"@Andrew_Heaton: F.A Youth Cup quarter final, Liverpool v Man United, Sunday March 13th 12:00 KO £4 Adult £1 Concessions. Be there. http://bit.ly/ythcup"
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You know I'd love to go to that. I hope they get a big turn out.
Yeah, I think I'll take my lad to this one aswell.
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Are your lads talented footballers?
New Gerrard's perhaps?
New Gerrard's perhaps?
Mine's managed to last 6 months at The Academy without being booted out so he must be doing something right so far.
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[quote author=Sheik Yerbouti link=topic=44233.msg1289747#msg1289747 date=1298460809]
Mine's managed to last 6 months at The Academy without being booted out so he must be doing something right so far.
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That's pretty special isn't it? Good for him (and you).
Keep us updated mate!
Mine's managed to last 6 months at The Academy without being booted out so he must be doing something right so far.
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That's pretty special isn't it? Good for him (and you).
Keep us updated mate!
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[quote author=Sheik Yerbouti link=topic=44233.msg1289747#msg1289747 date=1298460809]
Mine's managed to last 6 months at The Academy without being booted out so he must be doing something right so far.
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That's pretty special isn't it? Good for him (and you).
Keep us updated mate!
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How old is he? And I'm guessing that there are several Academy teams in his age group, is he playing for the best team?
In Sweden teams like AIK have "AIK 1", 2, 3, 4 etc for every age group. AIK 1 is obviously the "allstar" team.
[quote author=Sheik Yerbouti link=topic=44233.msg1289747#msg1289747 date=1298460809]
Mine's managed to last 6 months at The Academy without being booted out so he must be doing something right so far.
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That's pretty special isn't it? Good for him (and you).
Keep us updated mate!
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How old is he? And I'm guessing that there are several Academy teams in his age group, is he playing for the best team?
In Sweden teams like AIK have "AIK 1", 2, 3, 4 etc for every age group. AIK 1 is obviously the "allstar" team.
He first started going when he was 5 and is now 6. He can't actually start playing games until next season due to his age. At the moment he just trains. At that age, I'm not even sure they have official teams. His Sunday League team which he'll start playing for in August is basically an unofficial Academy Team as all the kids in it go there.
‘Six of the best’ – Liverpool starlets set to make the grade at Anfield
With the emergence of Conor Wickham in recent months and Jack Wilshere’s devastatingly effective performance against Barcelona last week seemingly the talk of the town, now, more so than ever before, people are clamouring to know where the next teenage prodigy will spring up from. Here, we’ll take a look at six youngsters currently plying their trade for Liverpool which are destined to make the grade in the very near future – some you may have heard of, some have already featured for the first-team whereas one or two are products of Rodolfo Borrell’s increasingly successful youth-team policy at the club and still play for the academy.
Borrell recently opined: “I think we have some really exciting players coming through and I am very proud that some of them were involved in the build-up to the match against Sparta Prague.†Liverpool have placed special emphasis on integrating and producing first-team worthy youngsters over the last 18 months, and with Kenny Dalglish now at the helm, you could be catching a glimpse, if you haven’t done so already, of all of the players listed in the coming seasons. Let’s kick off with the list shall we?
Conor Coady - Coady had the honour of captaining the England under-17 side to the European Championships last summer and he has recently forced his way into the first-team picture at Anfield after a string of impressive performances for the academy. Capable of playing at centre half or in midfield, Coady is tough but with a touch of class to his play. The 18 year-old recently made the bench for the club in their Europa League knockout away fixture to Sparta Prague and current manager Kenny Dalglish is known to be a fan.
Andre Wisdom - Coady’s partner at the heart of defence during England’s victorious European Championship campaign. Bounced back from heartache in the final against Spain after initially scoring an own goal, to score the equaliser that set England on their way to victory. Great strength of character aside, Wisdom looks comfortable with the ball at his feet and is capable of playing all across the back four. The 18 year-old defender has drawn comparisons in some quarters with Sol Campbell.
Raheem Sterling - The Jamaican born forward has grabbed all the headlines in recent weeks for his, shall we say, sterling efforts for the Liverpool youth team in their recent 9-0 victory in the FA Youth Cup over Southend, with Sterling bagging five goals. Poached from QPR in 2010, the 16 year-old travelled with the first-team squad for Liverpool’s recent Europa League clash away at Sparta Prague. Although he eventually failed to make the bench, big things are expected of Sterling and with the ball at his feet and in full flight, he bares an uncanny likeness to a certain John Barnes.
Martin Kelly - Technically, defender Martin Kelly appears to have already made the grade at Liverpool, but it’s worth remembering that the young England hopeful is still just 20 years of age and relatively inexperienced despite his mature performances for the first-team to date. The fact that he’s keeping current first-choice England right back Glen Johnson out of his preferred position at the club, with Johnson having been shunted over to left back to accommodate the ever-improving Kelly, says it all. Superb performances against Everton and Chelsea this season mark Kelly out as a fine defender with a great temperament and he could well be England’s first-choice right back by the next World Cup. Kelly has already made 21 appearances for the club across all competitions this season and he could have a huge impact if he keeps going at this rate over the next few years, for both club and country.
Conor Thomas - Amidst all the furore of transfer deadline day at Anfield, you’d be forgiven for letting slip from your mind the signing of 17 year-old Conor Thomas on loan from Coventry with a view to a permanent move. The midfielder has been hailed as Coventry’s brightest prospect for years and there was outcry among sections of the club’s faithful support that they had let such a talent slip through their fingers so easily just days after he’d made his first-team debut in the FA Cup against Birmingham. The nature of the deal is a strange one to say the least, but Liverpool were said to be tracking Thomas for months prior to his switch. Apparently the club decided to swoop quickly in the January transfer window to ward off any potential interest from rival Premier League clubs in the future, which in itself, tells you the youngster must have bags of potential.
Jack Robinson - The all-action left back made headlines last season when he became the youngest ever player to make a first team appearance for the club after a cameo appearance off the bench in the final game of last season against Hull. A regular at England youth team level, the 17 year old attacking minded full-back is also known to love a crunching tackle. Liverpool vice-captain Jamie Carragher has stated of Robinson: “He’s really young and playing in a higher age group – for England as well. I’ve heard a lot of positive things about him. I wasn’t even in the youth team when I first went full-time and he was a regular at 15 which shows you he has something about him.†With the club’s relative paucity of first-team options at left back, Robinson could well be one to watch for next season as he continues his meteoric rise up the footballing ladder.
With the emergence of Conor Wickham in recent months and Jack Wilshere’s devastatingly effective performance against Barcelona last week seemingly the talk of the town, now, more so than ever before, people are clamouring to know where the next teenage prodigy will spring up from. Here, we’ll take a look at six youngsters currently plying their trade for Liverpool which are destined to make the grade in the very near future – some you may have heard of, some have already featured for the first-team whereas one or two are products of Rodolfo Borrell’s increasingly successful youth-team policy at the club and still play for the academy.
Borrell recently opined: “I think we have some really exciting players coming through and I am very proud that some of them were involved in the build-up to the match against Sparta Prague.†Liverpool have placed special emphasis on integrating and producing first-team worthy youngsters over the last 18 months, and with Kenny Dalglish now at the helm, you could be catching a glimpse, if you haven’t done so already, of all of the players listed in the coming seasons. Let’s kick off with the list shall we?
Conor Coady - Coady had the honour of captaining the England under-17 side to the European Championships last summer and he has recently forced his way into the first-team picture at Anfield after a string of impressive performances for the academy. Capable of playing at centre half or in midfield, Coady is tough but with a touch of class to his play. The 18 year-old recently made the bench for the club in their Europa League knockout away fixture to Sparta Prague and current manager Kenny Dalglish is known to be a fan.
Andre Wisdom - Coady’s partner at the heart of defence during England’s victorious European Championship campaign. Bounced back from heartache in the final against Spain after initially scoring an own goal, to score the equaliser that set England on their way to victory. Great strength of character aside, Wisdom looks comfortable with the ball at his feet and is capable of playing all across the back four. The 18 year-old defender has drawn comparisons in some quarters with Sol Campbell.
Raheem Sterling - The Jamaican born forward has grabbed all the headlines in recent weeks for his, shall we say, sterling efforts for the Liverpool youth team in their recent 9-0 victory in the FA Youth Cup over Southend, with Sterling bagging five goals. Poached from QPR in 2010, the 16 year-old travelled with the first-team squad for Liverpool’s recent Europa League clash away at Sparta Prague. Although he eventually failed to make the bench, big things are expected of Sterling and with the ball at his feet and in full flight, he bares an uncanny likeness to a certain John Barnes.
Martin Kelly - Technically, defender Martin Kelly appears to have already made the grade at Liverpool, but it’s worth remembering that the young England hopeful is still just 20 years of age and relatively inexperienced despite his mature performances for the first-team to date. The fact that he’s keeping current first-choice England right back Glen Johnson out of his preferred position at the club, with Johnson having been shunted over to left back to accommodate the ever-improving Kelly, says it all. Superb performances against Everton and Chelsea this season mark Kelly out as a fine defender with a great temperament and he could well be England’s first-choice right back by the next World Cup. Kelly has already made 21 appearances for the club across all competitions this season and he could have a huge impact if he keeps going at this rate over the next few years, for both club and country.
Conor Thomas - Amidst all the furore of transfer deadline day at Anfield, you’d be forgiven for letting slip from your mind the signing of 17 year-old Conor Thomas on loan from Coventry with a view to a permanent move. The midfielder has been hailed as Coventry’s brightest prospect for years and there was outcry among sections of the club’s faithful support that they had let such a talent slip through their fingers so easily just days after he’d made his first-team debut in the FA Cup against Birmingham. The nature of the deal is a strange one to say the least, but Liverpool were said to be tracking Thomas for months prior to his switch. Apparently the club decided to swoop quickly in the January transfer window to ward off any potential interest from rival Premier League clubs in the future, which in itself, tells you the youngster must have bags of potential.
Jack Robinson - The all-action left back made headlines last season when he became the youngest ever player to make a first team appearance for the club after a cameo appearance off the bench in the final game of last season against Hull. A regular at England youth team level, the 17 year old attacking minded full-back is also known to love a crunching tackle. Liverpool vice-captain Jamie Carragher has stated of Robinson: “He’s really young and playing in a higher age group – for England as well. I’ve heard a lot of positive things about him. I wasn’t even in the youth team when I first went full-time and he was a regular at 15 which shows you he has something about him.†With the club’s relative paucity of first-team options at left back, Robinson could well be one to watch for next season as he continues his meteoric rise up the footballing ladder.
So Raheem "bares" an uncanny likeness to John Barnes.
The mind boggles. ;D
The mind boggles. ;D
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Seems we have a rich seam of new talents unearthed here in this mother lode thread and Raheem thread. Can we tunnel them together?
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As the Bible says:
"Asketh the mods and thou shall receive."
Seems we have a rich seam of new talents unearthed here in this mother lode thread and Raheem thread. Can we tunnel them together?
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As the Bible says:
"Asketh the mods and thou shall receive."
[quote author=Sheik Yerbouti link=topic=44233.msg1289782#msg1289782 date=1298465208]
He first started going when he was 5 and is now 6. He can't actually start playing games until next season due to his age. At the moment he just trains. At that age, I'm not even sure they have official teams. His Sunday League team which he'll start playing for in August is basically an unofficial Academy Team as all the kids in it go there.
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That's class.
Good stuff Sheiky junior.
He first started going when he was 5 and is now 6. He can't actually start playing games until next season due to his age. At the moment he just trains. At that age, I'm not even sure they have official teams. His Sunday League team which he'll start playing for in August is basically an unofficial Academy Team as all the kids in it go there.
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That's class.
Good stuff Sheiky junior.
Could Robinson solve our LB problem next season?
OK, there is probably overhyping, but it is true that we have the most exciting crop of kids the academy has seen, like, ever! The hype is understandable in that people who have watched these players coming through are seeing some serious talent.
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Every year some club has a youth team that does really well. Most of them don't make it.
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Yep and I don't think anyone expects every one of these kids to make it. It would be excellent even if only two of them made a serious impact in the first team.
If they are to become good enough they'll need to deal with expectations and pressure at some point anyway. The staff needs to manage them carefully of course but I have full trust in the guys responsible for it atm. Also I'd say having many of these so called hot prospects at the same time might prevent any one of them thinking they are too big for their current team.
Every year some club has a youth team that does really well. Most of them don't make it.
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Yep and I don't think anyone expects every one of these kids to make it. It would be excellent even if only two of them made a serious impact in the first team.
If they are to become good enough they'll need to deal with expectations and pressure at some point anyway. The staff needs to manage them carefully of course but I have full trust in the guys responsible for it atm. Also I'd say having many of these so called hot prospects at the same time might prevent any one of them thinking they are too big for their current team.
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Every year some club has a youth team that does really well. Most of them don't make it.
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Yeah most won't, but our history over the past decade has been *all don't make it*.
Some of these lads will make it. There is a buzz about the academy because there is something worth talking about.
Every year some club has a youth team that does really well. Most of them don't make it.
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Yeah most won't, but our history over the past decade has been *all don't make it*.
Some of these lads will make it. There is a buzz about the academy because there is something worth talking about.
[quote author=Rosco link=topic=44233.msg1290204#msg1290204 date=1298543540]
Yeah but a bit of reality needs to be brought to bear on the situation otherwise in five years time we'll be wondering how Kenny managed to fuck up the development of the greatest youth team ever assembled.
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Everyone knows developing players isn't easy, and having 'the guy who discovered Messi et al' has no doubt added to expectations that may be unrealistic. But let me say that it is better to have an academy full of players that are creating a buzz, that have been flirting with the first team squad, that are also grabbing headlines as part of their youth international squads than to have a flat scene where we've forgotten about the academy because nothing seems to be going on there. As for Kenny squandering the talent at the academy, there clearly is no-one better suited to the task of transitioning players from Academy to Melwood. If no-one breaks through it won't be due to Kenny that's for sure. Though if no-one breaks through from this lot in the next few years I'll be absolutely gob-smacked.
Yeah but a bit of reality needs to be brought to bear on the situation otherwise in five years time we'll be wondering how Kenny managed to fuck up the development of the greatest youth team ever assembled.
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Everyone knows developing players isn't easy, and having 'the guy who discovered Messi et al' has no doubt added to expectations that may be unrealistic. But let me say that it is better to have an academy full of players that are creating a buzz, that have been flirting with the first team squad, that are also grabbing headlines as part of their youth international squads than to have a flat scene where we've forgotten about the academy because nothing seems to be going on there. As for Kenny squandering the talent at the academy, there clearly is no-one better suited to the task of transitioning players from Academy to Melwood. If no-one breaks through it won't be due to Kenny that's for sure. Though if no-one breaks through from this lot in the next few years I'll be absolutely gob-smacked.
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Every year some club has a youth team that does really well. Most of them don't make it.
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But it all depends a little how you run these teams. Why is Barcelona so succesful in bringing in own talent? Why were ajax top of the crop for a while? I believe that if the youth teams are used to create first teamers and not only to win the Youth cup there is a bigger chance to bring through first teamers. If you have an identified way of palying and the youngsters are bread into specific roles.... But in football you often change coaches and you often change strategy. And you often prefer to buy a player to fit a role, rather than create 5 youngsters for the same role...
Every year some club has a youth team that does really well. Most of them don't make it.
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But it all depends a little how you run these teams. Why is Barcelona so succesful in bringing in own talent? Why were ajax top of the crop for a while? I believe that if the youth teams are used to create first teamers and not only to win the Youth cup there is a bigger chance to bring through first teamers. If you have an identified way of palying and the youngsters are bread into specific roles.... But in football you often change coaches and you often change strategy. And you often prefer to buy a player to fit a role, rather than create 5 youngsters for the same role...
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[quote author=Rosco link=topic=44233.msg1290181#msg1290181 date=1298536134]
Every year some club has a youth team that does really well. Most of them don't make it.
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But it all depends a little how you run these teams. Why is Barcelona so succesful in bringing in own talent? Why were ajax top of the crop for a while? I believe that if the youth teams are used to create first teamers and not only to win the Youth cup there is a bigger chance to bring through first teamers. If you have an identified way of palying and the youngsters are bread into specific roles.... But in football you often change coaches and you often change strategy. And you often prefer to buy a player to fit a role, rather than create 5 youngsters for the same role...
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This is true. In fact this is something that Rosco himself has been banging on about, the club having a fixed philosophy that it maintains irrespective of 1st team coach. This is likely not only to allow for us to be consistent at a 1st team level, but also perhaps, more consistent at developing talent.
[quote author=Rosco link=topic=44233.msg1290181#msg1290181 date=1298536134]
Every year some club has a youth team that does really well. Most of them don't make it.
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But it all depends a little how you run these teams. Why is Barcelona so succesful in bringing in own talent? Why were ajax top of the crop for a while? I believe that if the youth teams are used to create first teamers and not only to win the Youth cup there is a bigger chance to bring through first teamers. If you have an identified way of palying and the youngsters are bread into specific roles.... But in football you often change coaches and you often change strategy. And you often prefer to buy a player to fit a role, rather than create 5 youngsters for the same role...
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This is true. In fact this is something that Rosco himself has been banging on about, the club having a fixed philosophy that it maintains irrespective of 1st team coach. This is likely not only to allow for us to be consistent at a 1st team level, but also perhaps, more consistent at developing talent.
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