there, I said it 🙂
ronaldo scores loads of goals but messi is world's best
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Ronaldos a cunt, Messi seems alright(and a much better player)
[quote author=Roopy link=topic=30248.msg771340#msg771340 date=1231324085]
Whereas with Ronaldo, who is very good also, you can tell most of his skill is down to more training.
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Thats bollocks im afraid. Hes a natural talent. Id love to know the coach who taught him to do some of the stuff he can do with the ball if its down to training.
Whereas with Ronaldo, who is very good also, you can tell most of his skill is down to more training.
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Thats bollocks im afraid. Hes a natural talent. Id love to know the coach who taught him to do some of the stuff he can do with the ball if its down to training.
Most Scum fans have fallen out of love with Ronaldo, they still appreciate that he is their most likely match winner but now mock his histionics when he feels aggrieved. They also have not forgiven him for his attempted move last summer and there is an underlying feeling that he is not playing as well as previous seasons as he is trying to engineer a transfer this summer.
Personally I dislike the man very much. Yes, he is amazingly talented and can do some remarkable things on the pitch but his attitude stinks and he seems like a very vain and unsavoury character.
Messi>>>>Ronaldo
Personally I dislike the man very much. Yes, he is amazingly talented and can do some remarkable things on the pitch but his attitude stinks and he seems like a very vain and unsavoury character.
Messi>>>>Ronaldo
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Messi>>>>Ronaldo
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Yep.
Messi>>>>Ronaldo
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Yep.
[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=30248.msg771312#msg771312 date=1231319622]
there, I said it 🙂
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Without a doubt mate.
He's fucking awesome. Closest thing to Maradona I've seen. I think him alone should make all managers take at least 1 gamble on a south american flair player.
No doubt there'll be a few planks on here that think the waiter's stepovers and 40goals against the relegation fodder make him better.
there, I said it 🙂
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Without a doubt mate.
He's fucking awesome. Closest thing to Maradona I've seen. I think him alone should make all managers take at least 1 gamble on a south american flair player.
No doubt there'll be a few planks on here that think the waiter's stepovers and 40goals against the relegation fodder make him better.
[quote author=Mors link=topic=30248.msg771375#msg771375 date=1231327487]
No doubt there'll be a few planks on here that think the waiter's stepovers and 40 goals against the relegation fodder make him better.
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World Player of the Year 2008 - Cristiano Ronaldo. Was everyone who voted for him a "plank"?
No doubt there'll be a few planks on here that think the waiter's stepovers and 40 goals against the relegation fodder make him better.
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World Player of the Year 2008 - Cristiano Ronaldo. Was everyone who voted for him a "plank"?
[quote author=Whitey85 link=topic=30248.msg771381#msg771381 date=1231328522]
[quote author=Mors link=topic=30248.msg771375#msg771375 date=1231327487]
No doubt there'll be a few planks on here that think the waiter's stepovers and 40 goals against the relegation fodder make him better.
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World Player of the Year 2008 - Cristiano Ronaldo. Was everyone who voted for him a "plank"?
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They can vote him over Messi all they like, they're wrong.
[quote author=Mors link=topic=30248.msg771375#msg771375 date=1231327487]
No doubt there'll be a few planks on here that think the waiter's stepovers and 40 goals against the relegation fodder make him better.
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World Player of the Year 2008 - Cristiano Ronaldo. Was everyone who voted for him a "plank"?
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They can vote him over Messi all they like, they're wrong.
[quote author=Whitey85 link=topic=30248.msg771381#msg771381 date=1231328522]
[quote author=Mors link=topic=30248.msg771375#msg771375 date=1231327487]
No doubt there'll be a few planks on here that think the waiter's stepovers and 40 goals against the relegation fodder make him better.
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World Player of the Year 2008 - Cristiano Ronaldo. Was everyone who voted for him a "plank"?
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yes 🙂
[quote author=Mors link=topic=30248.msg771375#msg771375 date=1231327487]
No doubt there'll be a few planks on here that think the waiter's stepovers and 40 goals against the relegation fodder make him better.
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World Player of the Year 2008 - Cristiano Ronaldo. Was everyone who voted for him a "plank"?
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yes 🙂
[quote author=Mors link=topic=30248.msg771384#msg771384 date=1231328674]
[quote author=Whitey85 link=topic=30248.msg771381#msg771381 date=1231328522]
[quote author=Mors link=topic=30248.msg771375#msg771375 date=1231327487]
No doubt there'll be a few planks on here that think the waiter's stepovers and 40 goals against the relegation fodder make him better.
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World Player of the Year 2008 - Cristiano Ronaldo. Was everyone who voted for him a "plank"?
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They can vote him over Messi all they like, they're wrong.
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Last year Ronaldo deserved it. Unless Barca spectacularly collapse and / or he gets injured, Messi will definitely pick up all the awards next time round - he's been sensational so far.
As for scoring goals against cannon fodder - have you watched any Barca games of late? The gulf in class, even when playing some of the better teams, is marked.
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[quote author=Mors link=topic=30248.msg771375#msg771375 date=1231327487]
No doubt there'll be a few planks on here that think the waiter's stepovers and 40 goals against the relegation fodder make him better.
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World Player of the Year 2008 - Cristiano Ronaldo. Was everyone who voted for him a "plank"?
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They can vote him over Messi all they like, they're wrong.
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Last year Ronaldo deserved it. Unless Barca spectacularly collapse and / or he gets injured, Messi will definitely pick up all the awards next time round - he's been sensational so far.
As for scoring goals against cannon fodder - have you watched any Barca games of late? The gulf in class, even when playing some of the better teams, is marked.
The test of a players ability, is to prove it in another league. Please fuck off to spain greaseball, please sign for us Mr Messi, sir.
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[quote author=Mors link=topic=30248.msg771384#msg771384 date=1231328674]
[quote author=Whitey85 link=topic=30248.msg771381#msg771381 date=1231328522]
[quote author=Mors link=topic=30248.msg771375#msg771375 date=1231327487]
No doubt there'll be a few planks on here that think the waiter's stepovers and 40 goals against the relegation fodder make him better.
[/quote]
World Player of the Year 2008 - Cristiano Ronaldo. Was everyone who voted for him a "plank"?
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They can vote him over Messi all they like, they're wrong.
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Last year Ronaldo deserved it. Unless Barca spectacularly collapse and / or he gets injured, Messi will definitely pick up all the awards next time round - he's been sensational so far.
As for scoring goals against cannon fodder - have you watched any Barca games of late? The gulf in class, even when playing some of the better teams, is marked.
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He deserved it last year. Granted, the dickhead scored a load of goals, but if you watched the pair of them play last season, Messi was far better and is far more capable against the big teams.
I think when Messi retires (hopefully a long long time away) he'll be remembered up there with the greats, and is showing potential to be up there with the very best. Whereas the waiter I bet will end up being just another decent player. And, I bet the cock is close to his peak now, whereas Messi isn't.
[quote author=Mors link=topic=30248.msg771384#msg771384 date=1231328674]
[quote author=Whitey85 link=topic=30248.msg771381#msg771381 date=1231328522]
[quote author=Mors link=topic=30248.msg771375#msg771375 date=1231327487]
No doubt there'll be a few planks on here that think the waiter's stepovers and 40 goals against the relegation fodder make him better.
[/quote]
World Player of the Year 2008 - Cristiano Ronaldo. Was everyone who voted for him a "plank"?
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They can vote him over Messi all they like, they're wrong.
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Last year Ronaldo deserved it. Unless Barca spectacularly collapse and / or he gets injured, Messi will definitely pick up all the awards next time round - he's been sensational so far.
As for scoring goals against cannon fodder - have you watched any Barca games of late? The gulf in class, even when playing some of the better teams, is marked.
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He deserved it last year. Granted, the dickhead scored a load of goals, but if you watched the pair of them play last season, Messi was far better and is far more capable against the big teams.
I think when Messi retires (hopefully a long long time away) he'll be remembered up there with the greats, and is showing potential to be up there with the very best. Whereas the waiter I bet will end up being just another decent player. And, I bet the cock is close to his peak now, whereas Messi isn't.
It seems to be some kind of universal "checks and balances" force that does this on 6cm. Just when you're thinking that everyone has their feet on the ground you get a load of nut jobs espousing that some guy playing in a far weaker league who has scored far less goals and made his team far less successful is somehow superior on the basis of 4 months ....... including a period during which Ronaldo was recovering from injury.
Heh. This slow period in the season has clearly led to a lot of experimenting with banned substances. Please keep pointing to all Messi's wonderful performances against amateurs - it really does strengthen his case. No, truly. :🙂
PS. I've heard there's some guy in the Japanese league - getting loads of goals and assists; I dare say he might be the best in the world just now. 😱
Heh. This slow period in the season has clearly led to a lot of experimenting with banned substances. Please keep pointing to all Messi's wonderful performances against amateurs - it really does strengthen his case. No, truly. :🙂
PS. I've heard there's some guy in the Japanese league - getting loads of goals and assists; I dare say he might be the best in the world just now. 😱
[quote author=Wizardry link=topic=30248.msg771453#msg771453 date=1231333915]
It seems to be some kind of universal "checks and balances" force that does this on 6cm. Just when you're thinking that everyone has their feet on the ground you get a load of nut jobs espousing that some guy playing in a far weaker league who has scored far less goals and made his team far less successful is somehow superior on the basis of 4 months ....... including a period during which Ronaldo was recovering from injury.
Heh. This slow period in the season has clearly led to a lot of experimenting with banned substances. Please keep pointing to all Messi's wonderful performances against amateurs - it really does strengthen his case. No, truly. :🙂
PS. I've heard there's some guy in the Japanese league - getting loads of goals and assists; I dare say he might be the best in the world just now. 😱
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so la liga is a shit league? in the last ten years how many representatives have the english league had in the CL final compared to spain?
It seems to be some kind of universal "checks and balances" force that does this on 6cm. Just when you're thinking that everyone has their feet on the ground you get a load of nut jobs espousing that some guy playing in a far weaker league who has scored far less goals and made his team far less successful is somehow superior on the basis of 4 months ....... including a period during which Ronaldo was recovering from injury.
Heh. This slow period in the season has clearly led to a lot of experimenting with banned substances. Please keep pointing to all Messi's wonderful performances against amateurs - it really does strengthen his case. No, truly. :🙂
PS. I've heard there's some guy in the Japanese league - getting loads of goals and assists; I dare say he might be the best in the world just now. 😱
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so la liga is a shit league? in the last ten years how many representatives have the english league had in the CL final compared to spain?
[quote author=Wizardry link=topic=30248.msg771453#msg771453 date=1231333915]
It seems to be some kind of universal "checks and balances" force that does this on 6cm. Just when you're thinking that everyone has their feet on the ground you get a load of nut jobs espousing that some guy playing in a far weaker league who has scored far less goals and made his team far less successful is somehow superior on the basis of 4 months ....... including a period during which Ronaldo was recovering from injury.
Heh. This slow period in the season has clearly led to a lot of experimenting with banned substances. Please keep pointing to all Messi's wonderful performances against amateurs - it really does strengthen his case. No, truly.
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Heh, but it's equally absurd to dismiss Messi in the manner that you have. Checks and balances indeed.
It seems to be some kind of universal "checks and balances" force that does this on 6cm. Just when you're thinking that everyone has their feet on the ground you get a load of nut jobs espousing that some guy playing in a far weaker league who has scored far less goals and made his team far less successful is somehow superior on the basis of 4 months ....... including a period during which Ronaldo was recovering from injury.
Heh. This slow period in the season has clearly led to a lot of experimenting with banned substances. Please keep pointing to all Messi's wonderful performances against amateurs - it really does strengthen his case. No, truly.
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Heh, but it's equally absurd to dismiss Messi in the manner that you have. Checks and balances indeed.
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the_khl
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[quote author=Mors link=topic=30248.msg771375#msg771375 date=1231327487]
No doubt there'll be a few planks on here that think the waiter's stepovers and 40 goals against the relegation fodder make him better.
[/quote]
World Player of the Year 2008 - Cristiano Ronaldo. Was everyone who voted for him a "plank"?
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They can vote him over Messi all they like, they're wrong.
[/quote]
Last year Ronaldo deserved it. Unless Barca spectacularly collapse and / or he gets injured, Messi will definitely pick up all the awards next time round - he's been sensational so far.
As for scoring goals against cannon fodder - have you watched any Barca games of late? The gulf in class, even when playing some of the better teams, is marked.
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Barca are playing brilliantly at the moment and alongside ourselves they are the best playing team in Europe.
*When was the last time anyone could, without having a laugh, boldly claim that we were the best playing team around? Fucking ages I tell you.
[quote author=Mors link=topic=30248.msg771384#msg771384 date=1231328674]
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[quote author=Mors link=topic=30248.msg771375#msg771375 date=1231327487]
No doubt there'll be a few planks on here that think the waiter's stepovers and 40 goals against the relegation fodder make him better.
[/quote]
World Player of the Year 2008 - Cristiano Ronaldo. Was everyone who voted for him a "plank"?
[/quote]
They can vote him over Messi all they like, they're wrong.
[/quote]
Last year Ronaldo deserved it. Unless Barca spectacularly collapse and / or he gets injured, Messi will definitely pick up all the awards next time round - he's been sensational so far.
As for scoring goals against cannon fodder - have you watched any Barca games of late? The gulf in class, even when playing some of the better teams, is marked.
[/quote]
Barca are playing brilliantly at the moment and alongside ourselves they are the best playing team in Europe.
*When was the last time anyone could, without having a laugh, boldly claim that we were the best playing team around? Fucking ages I tell you.
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[quote author=keniget link=topic=30248.msg771397#msg771397 date=1231329871]
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[quote author=Whitey85 link=topic=30248.msg771381#msg771381 date=1231328522]
[quote author=Mors link=topic=30248.msg771375#msg771375 date=1231327487]
No doubt there'll be a few planks on here that think the waiter's stepovers and 40 goals against the relegation fodder make him better.
[/quote]
World Player of the Year 2008 - Cristiano Ronaldo. Was everyone who voted for him a "plank"?
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They can vote him over Messi all they like, they're wrong.
[/quote]
Last year Ronaldo deserved it. Unless Barca spectacularly collapse and / or he gets injured, Messi will definitely pick up all the awards next time round - he's been sensational so far.
As for scoring goals against cannon fodder - have you watched any Barca games of late? The gulf in class, even when playing some of the better teams, is marked.
[/quote]
Barca are playing brilliantly at the moment and alongside ourselves they are the best playing team in Europe.
*When was the last time anyone could, without having a laugh, boldly claim that we were the best playing team around? Fucking ages I tell you.
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I don't think a single supporter of a different club or a neutral would agree with that. We've been better than we ever have for the last couple of decades, but by no means are we 'the best playing team' in Europe.
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[quote author=Mors link=topic=30248.msg771375#msg771375 date=1231327487]
No doubt there'll be a few planks on here that think the waiter's stepovers and 40 goals against the relegation fodder make him better.
[/quote]
World Player of the Year 2008 - Cristiano Ronaldo. Was everyone who voted for him a "plank"?
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They can vote him over Messi all they like, they're wrong.
[/quote]
Last year Ronaldo deserved it. Unless Barca spectacularly collapse and / or he gets injured, Messi will definitely pick up all the awards next time round - he's been sensational so far.
As for scoring goals against cannon fodder - have you watched any Barca games of late? The gulf in class, even when playing some of the better teams, is marked.
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Barca are playing brilliantly at the moment and alongside ourselves they are the best playing team in Europe.
*When was the last time anyone could, without having a laugh, boldly claim that we were the best playing team around? Fucking ages I tell you.
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I don't think a single supporter of a different club or a neutral would agree with that. We've been better than we ever have for the last couple of decades, but by no means are we 'the best playing team' in Europe.
But Messi cost Barca the CL last season for not tackling Paul Scholes.
Personally think
Messi
Gerrard/Ronaldo (Torres not far behind)
Xavi, Et'o etc would be thereabouts aswell
Messi
Gerrard/Ronaldo (Torres not far behind)
Xavi, Et'o etc would be thereabouts aswell
[quote author=Piedro link=topic=30248.msg771509#msg771509 date=1231338133]
Liverpool website in "Messi better than Ronaldo" shocker.
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so liverpool players can't be objective about manc players?
Liverpool website in "Messi better than Ronaldo" shocker.
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so liverpool players can't be objective about manc players?
[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=30248.msg771519#msg771519 date=1231339101]
[quote author=Piedro link=topic=30248.msg771509#msg771509 date=1231338133]
Liverpool website in "Messi better than Ronaldo" shocker.
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so liverpool supporters {assume you meant supporters Neil} can't be objective about manc players?
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Exactly, I have seen; Scholes, Giggs, Keane, Schmeichel etc given due respect over the years on here and Koptalk previously. There will always be a few who will will never say a good word about their players but I reckon the majority on here view Scum players objectively.
[quote author=Piedro link=topic=30248.msg771509#msg771509 date=1231338133]
Liverpool website in "Messi better than Ronaldo" shocker.
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so liverpool supporters {assume you meant supporters Neil} can't be objective about manc players?
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Exactly, I have seen; Scholes, Giggs, Keane, Schmeichel etc given due respect over the years on here and Koptalk previously. There will always be a few who will will never say a good word about their players but I reckon the majority on here view Scum players objectively.
[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=30248.msg771455#msg771455 date=1231334102]
[quote author=Wizardry link=topic=30248.msg771453#msg771453 date=1231333915]
It seems to be some kind of universal "checks and balances" force that does this on 6cm. Just when you're thinking that everyone has their feet on the ground you get a load of nut jobs espousing that some guy playing in a far weaker league who has scored far less goals and made his team far less successful is somehow superior on the basis of 4 months ....... including a period during which Ronaldo was recovering from injury.
Heh. This slow period in the season has clearly led to a lot of experimenting with banned substances. Please keep pointing to all Messi's wonderful performances against amateurs - it really does strengthen his case. No, truly. :🙂
PS. I've heard there's some guy in the Japanese league - getting loads of goals and assists; I dare say he might be the best in the world just now. 😱
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so la liga is a shit league? in the last ten years how many representatives have the english league had in the CL final compared to spain?
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Given Ronaldo and Messi (who's clearly number 2 in the world - for Keni's benefit) have been duelling for the last 3 or 4 years, why don't we have a look at the last 4; tell me who's dominated the CL in those years ..... please. At least give me a hint.
I'll go out on a limb and say that pattern isn't going to change this season either. Barca may well end up winning it but they're the only Spanish team with a prayer. The epl has 3 teams who would be considered genuine chances....... and I dare say the runners up of a couple of years ago would argue they should be in there somewhere too.
[quote author=Wizardry link=topic=30248.msg771453#msg771453 date=1231333915]
It seems to be some kind of universal "checks and balances" force that does this on 6cm. Just when you're thinking that everyone has their feet on the ground you get a load of nut jobs espousing that some guy playing in a far weaker league who has scored far less goals and made his team far less successful is somehow superior on the basis of 4 months ....... including a period during which Ronaldo was recovering from injury.
Heh. This slow period in the season has clearly led to a lot of experimenting with banned substances. Please keep pointing to all Messi's wonderful performances against amateurs - it really does strengthen his case. No, truly. :🙂
PS. I've heard there's some guy in the Japanese league - getting loads of goals and assists; I dare say he might be the best in the world just now. 😱
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so la liga is a shit league? in the last ten years how many representatives have the english league had in the CL final compared to spain?
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Given Ronaldo and Messi (who's clearly number 2 in the world - for Keni's benefit) have been duelling for the last 3 or 4 years, why don't we have a look at the last 4; tell me who's dominated the CL in those years ..... please. At least give me a hint.
I'll go out on a limb and say that pattern isn't going to change this season either. Barca may well end up winning it but they're the only Spanish team with a prayer. The epl has 3 teams who would be considered genuine chances....... and I dare say the runners up of a couple of years ago would argue they should be in there somewhere too.
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[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=30248.msg771519#msg771519 date=1231339101]
[quote author=Piedro link=topic=30248.msg771509#msg771509 date=1231338133]
Liverpool website in "Messi better than Ronaldo" shocker.
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so liverpool supporters {assume you meant supporters Neil} can't be objective about manc players?
[/quote]
Exactly, I have seen; Scholes, Giggs, Keane, Schmeichel etc given due respect over the years on here and Koptalk previously. There will always be a few who will will never say a good word about their players but I reckon the majority on here view Scum players objectively.
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yes supporters.
[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=30248.msg771519#msg771519 date=1231339101]
[quote author=Piedro link=topic=30248.msg771509#msg771509 date=1231338133]
Liverpool website in "Messi better than Ronaldo" shocker.
[/quote]
so liverpool supporters {assume you meant supporters Neil} can't be objective about manc players?
[/quote]
Exactly, I have seen; Scholes, Giggs, Keane, Schmeichel etc given due respect over the years on here and Koptalk previously. There will always be a few who will will never say a good word about their players but I reckon the majority on here view Scum players objectively.
[/quote]
yes supporters.
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the_khl
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[quote author=Mors link=topic=30248.msg771375#msg771375 date=1231327487]
No doubt there'll be a few planks on here that think the waiter's stepovers and 40 goals against the relegation fodder make him better.
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World Player of the Year 2008 - Cristiano Ronaldo. Was everyone who voted for him a "plank"?
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They can vote him over Messi all they like, they're wrong.
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Last year Ronaldo deserved it. Unless Barca spectacularly collapse and / or he gets injured, Messi will definitely pick up all the awards next time round - he's been sensational so far.
As for scoring goals against cannon fodder - have you watched any Barca games of late? The gulf in class, even when playing some of the better teams, is marked.
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Barca are playing brilliantly at the moment and alongside ourselves they are the best playing team in Europe.
*When was the last time anyone could, without having a laugh, boldly claim that we were the best playing team around? Fucking ages I tell you.
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I don't think a single supporter of a different club or a neutral would agree with that. We've been better than we ever have for the last couple of decades, but by no means are we 'the best playing team' in Europe.
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Maybe it's a wee bit populistic to claim that but if you're only looking at the games played over the last fortnight I reckon you can't find any other better.
The game against Newcastle in particular was magnificent.
*There's a Manc-supporting commentator on one of the Danish channels broadcasting The Premiership and he actually said, that the way Liverpool played in that particular game made him think about the glory United days back in late 90s.
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[quote author=Mors link=topic=30248.msg771375#msg771375 date=1231327487]
No doubt there'll be a few planks on here that think the waiter's stepovers and 40 goals against the relegation fodder make him better.
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World Player of the Year 2008 - Cristiano Ronaldo. Was everyone who voted for him a "plank"?
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They can vote him over Messi all they like, they're wrong.
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Last year Ronaldo deserved it. Unless Barca spectacularly collapse and / or he gets injured, Messi will definitely pick up all the awards next time round - he's been sensational so far.
As for scoring goals against cannon fodder - have you watched any Barca games of late? The gulf in class, even when playing some of the better teams, is marked.
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Barca are playing brilliantly at the moment and alongside ourselves they are the best playing team in Europe.
*When was the last time anyone could, without having a laugh, boldly claim that we were the best playing team around? Fucking ages I tell you.
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I don't think a single supporter of a different club or a neutral would agree with that. We've been better than we ever have for the last couple of decades, but by no means are we 'the best playing team' in Europe.
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Maybe it's a wee bit populistic to claim that but if you're only looking at the games played over the last fortnight I reckon you can't find any other better.
The game against Newcastle in particular was magnificent.
*There's a Manc-supporting commentator on one of the Danish channels broadcasting The Premiership and he actually said, that the way Liverpool played in that particular game made him think about the glory United days back in late 90s.
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