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Now I don't want to go overboard with praise here (as I'm pretty sure I'd do ok playing beside VVD), but he played pretty well, and maintained it when VVD went off (he also bailed out Gomez a couple of times when he came of the bench) He was also quite decent last week.

Not bad for a player who only last season could only get a loan deal with a non-league team.

 

[article]Standing at 6"3 and a commanding presence at the back, comparisons had already been made to Virgil van Dijk but Liverpool wanted to work on his slim build in the rough-and-ready environment of non-league football.

Yet when he arrived at Kidderminster, current manager Russell Penn - who was assistant to John Pemberton at the time - told the ECHO he was skeptical.

"Listen, I've got nothing against Under-23 football but it's a different sport at our level," he said. "90 per cent of these loans never work."

But Williams was different.

By the time the National League season was cut-short due to the coronavirus, he had broken his nose, went to hospital with concussion and received an automatic three-match ban for a straight red card.

The plan to toughen him up worked perfectly.

Yet all of this happened in the back-drop of Pemberton resigning and his replacement, Jimmy Shan, lasting only 68 days. Penn was tasked with picking up the pieces and admitted Williams bounced back from a difficult start and off-field uncertainty in impressive style.

"He came in, looking the part, and you're thinking oh my God, he's Virgil van Dijk in disguise!" the 34-year-old former Cheltenham Town midfielder laughed.

"He's baby-faced, talks like a baby and everything, but I tell you what. He dived straight into it, rented a house with four other lads and was a really big part of the club straight away.

"He played every game. He struggled the first month and made three mistakes that cost us three goals but he held his hands up for all of them and I think that was the making of him.

"I think he thought f****ng hell, this ain't no mugs game. This is where football really is life and death and mortgages paid for, do you know what I mean? From there he just got better and better."

Penn formed positive relationships with watching England scouts who would ultimately select Williams for their U-19 Marbella International Cup squad in October despite the fact he was turning out five steps below the Premier League.

Liverpool also travelled the considerable distance to watch Williams on a handful of occasions while keeping open a constant line of dialogue with Kidderminster.

A strength and conditioning plan was devised to mimic the weights programme on Merseyside and even though Kidderminster were 16th when the campaign ended, they had conceded only four more goals than Kings Lynn Town in second.

Williams was a key factor behind the statistic.

"He just got better and better and better," Penn said.

"He's had his nose broken away at Darlington and had to go to hospital. He's had concussion, he got sent off and got an automatic three-game ban so he's really learned a lot in his first 12 months of professional football.

"Listen, you can get your a**e slapped at this level by players who don't care where you've come from because it's all about what they're taking home.

"If you're not putting a shift in it doesn't matter where you're from, you'll get told. I think Rhys learned that very, very quick, hence why he was so respected here.

"Don't get me wrong, his quality was second-to-none, so we don't even have to talk about that. That's why he's at Liverpool. I just hope he's learned the dirty side of things that you need at all levels of the game.

"He's learned the game a little bit more playing against 30, 33-year-olds who are there just to beat you up basically and take the weight off someone else's shoulders and he's dealt with that.

"You're going away to Spennymoor Town on a Tuesday night and there's 500 fans booing you. It's things like that that make you grow up a little bit quicker."

Kidderminster sent recordings of all of their matches to Liverpool as bi-weekly meetings discussed Williams' progress and Penn reckons the Premier League leaders were under 'no illusion' about his development.

Sources close to the player have refused to rule out a return to Aggborough next season and pointed out the 'fantastic' contribution made by Harriers during the spell.

But the plan was always to toughen Williams up. Liverpool could well look to a higher level next term after checking that box emphatically.

Not that Penn would turn down the chance to work with the defender again.

"If we can get Rhys Williams back I'll drive up there myself and get him!" he said.

"We're realistic in what Liverpool want to do. It's how they see his development progressing. Their development might be another year at Kidderminster.

"It's irrelevant about a higher level of football. It's about how many games he can play. I've always said you have to play football to learn football.

"He could go to the Conference, possibly League One, and be a squad player and not play 40 games. He played 42 games for us this year and he would not have got that anywhere else.

"It hasn't taken him out of the England reckoning which is a big plus as well. Why not? I see it as if he comes to us and plays another 42 games he's played nearly 100 games before he's 19."[/article]
 
I'm loving this. Maybe LFC have discovered a groundbreaking and foolproof way of developing youngsters: have them train and play alongside the best in the world, then drop them 5 levels down to amateur football to be kicked and abused by embittered burly 33-year-olds taking revenge for their shattered dreams. If they survive both – we've got ourselves a player!
 
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I'm loving this. Maybe LFC have discovered a groundbreaking and foolproof way of developing youngsters: have them train and play alongside the best in the world, then drop them 5 levels down to amateur football to be kicked and abused by vicious 33-year-olds taking revenge for their shattered dreams, if they survive both – we've got ourselves a player!

I think there is a quote in the athletic that is on the money. He went down so far because he was guaranteed to play. Dropping down 2 or 3 divisions wouldn’t have that.
 
[article]Williams made four clearences, two interceptions and won six of his defensive aerial duels – more than any other player for either Liverpool or Arsenal.[/article]

Just read that he has been with the club since 10. Would be fantastic if he makes it with us. Wonder if he will remain with the U23 or loaned out.
 
He was the biggest plus point last night, IMO, along with decent performances form Neco and Adrian.

He's better in the air than Gomez ans generally looked solid and composed. Matching up against Saka, Pepe and Lacazzette is tall order for any CB. Great to see.
 
He's way above SVDB in the pecking order now for me - and showed he can be trusted as the 4th CB (imo). Maybe VDB should be sent out on loan as he needs minutes and competitive games to develop.
 
He's way above SVDB in the pecking order now for me - and showed he can be trusted as the 4th CB (imo). Maybe VDB should be sent out on loan as he needs minutes and competitive games to develop.
Koumetio (sp?) also soon ?
 
He was excellent last night. Most notable thing for me is assured he is in his passing. No half arsed, fanny passes. Nothing fancy either. Just always bang on.
 
If he can maintain this level in the FA Cup games, he'll fetch a good £15m or so at the end of the season.
 
I think there is a quote in the athletic that is on the money. He went down so far because he was guaranteed to play. Dropping down 2 or 3 divisions wouldn’t have that.
Yeah, there is no way you send a player down to non league to toughen him up and teach him how to cook. You could easily achieve the same thing by playing him in Div 1 or 2.

It a nice bit of spin to try and make it sound deliberate.
 
Tell you what we have some exciting prospects at the moment, R & N Williams, Jones, and Elliott all look great.
 
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He's good, but I can't see him becoming a regular, not unless several others move. I was quite surprised he suddenly started figuring in the squad. I suspect it's down to the realisation that we're not getting another senior CB and so we have to gamble on bringing on one more youngster than planned. He's quite promising but once again he needs to get some experience from somewhere.
 

[article]What a difference a week makes. In Amsterdam seven days ago, Jurgen Klopp stood with arm around Rhys Williams and smiled as he imparted some final wisdom.

Liverpool's manager knew the size of the moment for a 19-year-old making his first steps at the highest level. Here was Williams, in one of the sport's cathedrals, being given the responsibility to help his team protect a slender 1-0 lead through injury time.

'I saw in his eyes he was pretty impressed by the occasion,' Klopp reflected.

Williams had every reason to be impressed. His first action after being introduced against Ajax was to win a towering header. They think an awful lot of Williams at Liverpool and the fact Klopp was prepared to put him into a pressure situation spoke volumes.

Here, though, the body language was different. Klopp could not have envisaged having to ask Williams to get stripped and ready for action so soon into Liverpool's second Group D fixture against Midtyjlland but circumstances left him with no option.

There was Fabinho, the man who had been ushered into central defensive duty following the catastrophic injury to Virgil van Dijk, lying with his leg out stretched. He was wincing in the way players do when they have felt something tweak, tear or pop.

The severity of his hamstring damage will be determined on Wednesday after a scan.

So Klopp pointed to Williams and asked him to help Liverpool through a problematic assignment in the midst of what is now a defensive crisis.

This time last year, he was on loan at Kidderminster Harriers and playing in games against Farsley Celtic and Darlington. He had been part of Liverpool's FA Youth Cup winning team in 2019 but the club decided that his education would be best served by a spell playing man's football.

The move was the idea of Academy Director Alex Ingelthopre and Julian Ward, Liverpool's loan and pathways manager, after they had been approached by then Kidderminster manager John Pemberton. They wanted Williams to have a different football experience in his education.

Ward watched Williams regularly at Aggborough Stadium and he showed such an appetite to learn under Pemberton and his successor Russ Penn that the experiment was deemed a resounding success. Williams was rewarded with a new five-year deal at Anfield this summer.

Klopp gave him his first senior action in a 7-2 Carabao Cup win at Lincoln last month. He was with the Under-23s last week, when he scored a towering header in a 3-1 win over Chelsea, but this weekend he is likely to be asked to shackle West Ham's Michail Antonio.

'He did really well and the only problem we have now is that there are four days to the West Ham game and there will be a story every day about him,' said Klopp. 'He has to prove he can deal with that as well. Everything was calm around him and we try to keep it that way.'

If his moment comes to it (Klopp is unsure when Joel Matip will be fit) Williams will not be flustered. He reads the game well – one interception in the 57th minute caught the eye – and makes sensible passes and he will also benefit from having the imperious goalkeeper Alisson Becker behind him.

Fate has put Williams in this position but his talent for this unexpected opportunity should not be doubted.

'We have three very young central defenders but they are all alternatives,' said Klopp. 'At this moment, it looks like we have to choose one of them. I don't know yet but to be really clear and positive, Rhys was not in one situation that was a problem. He played a really good game.' [/article]
 
Rhys Williams has hardly put a foot wrong since he came in. Some conservatism in his play is be expected, and encouraged, but he was pinging some lovely passes up the RW yesterday.
 
Yeah, very no-fuss, no-nonsense kind of player, which is what we need at the moment. Also, it has to be said, Gomez did exceptionally well to marshal the defensive line and help his younger partner out. Looks comfortable at LCB in particular, just need to hit those diagonal balls with a little less power...
 
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Seems composed which goes a long way. I suspect the fact he's played more competitive games that Koumetio / Phillips is what has him ahead in the ranks. Too early to say for what the ceiling is for Rhys vs Koumetio but he has been fine so far which is encouraging.
 
Seems composed which goes a long way. I suspect the fact he's played more competitive games that Koumetio / Phillips is what has him ahead in the ranks.

Well, it's slightly misleading, the comparison with Phillips. Phillips has played about twenty games for Stuttgart against some decent senior teams. Willams has played a few more (five or six more?) at a really low level. He's ahead of Phillips in the CL squad because Phillips was omitted while they tried to sell him. In terms of raw potential I think Koumetio at least looks far ahead, but Williams is an interesting prospect. He's not really been tested much, however, and I wouldn't want him to be tested yet against the top teams.
 
Yes, agreed on not yet putting them in against top teams. It would be delightful if Antonio's knock from their last game keeps him out for this one. Interesting point re: Phillips that I hadn't clocked.
 
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