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So, let's get this straight - "he was in full control this summer" despite there not being "anything to spend".
Rrrrrriiiiight.
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You've lost me Ryan.
I think you're completely misunderstanding me. Deliberately.
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no Ross, I'm simply pointint out the gaping holes in your flawed argument. "He had full control this summer" yet didn't "have anything to spend".
How was that full control?
I might use that argument with my missus. 'Honey, I'm in full control of purchasing your Xmas present. I've got no momeny like, but I'm still in full control of the situation. Would you like an Andriy Voronin in a box?'
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I've explained it to you Ryan - but once again, because you're being even more tedious than me, Rafa Benitez was given control of the buying and selling of players because nobody would second guess him and veto a deal like happened the previous summer (for our benefit).
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Ross, if you're argument wasn't so weak, I wouldn't need to be "an arse about it". I think you've recognised the holes in what you've put forward, hence your backtracking. It's clear Rafa wasn't in full control, hence the majority of the 30M going straight into paying off the fucking debt.
Why haven't you addressed the comment I made about not being impartial towards Benitez? You seem happy to give Rick fucking Parry undeserved credit.
You can debate with the best of them Ross, but you're continued one-eyed rants about Benitez are making you look idiotic.
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The reason I'm "backtracking" as you put it is because you are constantly misunderstanding me to suit yourself. You're well aware of what I meant, but because you have not been able to rebut any single piece of evidence I've put forward you've tried to drag this down to a simple twisting of the meaning.
I haven't answered your questions because you haven't got the courtesy to answer any of mine. Which is typical of you and it's why I don't generally get into debates with you. You're not capable of discussing things without trying to twist meanings, adding in snide comments in some sort of effort to win an argument. It's exactly this sort of nonsense we're trying to cut out on the forum, and really when I have to put up with this shite why should I bother posting out my full thoughts ? If I thought you were going to take things on board I'd go to the trouble of responding to you properly , like I did with Farkmaster. All you're going to do is focus on one tiny little aspect and repeat it over and over until I get fed up and go to bed. Then you'll claim victory when all you've done is annoy the fucking hell out of me. You haven't put a single decent argument together in the thread.
So here you go - am I impartial when it comes to Rafa ? Yes. To briefly summarise why ...... I think he's a manager who's philosophy on football is all wrong. He is unable to build and keep a squad happy. He is extremely wasteful with the resources he's been given. I think we'd be better off without him in the short and long term. I think Steven Gerrard and luck are the reasons why we won trophies and I think Rafa is a better manager when he has fewer choices to make because he tends to overcomplicate things.
Do you want to go back and answer my questions ?
Rick Parry refused to sanction a deal for Alonso at a cut price, that's the reason Xabi was with us last season. Xabi was excellent for us last season. Hence I'm glad Rick Parry refused to sanction the deal, and I think it's deserving of credit. He acted on what he thought was best for the club, he turned out to be right and he got sacked ultimately because of it.
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Really Ross, you were giving it the big one just before threatening people with warnings in accrodance with "the forum's new principles" then you go ahead and attack me in exactly the same manner.
1 - You're flip-flopping about like mad. It's hard to actually construe what your main point is that there's that fucking many of them. 'He is in control, but not of the budget, he didn't have money to spend, and he should have known that blah blah blah' and then a whole fucking heap of opinions dressed up as facts; "he's lost the dressing room" - Would you like me to c & p all ou current footballers claiming this to be shit? What about yesterday's "He picked Kewell over Didi" effort? We won that Champions League Final, due in no small part to Benitez, yet you're so fucking wound up by him you can't see the wood for the trees. "He's relying on Gerrard and luck" - Yes Ross, despite the fact we played most of last season without our two best players playing togethor, we still amassed more points than we've ever done in a League campaign. All down to luck I'm sure. "His philiosophy on football is all wrong" - what does that even mean? He's won every trophy in the game bar the Premier League. Fuck I could go on.
2 - Is it irritating you that just about everyone's lining up to point out you've been a bit quackers of late?
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Everyone else in the thread seems to understand what I'm saying, is it really that hard for you to understand ? I haven't flip flopped at all, I've tried to clear up a misunderstanding you're having but you don't seem to want to listen.
Again you've failed to discuss any of the points I've made in the thread, rather pretty much confirming that what I posted about you is absolutely spot on. All you've done is commentate on how you think this thread is going, you've got no arguments with anything I've actually said. You're only response is to make up an argument you think I've made and argue against it and then have a pop at me.
You're even attributing things I've never said to me, which isn't a new thing either.
Ryan it's been pretty clear you don't understand the posting principles, since you somehow thought it wasn't okay to call Lassana Diarra a cunt. So in that respect it's probably best not to talk about them.
One of the other things actually that was suggested by some of the lads recently was that we wouldn't put up with any questioning of moderator decisions and that anyone who was constantly niggling at someone would get a ban.
In that regard you'll have no trouble understanding if you end up with a day off very soon.
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Let's get a moderator consensus then.
How many of the mods believe I should be banned for what I've typed in this thread?
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2 points.
1. If I thought you deserved a ban for what you posted, you would have been banned.
2. You got a warning. Take it and learn from it, posting in a deliberate attempt to wind someone up won't be tolerated. Next time you will get ban.
