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Rooney or Torres - who the better player?

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Talksport debate on now?

They are saying they would have Rooney over Torres any day, nobody would take Torres over Rooney they say
 
They always say deliberately stupid things to get people to phone them.

It isn't a debate as far as I'm concerned. Rooney is a top player, but Torres is out of this world. What's their goal to game ratio for Utd and Liverpool?
 
[quote author=doctor_mac link=topic=36123.msg952935#msg952935 date=1254150159]
They always say deliberately stupid things to get people to phone them.

It isn't a debate as far as I'm concerned. Rooney is a top player, but Torres is out of this world. What's their goal to game ratio for Utd and Liverpool?
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they are talking about not just goals, creation as well plus what they do for a team as a whole

if Torres was not a LFC player I bet we would see it more evenly
 
Depends what you want really.

If you just want goals, then obviously Torres.. he's clearly the better striker. If you want assists and a few goals, then Rooney as he's the better all round player.
 
[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=36123.msg952943#msg952943 date=1254150859]
I think they are taking into account rooney's all round game Dickheads
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I completed the equation. What do I win?

[quote author=Mors link=topic=36123.msg952948#msg952948 date=1254151035]
Torres = Rooney by x100000000000
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They'd be a devastating strike pairing.

But I wouldn't swap Torres for anyone
 
I wouldn't swap rooney for torres and torres is a better goal scorer but is torres all round game better than rooney's? vision, creativity etc?
its a little lie comparing rush with kenny. different players, one is a creator the other is a finisher.
there are people getting angry at the host, and for what? having an opinion?
 
[quote author=doctor_mac link=topic=36123.msg952955#msg952955 date=1254151475]
I completed the equation. What do I win?

[quote author=Mors link=topic=36123.msg952948#msg952948 date=1254151035]
Torres = Rooney by x100000000000
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You're now allowed to delete any of these sort of threads by Fox.

I hear next up is 'what is better - cheese or the library'
 
[quote author=Farkmaster link=topic=36123.msg952960#msg952960 date=1254151935]
Rooney is better than Torres at being English, and that's about it.
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Torres has got a better grasp of the English language than Rooney IMO.
 
What a stupid debate...

Anyone who says Rooney is blinkered by the fact he's "in-ger-lish"
 
I think a better question is who is better rooney or gerrard because they essentially play in the same position, aren't out and out strikers and are the talisman of their team (well rooney is now ronaldo has gone). torres is an out and out striker and rooney is a creative forward.
the talksport host is a little annoying with his claim torres offers nothing but goals, which is bollox, you could level that at RVN, owen but not torres who actually plays as the second striker for spain and was the second striker at AM.
 
[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=36123.msg952977#msg952977 date=1254153783]
I think a better question is who is better rooney or gerrard because they essentially play in the same position, aren't out and out strikers and are the talisman of their team (well rooney is now ronaldo has gone). torres is an out and out striker and rooney is a creative forward.
the talksport host is a little annoying with his claim torres offers nothing but goals, which is bollox, you could level that at RVN, owen but not torres who actually plays as the second striker for spain and was the second striker at AM.
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That's fine.
 
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[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=36123.msg952977#msg952977 date=1254153783]
I think a better question is who is better rooney or gerrard because they essentially play in the same position, aren't out and out strikers and are the talisman of their team (well rooney is now ronaldo has gone). torres is an out and out striker and rooney is a creative forward.
the talksport host is a little annoying with his claim torres offers nothing but goals, which is bollox, you could level that at RVN, owen but not torres who actually plays as the second striker for spain and was the second striker at AM.
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That's fine.
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no it's not. even out and out scorers have to give something to the team other than goals, be it work rate, the ability to hold up the ball, the ability to chase down lost causes, the ability to play with your back to goal the the ability to create chances. someone who waits for chances, finishes them clinically but offers fuck all else is a waste of space. read; inzaghi
 
Rooney is all effort.

Torres does it with such ease and elegance.

Oh & Torres has proven himself in 2 top leagues.
 
if someone said they would want rooney in their team because they think he has a better all round game, its an opinion and I guess you could argue the point but if someone said they would want rooney in their team because torres offers nothing else but goals I would tell them they are chatting shit and obviously haven't watch torres for a sustained period of time.
 
Premier league
08/09 07/08

Assists Goals Assists Goals
Rooney 7 12 13 12
Torres 5 14 3 24


Its actually really close, i dislike Rooney a lot but he has been played out wide a fair bit so he's done alright. Its safe to say those two in the same team would be super, however give me Torres any day as goal scorer is way more valuable than someone to assist.
 
[quote author=SaintGeorge67 link=topic=36123.msg952988#msg952988 date=1254154984]
Wasn't talksport a Kelvin McKenzie creation?
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Thought it was owned by some Irish company?

They have the worse presenters going, Ian Wright, Darren Gough that ex-Chelsea wanker Cundy!!
 
[quote author=SaintGeorge67 link=topic=36123.msg953008#msg953008 date=1254156711]
I enjoyed Cundys lack of knowledge being exposed by Graeme hunter on ssn last season prior to barca chelsea.
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i remember that, it was excellent. That Adrian Durham guy is a shit too by the way
 
[quote author=Markeh link=topic=36123.msg953001#msg953001 date=1254156233]
Premier league
08/09 07/08

Assists Goals Assists Goals
Rooney 7 12 13 12
Torres 5 14 3 24


Its actually really close, i dislike Rooney a lot but he has been played out wide a fair bit so he's done alright. Its safe to say those two in the same team would be super, however give me Torres any day as goal scorer is way more valuable than someone to assist.
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How many games did they play?
 
07/08 Torres 33 Rooney 27
08/09 Torres 24 Rooney 30

over the two seasons theres not a lot between the two
 
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