Can't agree. Brilliant players deliver consistently. He doesn't. Talented? Yes? Consistent? No.


He's living off his reputation from years ago. Completely over rated - didn't score for a year or something? Gimme a break.
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please stop
 
I'll make this easy and painless. To me he gets over hyped. Yes he's talented and better than many a player yes he scored a lot of penalties 😉, I just don't see him as the genius he is posited as. And unlike you I've seen him vanish in too many a big game. Maybe I am just splitting o'hares here and his Performances for England should be discounted but talented - without doubt. One of the best players in Europe or the world like gerrard? I don't believe so
 
So it's an opinion based on zero evidence aside from "some games you've seen". And no one else agrees with you.

I wish I could bookmark your posts.
 
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