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I thought Skrtel was really fucking shit and I would rank him 4.
The rest are fair Oncy, yeah.
The rest are fair Oncy, yeah.
Reina - 6 not much to actually save but occasionally shakey, occasionally good.
Kelly - 8 MOTM, as said. Held the player up well, good burst of pace on the attack, good eye for a pass and a cross.
Carra - 7 Steady and assured
Skrtel - 6.5 Started decent, shakey though for the most part
Konch - 3 All over the place and poor distribution and touch. Glared at a few times by team mates.
Meireles - 5 poor and subbed for whatever reason, didn't release the ball quick enough on a few occasions, out of position though.
Lucas - 5 Poor, gave the ball away, tried to do the Masher role of being everywhere, which only works for Masher.
Gerrard - 7 Hit and miss, some good some bad, still out most threatening player alongside Torres.
Maxi - 6 Some good touches, had Konch behind him who he had to constantly help out.
Kuyt - 5.5 Industrious, looked tired and short of it.
Torres - 7 Sharp again, worryingly fed up towards the end.
Shelvey - 6.5 Some great passes, you can see he's got the game intelligence and ball control, out of position though and edgy.
Poulsen - 5 Flattened in his first challenge and left for dead, got better but still not good enough though allowed Gerrard to escape forward more.
Ecclestone - N/A
Kelly - 8 MOTM, as said. Held the player up well, good burst of pace on the attack, good eye for a pass and a cross.
Carra - 7 Steady and assured
Skrtel - 6.5 Started decent, shakey though for the most part
Konch - 3 All over the place and poor distribution and touch. Glared at a few times by team mates.
Meireles - 5 poor and subbed for whatever reason, didn't release the ball quick enough on a few occasions, out of position though.
Lucas - 5 Poor, gave the ball away, tried to do the Masher role of being everywhere, which only works for Masher.
Gerrard - 7 Hit and miss, some good some bad, still out most threatening player alongside Torres.
Maxi - 6 Some good touches, had Konch behind him who he had to constantly help out.
Kuyt - 5.5 Industrious, looked tired and short of it.
Torres - 7 Sharp again, worryingly fed up towards the end.
Shelvey - 6.5 Some great passes, you can see he's got the game intelligence and ball control, out of position though and edgy.
Poulsen - 5 Flattened in his first challenge and left for dead, got better but still not good enough though allowed Gerrard to escape forward more.
Ecclestone - N/A
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Squiggles
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Konch did bail us out once, preventing a one on one with the keeper. He wasn't all bad.
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the_khl
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Shelvey made one of the worst performances I've seen in a Liverpool-shirt for quite some time. Hit a few good passes early on but boy he looked completely out of his depths.
He'll be fine I reckon but today he was very very poor.
So was the overall team performance mind.
He'll be fine I reckon but today he was very very poor.
So was the overall team performance mind.
[quote author=KHL link=topic=42699.msg1215716#msg1215716 date=1289427365]
Shelvey made one of the worst performances I've seen in a Liverpool-shirt for quite some time. Hit a few good passes early on but boy he looked completely out of his depths.
He'll be fine I reckon but today he was very very poor.
So was the overall team performance mind.
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Yeah he was poor, though that's what happens walking into a team that can't pass. He played a great ball to Torres though.
Shelvey made one of the worst performances I've seen in a Liverpool-shirt for quite some time. Hit a few good passes early on but boy he looked completely out of his depths.
He'll be fine I reckon but today he was very very poor.
So was the overall team performance mind.
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Yeah he was poor, though that's what happens walking into a team that can't pass. He played a great ball to Torres though.
[quote author=mark1975 link=topic=42699.msg1215720#msg1215720 date=1289427452]
[quote author=KHL link=topic=42699.msg1215716#msg1215716 date=1289427365]
Shelvey made one of the worst performances I've seen in a Liverpool-shirt for quite some time. Hit a few good passes early on but boy he looked completely out of his depths.
He'll be fine I reckon but today he was very very poor.
So was the overall team performance mind.
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Yeah he was poor, though that's what happens walking into a team that can't pass. He played a great ball to Torres though.
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Pretty sure it was Maxi who gave a great ball to Stevie. Don't remember any great balls played by Shelvey who looked more out of his depth than anyone I've seen in recent memory. Does have nice control but looked like a boy amongst men though he was constantly the focus of Pepe, Lucas, Stevie and Carra in terms of being given support.
[quote author=KHL link=topic=42699.msg1215716#msg1215716 date=1289427365]
Shelvey made one of the worst performances I've seen in a Liverpool-shirt for quite some time. Hit a few good passes early on but boy he looked completely out of his depths.
He'll be fine I reckon but today he was very very poor.
So was the overall team performance mind.
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Yeah he was poor, though that's what happens walking into a team that can't pass. He played a great ball to Torres though.
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Pretty sure it was Maxi who gave a great ball to Stevie. Don't remember any great balls played by Shelvey who looked more out of his depth than anyone I've seen in recent memory. Does have nice control but looked like a boy amongst men though he was constantly the focus of Pepe, Lucas, Stevie and Carra in terms of being given support.
Shelvey will find his feet at this level. I'm not worried.
To be very honest, this is not a bad result, considering how much some of our key players have played recently. I would have liked a win for sure. Gerrard should have sealed it with that wonder move.
I'm glad Meireles got some rest. I hope hodgson gives some of the key players some rest from training before the saturday game, and stick to the same team/tactics.
If we were a bit better with retaining possession we would have easily stuffed Wigan, and i'm going to naively blame it entirely on the tired legs of our key players.
To be very honest, this is not a bad result, considering how much some of our key players have played recently. I would have liked a win for sure. Gerrard should have sealed it with that wonder move.
I'm glad Meireles got some rest. I hope hodgson gives some of the key players some rest from training before the saturday game, and stick to the same team/tactics.
If we were a bit better with retaining possession we would have easily stuffed Wigan, and i'm going to naively blame it entirely on the tired legs of our key players.
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the_khl
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Reina - 6
Kelly - 6
Carra - 5
Skrtel - 5
Konchesky - 5
Lucas - 5
Gerrard - 6
Raul - 5
Kuyt - 6
Maxi - 6
Torres - 6
Jonjo - 1
Poulsen - 6
Eccleston - 6
Kelly - 6
Carra - 5
Skrtel - 5
Konchesky - 5
Lucas - 5
Gerrard - 6
Raul - 5
Kuyt - 6
Maxi - 6
Torres - 6
Jonjo - 1
Poulsen - 6
Eccleston - 6
[quote author=mark1975 link=topic=42699.msg1215935#msg1215935 date=1289469146]
[quote author=KHL link=topic=42699.msg1215920#msg1215920 date=1289468056]
Jonjo - 1
Poulsen - 6
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Jesus Christ, I fucking give up.
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So has everyone else.
[quote author=KHL link=topic=42699.msg1215920#msg1215920 date=1289468056]
Jonjo - 1
Poulsen - 6
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Jesus Christ, I fucking give up.
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So has everyone else.
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the_khl
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[quote author=mark1975 link=topic=42699.msg1215935#msg1215935 date=1289469146]
[quote author=KHL link=topic=42699.msg1215920#msg1215920 date=1289468056]
Jonjo - 1
Poulsen - 6
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Jesus Christ, I fucking give up.
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One was distinctively average the other was abysmal. What's not to agree upon? Give Poulsen 5 then and Shelvey 2 if you like.
[quote author=KHL link=topic=42699.msg1215920#msg1215920 date=1289468056]
Jonjo - 1
Poulsen - 6
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Jesus Christ, I fucking give up.
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One was distinctively average the other was abysmal. What's not to agree upon? Give Poulsen 5 then and Shelvey 2 if you like.
[quote author=mark1975 link=topic=42699.msg1215694#msg1215694 date=1289426695]
Reina - 6 not much to actually save but occasionally shakey, occasionally good.
Kelly - 8 MOTM, as said. Held the player up well, good burst of pace on the attack, good eye for a pass and a cross.
Carra - 7 Steady and assured
Skrtel - 6.5 Started decent, shakey though for the most part
Konch - 3 All over the place and poor distribution and touch. Glared at a few times by team mates.
Meireles - 5 poor and subbed for whatever reason, didn't release the ball quick enough on a few occasions, out of position though.
Lucas - 5 Poor, gave the ball away, tried to do the Masher role of being everywhere, which only works for Masher.
Gerrard - 7 Hit and miss, some good some bad, still out most threatening player alongside Torres.
Maxi - 6 Some good touches, had Konch behind him who he had to constantly help out.
Kuyt - 5.5 Industrious, looked tired and short of it.
Torres - 7 Sharp again, worryingly fed up towards the end.
Shelvey - 6.5 Some great passes, you can see he's got the game intelligence and ball control, out of position though and edgy.
Poulsen - 5 Flattened in his first challenge and left for dead, got better but still not good enough though allowed Gerrard to escape forward more.
Ecclestone - N/A
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6.5 for Shelvey is immensely generous. I have high hopes for him but he was a liability for much of the time he was there. Don't get me wrong, he needs these opportunities to develop, and I hope he gets more of them, but he misplaced so many passes that I started hoping that Lucas would take it off him.
Reina - 6 not much to actually save but occasionally shakey, occasionally good.
Kelly - 8 MOTM, as said. Held the player up well, good burst of pace on the attack, good eye for a pass and a cross.
Carra - 7 Steady and assured
Skrtel - 6.5 Started decent, shakey though for the most part
Konch - 3 All over the place and poor distribution and touch. Glared at a few times by team mates.
Meireles - 5 poor and subbed for whatever reason, didn't release the ball quick enough on a few occasions, out of position though.
Lucas - 5 Poor, gave the ball away, tried to do the Masher role of being everywhere, which only works for Masher.
Gerrard - 7 Hit and miss, some good some bad, still out most threatening player alongside Torres.
Maxi - 6 Some good touches, had Konch behind him who he had to constantly help out.
Kuyt - 5.5 Industrious, looked tired and short of it.
Torres - 7 Sharp again, worryingly fed up towards the end.
Shelvey - 6.5 Some great passes, you can see he's got the game intelligence and ball control, out of position though and edgy.
Poulsen - 5 Flattened in his first challenge and left for dead, got better but still not good enough though allowed Gerrard to escape forward more.
Ecclestone - N/A
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6.5 for Shelvey is immensely generous. I have high hopes for him but he was a liability for much of the time he was there. Don't get me wrong, he needs these opportunities to develop, and I hope he gets more of them, but he misplaced so many passes that I started hoping that Lucas would take it off him.
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the_khl
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[quote author=Delinquent link=topic=42699.msg1215957#msg1215957 date=1289470279]
[quote author=mark1975 link=topic=42699.msg1215694#msg1215694 date=1289426695]
Reina - 6 not much to actually save but occasionally shakey, occasionally good.
Kelly - 8 MOTM, as said. Held the player up well, good burst of pace on the attack, good eye for a pass and a cross.
Carra - 7 Steady and assured
Skrtel - 6.5 Started decent, shakey though for the most part
Konch - 3 All over the place and poor distribution and touch. Glared at a few times by team mates.
Meireles - 5 poor and subbed for whatever reason, didn't release the ball quick enough on a few occasions, out of position though.
Lucas - 5 Poor, gave the ball away, tried to do the Masher role of being everywhere, which only works for Masher.
Gerrard - 7 Hit and miss, some good some bad, still out most threatening player alongside Torres.
Maxi - 6 Some good touches, had Konch behind him who he had to constantly help out.
Kuyt - 5.5 Industrious, looked tired and short of it.
Torres - 7 Sharp again, worryingly fed up towards the end.
Shelvey - 6.5 Some great passes, you can see he's got the game intelligence and ball control, out of position though and edgy.
Poulsen - 5 Flattened in his first challenge and left for dead, got better but still not good enough though allowed Gerrard to escape forward more.
Ecclestone - N/A
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6.5 for Shelvey is immensely generous. I have high hopes for him but he was a liability for much of the time he was there. Don't get me wrong, he needs these opportunities to develop, and I hope he gets more of them, but he misplaced so many passes that I started hoping that Lucas would take it off him.
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Yeah... but he's English?
[quote author=mark1975 link=topic=42699.msg1215694#msg1215694 date=1289426695]
Reina - 6 not much to actually save but occasionally shakey, occasionally good.
Kelly - 8 MOTM, as said. Held the player up well, good burst of pace on the attack, good eye for a pass and a cross.
Carra - 7 Steady and assured
Skrtel - 6.5 Started decent, shakey though for the most part
Konch - 3 All over the place and poor distribution and touch. Glared at a few times by team mates.
Meireles - 5 poor and subbed for whatever reason, didn't release the ball quick enough on a few occasions, out of position though.
Lucas - 5 Poor, gave the ball away, tried to do the Masher role of being everywhere, which only works for Masher.
Gerrard - 7 Hit and miss, some good some bad, still out most threatening player alongside Torres.
Maxi - 6 Some good touches, had Konch behind him who he had to constantly help out.
Kuyt - 5.5 Industrious, looked tired and short of it.
Torres - 7 Sharp again, worryingly fed up towards the end.
Shelvey - 6.5 Some great passes, you can see he's got the game intelligence and ball control, out of position though and edgy.
Poulsen - 5 Flattened in his first challenge and left for dead, got better but still not good enough though allowed Gerrard to escape forward more.
Ecclestone - N/A
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6.5 for Shelvey is immensely generous. I have high hopes for him but he was a liability for much of the time he was there. Don't get me wrong, he needs these opportunities to develop, and I hope he gets more of them, but he misplaced so many passes that I started hoping that Lucas would take it off him.
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Yeah... but he's English?
Are you even going to try and go there? That I (and others on this board) are biased towards English players?
Here's some English players that I have truly despised at Liverpool in recent years: Kirkland, Tennants, Crouch.
So shut the fuck up.
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the_khl
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[quote author=Brendan link=topic=42699.msg1215966#msg1215966 date=1289470919]
Are you even going to try and go there? That I (and others on this board) are biased towards English players?
Here's some English players that I have truly despised at Liverpool in recent years: Kirkland, Tennants, Crouch.
So shut the fuck up.
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You shut the fuck up Brendan.
I've backed about five Danish players to come good. Are you aware that there are thousands of them out there? A lot of 'cunts' and seriously bad players too. Piechnik was a joke and so has all the Danish keepers at the club been. I'm not even sure what Hansen is doing at our subs bench every time I've'seen him he's looked shaky and poor.
You've been wanting us to sign Lee 'Redcard' Cattermole for quite some time now and it certainly makes sense to me now. You must've seen something I didn't. Because of his nationality. Place of birth or something like that.
You are no better than me so stop acting like a saint.
Are you even going to try and go there? That I (and others on this board) are biased towards English players?
Here's some English players that I have truly despised at Liverpool in recent years: Kirkland, Tennants, Crouch.
So shut the fuck up.
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You shut the fuck up Brendan.
I've backed about five Danish players to come good. Are you aware that there are thousands of them out there? A lot of 'cunts' and seriously bad players too. Piechnik was a joke and so has all the Danish keepers at the club been. I'm not even sure what Hansen is doing at our subs bench every time I've'seen him he's looked shaky and poor.
You've been wanting us to sign Lee 'Redcard' Cattermole for quite some time now and it certainly makes sense to me now. You must've seen something I didn't. Because of his nationality. Place of birth or something like that.
You are no better than me so stop acting like a saint.
[quote author=KHL link=topic=42699.msg1215968#msg1215968 date=1289471202]
[quote author=Brendan link=topic=42699.msg1215966#msg1215966 date=1289470919]
Are you even going to try and go there? That I (and others on this board) are biased towards English players?
Here's some English players that I have truly despised at Liverpool in recent years: Kirkland, Tennants, Crouch.
So shut the fuck up.
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You shut the fuck up Brendan.
I've backed about five Danish players to come good. Are you aware that there are thousands of them out there? A lot of 'cunts' and seriously bad players too. Piechnik was a joke and so has all the Danish keepers at the club been. I'm not even sure what Hansen is doing at our subs bench every time I've'seen him he's looked shaky and poor.
You've been wanting us to sign Lee 'Redcard' Cattermole for quite some time now and it certainly makes sense to me now. You must've seen something I didn't. Because of his nationality. Place of birth or something like that.
You are no better than me so stop acting like a saint.
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So, you think if we asked around the site and the question was:
"Which poster is more biased towards players from their own country, Brendan or KHL?", that the result would be anything less than a landslide?
[quote author=Brendan link=topic=42699.msg1215966#msg1215966 date=1289470919]
Are you even going to try and go there? That I (and others on this board) are biased towards English players?
Here's some English players that I have truly despised at Liverpool in recent years: Kirkland, Tennants, Crouch.
So shut the fuck up.
[/quote]
You shut the fuck up Brendan.
I've backed about five Danish players to come good. Are you aware that there are thousands of them out there? A lot of 'cunts' and seriously bad players too. Piechnik was a joke and so has all the Danish keepers at the club been. I'm not even sure what Hansen is doing at our subs bench every time I've'seen him he's looked shaky and poor.
You've been wanting us to sign Lee 'Redcard' Cattermole for quite some time now and it certainly makes sense to me now. You must've seen something I didn't. Because of his nationality. Place of birth or something like that.
You are no better than me so stop acting like a saint.
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So, you think if we asked around the site and the question was:
"Which poster is more biased towards players from their own country, Brendan or KHL?", that the result would be anything less than a landslide?
Lucas and Insua have been consistently shite.
Shelvey has had one bad game.
Shelvey has had one bad game.
[quote author=Brendan link=topic=42699.msg1215970#msg1215970 date=1289471447]
[quote author=KHL link=topic=42699.msg1215968#msg1215968 date=1289471202]
[quote author=Brendan link=topic=42699.msg1215966#msg1215966 date=1289470919]
Are you even going to try and go there? That I (and others on this board) are biased towards English players?
Here's some English players that I have truly despised at Liverpool in recent years: Kirkland, Tennants, Crouch.
So shut the fuck up.
[/quote]
You shut the fuck up Brendan.
I've backed about five Danish players to come good. Are you aware that there are thousands of them out there? A lot of 'cunts' and seriously bad players too. Piechnik was a joke and so has all the Danish keepers at the club been. I'm not even sure what Hansen is doing at our subs bench every time I've'seen him he's looked shaky and poor.
You've been wanting us to sign Lee 'Redcard' Cattermole for quite some time now and it certainly makes sense to me now. You must've seen something I didn't. Because of his nationality. Place of birth or something like that.
You are no better than me so stop acting like a saint.
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So, you think if we asked around the site and the question was:
"Which poster is more biased towards players from their own country, Brendan or KHL?", that the result would be anything less than a landslide?
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Brendan focuses on shit players while watching games and KHL looks out for any danes on the pitch to sing praises .Games without shit players or danish ones must be a pain to watch.
[quote author=KHL link=topic=42699.msg1215968#msg1215968 date=1289471202]
[quote author=Brendan link=topic=42699.msg1215966#msg1215966 date=1289470919]
Are you even going to try and go there? That I (and others on this board) are biased towards English players?
Here's some English players that I have truly despised at Liverpool in recent years: Kirkland, Tennants, Crouch.
So shut the fuck up.
[/quote]
You shut the fuck up Brendan.
I've backed about five Danish players to come good. Are you aware that there are thousands of them out there? A lot of 'cunts' and seriously bad players too. Piechnik was a joke and so has all the Danish keepers at the club been. I'm not even sure what Hansen is doing at our subs bench every time I've'seen him he's looked shaky and poor.
You've been wanting us to sign Lee 'Redcard' Cattermole for quite some time now and it certainly makes sense to me now. You must've seen something I didn't. Because of his nationality. Place of birth or something like that.
You are no better than me so stop acting like a saint.
[/quote]
So, you think if we asked around the site and the question was:
"Which poster is more biased towards players from their own country, Brendan or KHL?", that the result would be anything less than a landslide?
[/quote]
Brendan focuses on shit players while watching games and KHL looks out for any danes on the pitch to sing praises .Games without shit players or danish ones must be a pain to watch.
I have been a supporter of plenty of players that have 'split opinion' among Liverpool fans:
Alonso, Kuyt, Riise, Magic, Bellamy, Kewell, Garcia, even Babel.
So that's not accurate at all. In any way.
Try again. Or rather, don't.
Alonso, Kuyt, Riise, Magic, Bellamy, Kewell, Garcia, even Babel.
So that's not accurate at all. In any way.
Try again. Or rather, don't.
KHL, it is unfair to give Shelvey one and Poulsen six. It doesn't make sense.
Shelvey is only a kid and found it tough playing out of position. He played a lovely ball to Torres which probably should have led to a goal. Poulsen on the other hand is a 31 year old vastly experienced player coming on in his favoured position and didn't contribute at all. Summing everything up, it isn't fair for one individual to get a rating of one and the other receives a six and that is why people are baffled by it.
I don't think posters are biased towards Jonjo only because he is English. I'm Irish (and have no bias towards English players) and don't agree with your ratings in this instance.
Shelvey is only a kid and found it tough playing out of position. He played a lovely ball to Torres which probably should have led to a goal. Poulsen on the other hand is a 31 year old vastly experienced player coming on in his favoured position and didn't contribute at all. Summing everything up, it isn't fair for one individual to get a rating of one and the other receives a six and that is why people are baffled by it.
I don't think posters are biased towards Jonjo only because he is English. I'm Irish (and have no bias towards English players) and don't agree with your ratings in this instance.
[quote author=Herr Onceared link=topic=42699.msg1216179#msg1216179 date=1289489193]
I dont think any english fans have bias towards our players i really dont at all.
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Hmm, I don't know if that's entirely true, I find myself willing on the likes of Kelly much more than I did someone like Insua. Obviously if they're playing for us, you want them all to do well, but I especially like to see young English players break through.
I dont think any english fans have bias towards our players i really dont at all.
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Hmm, I don't know if that's entirely true, I find myself willing on the likes of Kelly much more than I did someone like Insua. Obviously if they're playing for us, you want them all to do well, but I especially like to see young English players break through.
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the_khl
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[quote author=LadyRed link=topic=42699.msg1216191#msg1216191 date=1289490862]
[quote author=Herr Onceared link=topic=42699.msg1216179#msg1216179 date=1289489193]
I dont think any english fans have bias towards our players i really dont at all.
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Hmm, I don't know if that's entirely true, I find myself willing on the likes of Kelly much more than I did someone like Insua. Obviously if they're playing for us, you want them all to do well, but I especially like to see young English players break through.
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This was all I tried to say actually. And I really don't think there's anything wrong with it either.
[quote author=Herr Onceared link=topic=42699.msg1216179#msg1216179 date=1289489193]
I dont think any english fans have bias towards our players i really dont at all.
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Hmm, I don't know if that's entirely true, I find myself willing on the likes of Kelly much more than I did someone like Insua. Obviously if they're playing for us, you want them all to do well, but I especially like to see young English players break through.
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This was all I tried to say actually. And I really don't think there's anything wrong with it either.
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