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Oncy - Since the list is open, can I get re-instated?
Hold your horses. Chelsea is gonna buy buy buy.... spree
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Until it becomes mathematically impossible, I have faith that we can* do the league, FA cup and Champions league treble.
* not
* not
Our only chance of silverware this year is the FA Cup.
If we don't win something this year it will be at least 5 years since our last trophy :'(
Simply not good enough.
Rafa better pray he gets everyone fit to win the Fa Cup.
If we don't win something this year it will be at least 5 years since our last trophy :'(
Simply not good enough.
Rafa better pray he gets everyone fit to win the Fa Cup.
[quote author=Dreambeliever link=topic=37228.msg990120#msg990120 date=1258431511]
Our only chance of silverware this year is the FA Cup.
If we don't win something this year it will be at least 5 years since our last trophy :'(
Simply not good enough.
Rafa better pray he gets everyone fit to win the Fa Cup.
[/quote]
Dreamy. Please please please please please please please please please please - STOP using the phrase "simply not good enough".
Move on to "ticks all the boxes" for heaven's sake.
Our only chance of silverware this year is the FA Cup.
If we don't win something this year it will be at least 5 years since our last trophy :'(
Simply not good enough.
Rafa better pray he gets everyone fit to win the Fa Cup.
[/quote]
Dreamy. Please please please please please please please please please please - STOP using the phrase "simply not good enough".
Move on to "ticks all the boxes" for heaven's sake.
[quote author=Dirty Sanchez link=topic=37228.msg990131#msg990131 date=1258432620]
[quote author=Dreambeliever link=topic=37228.msg990120#msg990120 date=1258431511]
Our only chance of silverware this year is the FA Cup.
If we don't win something this year it will be at least 5 years since our last trophy :'(
Simply not good enough.
Rafa better pray he gets everyone fit to win the Fa Cup.
[/quote]
Dreamy. Please please please please please please please please please please - STOP using the phrase "simply not good enough".
Move on to "ticks all the boxes" for heaven's sake.
[/quote]
You're punching above your weight there Sanchez, you gotta take it one game at a time with Dreamy. Keep it tight early doors, then do your talking on the pitch. You'll get over the line with him if you give it 110%. It's usually a game of two halves, but Dreamy's got his first 5 yards in his head what with being a downhill skier.
[quote author=Dreambeliever link=topic=37228.msg990120#msg990120 date=1258431511]
Our only chance of silverware this year is the FA Cup.
If we don't win something this year it will be at least 5 years since our last trophy :'(
Simply not good enough.
Rafa better pray he gets everyone fit to win the Fa Cup.
[/quote]
Dreamy. Please please please please please please please please please please - STOP using the phrase "simply not good enough".
Move on to "ticks all the boxes" for heaven's sake.
[/quote]
You're punching above your weight there Sanchez, you gotta take it one game at a time with Dreamy. Keep it tight early doors, then do your talking on the pitch. You'll get over the line with him if you give it 110%. It's usually a game of two halves, but Dreamy's got his first 5 yards in his head what with being a downhill skier.
[quote author=Ryan link=topic=37228.msg990133#msg990133 date=1258432964]
[quote author=Dirty Sanchez link=topic=37228.msg990131#msg990131 date=1258432620]
[quote author=Dreambeliever link=topic=37228.msg990120#msg990120 date=1258431511]
Our only chance of silverware this year is the FA Cup.
If we don't win something this year it will be at least 5 years since our last trophy :'(
Simply not good enough.
Rafa better pray he gets everyone fit to win the Fa Cup.
[/quote]
Dreamy. Please please please please please please please please please please - STOP using the phrase "simply not good enough".
Move on to "ticks all the boxes" for heaven's sake.
[/quote]
You're punching above your weight there Sanchez, you gotta take it one game at a time with Dreamy. Keep it tight early doors, then do your talking on the pitch. You'll get over the line with him if you give it 110%. It's usually a game of two halves, but Dreamy's got his first 5 yards in his head what with being a downhill skier.
[/quote]
Triffic.
[quote author=Dirty Sanchez link=topic=37228.msg990131#msg990131 date=1258432620]
[quote author=Dreambeliever link=topic=37228.msg990120#msg990120 date=1258431511]
Our only chance of silverware this year is the FA Cup.
If we don't win something this year it will be at least 5 years since our last trophy :'(
Simply not good enough.
Rafa better pray he gets everyone fit to win the Fa Cup.
[/quote]
Dreamy. Please please please please please please please please please please - STOP using the phrase "simply not good enough".
Move on to "ticks all the boxes" for heaven's sake.
[/quote]
You're punching above your weight there Sanchez, you gotta take it one game at a time with Dreamy. Keep it tight early doors, then do your talking on the pitch. You'll get over the line with him if you give it 110%. It's usually a game of two halves, but Dreamy's got his first 5 yards in his head what with being a downhill skier.
[/quote]
Triffic.
This article provides great insight into Rafa, the man!
Rafael Benitez: I can walk through Anfield storm
November can be grim on Merseyside. It is barely past lunchtime and darkness is falling nearly as heavily as the rain. There is a gloom around Liverpool’s academy in Kirkby that mirrors the state of the club.
The team are seventh in the Barclays Premier League after five defeats in 12 games — they lost just twice last season — and on the verge of an exit from the Champions League. The mood is downbeat.
Enter Rafael BenÃtez and in an instant the academy staff are bathing in a little Spanish sunshine. Beaming a huge smile, he sweeps out of the rain in a flurry of backslaps, handshakes and hugs. This is no icy analyst. He is relaxed, in casual trousers and a V-necked pullover, and at ease with his world.
The acres of critical newsprint, the hours of Rafa-bashing on the phone-ins, have not shaken his confidence. He sits in an office, with its balcony overlooking the windswept training pitches, like a man secure about his domain.
But football clubs never sit still. They are either moving forwards or sliding backwards. Which direction are Liverpool heading? BenÃtez is not backwards about coming forward.
“In 2004 the squad was worth, what, £100 million? Now perhaps we have one player worth that,†he says. “The whole squad? Maybe £250 million.
“The club was nearly sold for £85 million five years ago. Now the price is £500 million. We must be doing something right.
“We are much better now than we were three or four years ago in every single thing — in the commercial department, the marketing department, in football.
“The majority of the fans, especially the ones who go to the stadium, realise the team is working and improving, and is better than before. To achieve 86 points in the league last season is part of the progression. The direction of the club is right. But everyone wants to win and we are disappointed when we don’t win any game or any trophy.â€
The poor start to the season has brought a maelstrom of criticism, but BenÃtez feels that few observers understand the full scale of the job at Anfield.
His tenure in the manager’s chair has been played out against a backdrop of behind-the-scenes turmoil. Financial problems and a lack of support from senior club officials have hampered his efforts. The irony is that the recent blip in form has come during the most stable period of his 5½-year term.
A new five-year contract, signed in February, gave the Spaniard control over the academy and the appointment of Christian Purslow as chief executive in the summer provided backup in the boardroom.
This has not always been the case. Two years ago, George Gillett Jr and Tom Hicks, the owners, approached Jürgen Klinsmann about the possibility of replacing BenÃtez. Even before that, the manager’s relationship with Rick Parry, the former chief executive, was uneasy. Parry’s conservative nature clashed with BenÃtez’s aggressive attitude in the transfer market and many of the top targets went unsigned.
“You prepare your list of players and have No 1 target, No 2, then the third one,†BenÃtez says. “If you lose the first one, normally they’ve signed for another English club. If you lose them to your rivals, it’s worse. Every year you have to work very hard to be ready and sometimes another team gets there first. It is frustrating.â€
That frustration is underlined every time Gareth Barry, Florent Malouda or Nemanja Vidic turn out against Liverpool, but the loss of Aaron Ramsey to Arsenal is particularly galling.
BenÃtez had agreed a deal to sign the talented young midfield player from Cardiff City for a £1.5m initial fee, with a similar amount to follow, but the transaction stalled at board level before Arsenal came in with a £5m bid.
The emphasis on youthful talent is no surprise. “When I arrived we had a lot of players we needed to change,†BenÃtez says. “We had to replace these players year on year. The first team were bad and it was the worse for the reserves.
“So we had to buy fringe players and take a gamble. Some of these players have been good and some not good enough for us. It’s a risk you have to accept when you have not got too much money available. The problem started at the academy. We weren’t producing players.â€
The production line that served up Robbie Fowler, Steve McManaman, Michael Owen, Steven Gerrard and Jamie Carragher had ground to a halt. Steve Heighway, the academy director, was replaced by Frank McParland and BenÃtez took a hands-on role.
“This is the first year of my second five years and the first time I can have some influence in the academy,†he says. “We are trying to build something and leave a legacy for the future.
“When we talk about the young players we’ve brought in, the cost for them is about £5m. Players like Gulacsi, Pacheco, Ayala, Ngog, Insúa. The value of Insúa in the marketplace now would pay for all the signing of the young players in the last five years. We had to build foundations so we can win in the future.†The shortage of young Scousers coming through the ranks aggravates the manager, however.
“I want to see the academy producing local players,†BenÃtez says. “We didn’t produce too many so we had to look elsewhere to be able to find the new generation of players that will be at the heart of the team and the club. We need local players.â€
A shrew move was to bring back Kenny Dalglish to assist at Kirkby. The iconic former player and manager is performing a number of roles and the manager is delighted to have him involved. “He was a good signing, no?†BenÃtez says with a twinkle.
“He is someone who knows the club, has a very good mentality and is strong enough mentally to defend the club as an ambassador. With his role in the academy, he attracts players.â€
But BenÃtez knows how important it is to start winning soon. Will his team bounce back and earn a Champions League place at the end of the season? “I have a lot of confidence we will finish in the top four,†he says. “But my target is the next game. It is easier for me to give confidence to the players if we get three points against Manchester City [on Saturday].â€
BenÃtez is notorious for his long working hours and attention to detail, so how does he cope with defeat? “When you lose or draw you go home disappointed,†he says. “But you can’t get too low because it is important to me to go to Melwood, be strong and pick up the players.
“I have a lot of confidence and that gets bigger when I talk to fans. They say, ‘Keep going, keep smiling’. Can we be better? Yes. We will be better.â€
And then he is ready to go. In the foyer, one of the boys’ teams are coming in from the rain. They hold back a little, nervous to approach the boss, but he beckons them over, asking the name of each.
One is from Brazil and BenÃtez addresses him in Portuguese and begins a conversation about the beach in Rio. The boys all laugh and the mood is lifted. It’s a knack BenÃtez has. Imagine how much fun everyone will have when his side start winning.
Rafael Benitez: I can walk through Anfield storm
November can be grim on Merseyside. It is barely past lunchtime and darkness is falling nearly as heavily as the rain. There is a gloom around Liverpool’s academy in Kirkby that mirrors the state of the club.
The team are seventh in the Barclays Premier League after five defeats in 12 games — they lost just twice last season — and on the verge of an exit from the Champions League. The mood is downbeat.
Enter Rafael BenÃtez and in an instant the academy staff are bathing in a little Spanish sunshine. Beaming a huge smile, he sweeps out of the rain in a flurry of backslaps, handshakes and hugs. This is no icy analyst. He is relaxed, in casual trousers and a V-necked pullover, and at ease with his world.
The acres of critical newsprint, the hours of Rafa-bashing on the phone-ins, have not shaken his confidence. He sits in an office, with its balcony overlooking the windswept training pitches, like a man secure about his domain.
But football clubs never sit still. They are either moving forwards or sliding backwards. Which direction are Liverpool heading? BenÃtez is not backwards about coming forward.
“In 2004 the squad was worth, what, £100 million? Now perhaps we have one player worth that,†he says. “The whole squad? Maybe £250 million.
“The club was nearly sold for £85 million five years ago. Now the price is £500 million. We must be doing something right.
“We are much better now than we were three or four years ago in every single thing — in the commercial department, the marketing department, in football.
“The majority of the fans, especially the ones who go to the stadium, realise the team is working and improving, and is better than before. To achieve 86 points in the league last season is part of the progression. The direction of the club is right. But everyone wants to win and we are disappointed when we don’t win any game or any trophy.â€
The poor start to the season has brought a maelstrom of criticism, but BenÃtez feels that few observers understand the full scale of the job at Anfield.
His tenure in the manager’s chair has been played out against a backdrop of behind-the-scenes turmoil. Financial problems and a lack of support from senior club officials have hampered his efforts. The irony is that the recent blip in form has come during the most stable period of his 5½-year term.
A new five-year contract, signed in February, gave the Spaniard control over the academy and the appointment of Christian Purslow as chief executive in the summer provided backup in the boardroom.
This has not always been the case. Two years ago, George Gillett Jr and Tom Hicks, the owners, approached Jürgen Klinsmann about the possibility of replacing BenÃtez. Even before that, the manager’s relationship with Rick Parry, the former chief executive, was uneasy. Parry’s conservative nature clashed with BenÃtez’s aggressive attitude in the transfer market and many of the top targets went unsigned.
“You prepare your list of players and have No 1 target, No 2, then the third one,†BenÃtez says. “If you lose the first one, normally they’ve signed for another English club. If you lose them to your rivals, it’s worse. Every year you have to work very hard to be ready and sometimes another team gets there first. It is frustrating.â€
That frustration is underlined every time Gareth Barry, Florent Malouda or Nemanja Vidic turn out against Liverpool, but the loss of Aaron Ramsey to Arsenal is particularly galling.
BenÃtez had agreed a deal to sign the talented young midfield player from Cardiff City for a £1.5m initial fee, with a similar amount to follow, but the transaction stalled at board level before Arsenal came in with a £5m bid.
The emphasis on youthful talent is no surprise. “When I arrived we had a lot of players we needed to change,†BenÃtez says. “We had to replace these players year on year. The first team were bad and it was the worse for the reserves.
“So we had to buy fringe players and take a gamble. Some of these players have been good and some not good enough for us. It’s a risk you have to accept when you have not got too much money available. The problem started at the academy. We weren’t producing players.â€
The production line that served up Robbie Fowler, Steve McManaman, Michael Owen, Steven Gerrard and Jamie Carragher had ground to a halt. Steve Heighway, the academy director, was replaced by Frank McParland and BenÃtez took a hands-on role.
“This is the first year of my second five years and the first time I can have some influence in the academy,†he says. “We are trying to build something and leave a legacy for the future.
“When we talk about the young players we’ve brought in, the cost for them is about £5m. Players like Gulacsi, Pacheco, Ayala, Ngog, Insúa. The value of Insúa in the marketplace now would pay for all the signing of the young players in the last five years. We had to build foundations so we can win in the future.†The shortage of young Scousers coming through the ranks aggravates the manager, however.
“I want to see the academy producing local players,†BenÃtez says. “We didn’t produce too many so we had to look elsewhere to be able to find the new generation of players that will be at the heart of the team and the club. We need local players.â€
A shrew move was to bring back Kenny Dalglish to assist at Kirkby. The iconic former player and manager is performing a number of roles and the manager is delighted to have him involved. “He was a good signing, no?†BenÃtez says with a twinkle.
“He is someone who knows the club, has a very good mentality and is strong enough mentally to defend the club as an ambassador. With his role in the academy, he attracts players.â€
But BenÃtez knows how important it is to start winning soon. Will his team bounce back and earn a Champions League place at the end of the season? “I have a lot of confidence we will finish in the top four,†he says. “But my target is the next game. It is easier for me to give confidence to the players if we get three points against Manchester City [on Saturday].â€
BenÃtez is notorious for his long working hours and attention to detail, so how does he cope with defeat? “When you lose or draw you go home disappointed,†he says. “But you can’t get too low because it is important to me to go to Melwood, be strong and pick up the players.
“I have a lot of confidence and that gets bigger when I talk to fans. They say, ‘Keep going, keep smiling’. Can we be better? Yes. We will be better.â€
And then he is ready to go. In the foyer, one of the boys’ teams are coming in from the rain. They hold back a little, nervous to approach the boss, but he beckons them over, asking the name of each.
One is from Brazil and BenÃtez addresses him in Portuguese and begins a conversation about the beach in Rio. The boys all laugh and the mood is lifted. It’s a knack BenÃtez has. Imagine how much fun everyone will have when his side start winning.
[quote author=Ryan link=topic=37228.msg990133#msg990133 date=1258432964]
[quote author=Dirty Sanchez link=topic=37228.msg990131#msg990131 date=1258432620]
[quote author=Dreambeliever link=topic=37228.msg990120#msg990120 date=1258431511]
Our only chance of silverware this year is the FA Cup.
If we don't win something this year it will be at least 5 years since our last trophy :'(
Simply not good enough.
Rafa better pray he gets everyone fit to win the Fa Cup.
[/quote]
Dreamy. Please please please please please please please please please please - STOP using the phrase "simply not good enough".
Move on to "ticks all the boxes" for heaven's sake.
[/quote]
You're punching above your weight there Sanchez, you gotta take it one game at a time with Dreamy. Keep it tight early doors, then do your talking on the pitch. You'll get over the line with him if you give it 110%. It's usually a game of two halves, but Dreamy's got his first 5 yards in his head what with being a downhill skier.
[/quote]
haha
[quote author=Dirty Sanchez link=topic=37228.msg990131#msg990131 date=1258432620]
[quote author=Dreambeliever link=topic=37228.msg990120#msg990120 date=1258431511]
Our only chance of silverware this year is the FA Cup.
If we don't win something this year it will be at least 5 years since our last trophy :'(
Simply not good enough.
Rafa better pray he gets everyone fit to win the Fa Cup.
[/quote]
Dreamy. Please please please please please please please please please please - STOP using the phrase "simply not good enough".
Move on to "ticks all the boxes" for heaven's sake.
[/quote]
You're punching above your weight there Sanchez, you gotta take it one game at a time with Dreamy. Keep it tight early doors, then do your talking on the pitch. You'll get over the line with him if you give it 110%. It's usually a game of two halves, but Dreamy's got his first 5 yards in his head what with being a downhill skier.
[/quote]
haha
[quote author=Ryan link=topic=37228.msg990123#msg990123 date=1258431781]
[quote author=Dreambeliever link=topic=37228.msg990120#msg990120 date=1258431511]
Our only chance of silverware this year is the FA Cup.
If we don't win something this year it will be at least 5 years since our last trophy :'(
[/quote]
No Dreamy, it won't.
[/quote]
If we won't win one this tear it will be 2011 before the next one.
Our last was 2006/
[quote author=Dreambeliever link=topic=37228.msg990120#msg990120 date=1258431511]
Our only chance of silverware this year is the FA Cup.
If we don't win something this year it will be at least 5 years since our last trophy :'(
[/quote]
No Dreamy, it won't.
[/quote]
If we won't win one this tear it will be 2011 before the next one.
Our last was 2006/
[quote author=Dirty Sanchez link=topic=37228.msg990131#msg990131 date=1258432620]
[quote author=Dreambeliever link=topic=37228.msg990120#msg990120 date=1258431511]
Our only chance of silverware this year is the FA Cup.
If we don't win something this year it will be at least 5 years since our last trophy :'(
Simply not good enough.
Rafa better pray he gets everyone fit to win the Fa Cup.
[/quote]
Dreamy. Please please please please please please please please please please - STOP using the phrase "simply not good enough".
Move on to "ticks all the boxes" for heaven's sake.
[/quote]
Fine. Rafa was brought in to win the league and trophies and he's done either now for a very long time.
[quote author=Dreambeliever link=topic=37228.msg990120#msg990120 date=1258431511]
Our only chance of silverware this year is the FA Cup.
If we don't win something this year it will be at least 5 years since our last trophy :'(
Simply not good enough.
Rafa better pray he gets everyone fit to win the Fa Cup.
[/quote]
Dreamy. Please please please please please please please please please please - STOP using the phrase "simply not good enough".
Move on to "ticks all the boxes" for heaven's sake.
[/quote]
Fine. Rafa was brought in to win the league and trophies and he's done either now for a very long time.
[quote author=Ryan link=topic=37228.msg990133#msg990133 date=1258432964]
[quote author=Dirty Sanchez link=topic=37228.msg990131#msg990131 date=1258432620]
[quote author=Dreambeliever link=topic=37228.msg990120#msg990120 date=1258431511]
Our only chance of silverware this year is the FA Cup.
If we don't win something this year it will be at least 5 years since our last trophy :'(
Simply not good enough.
Rafa better pray he gets everyone fit to win the Fa Cup.
[/quote]
Dreamy. Please please please please please please please please please please - STOP using the phrase "simply not good enough".
Move on to "ticks all the boxes" for heaven's sake.
[/quote]
You're punching above your weight there Sanchez, you gotta take it one game at a time with Dreamy. Keep it tight early doors, then do your talking on the pitch. You'll get over the line with him if you give it 110%. It's usually a game of two halves, but Dreamy's got his first 5 yards in his head what with being a downhill skier.
[/quote]
Or maybe after we get spanked yet again you could post an enlightening post on tactics and how fine lines injuries and luck were undoing? Or how Lucas is a quality player or that Rafa's tactics were spot on.
Sometimes the simpliest answer is the correct one.
Every single person rounded on me for being a negative cnut on here and your were especially so.
It must cut you that someone so stupid obviously can see the blindingly obvious long before you. I wonder how long its going to take for you to turn and see the sh*t we are in at the moment.
Nobody is going to give two hoots to claims of injuries or bad luck if we finishe 5th and end up in the Europa cup in 2 weeks time.
We need to start winning alot of games and only the most optimistic fan could see that happening with any sort of conviction.
[quote author=Dirty Sanchez link=topic=37228.msg990131#msg990131 date=1258432620]
[quote author=Dreambeliever link=topic=37228.msg990120#msg990120 date=1258431511]
Our only chance of silverware this year is the FA Cup.
If we don't win something this year it will be at least 5 years since our last trophy :'(
Simply not good enough.
Rafa better pray he gets everyone fit to win the Fa Cup.
[/quote]
Dreamy. Please please please please please please please please please please - STOP using the phrase "simply not good enough".
Move on to "ticks all the boxes" for heaven's sake.
[/quote]
You're punching above your weight there Sanchez, you gotta take it one game at a time with Dreamy. Keep it tight early doors, then do your talking on the pitch. You'll get over the line with him if you give it 110%. It's usually a game of two halves, but Dreamy's got his first 5 yards in his head what with being a downhill skier.
[/quote]
Or maybe after we get spanked yet again you could post an enlightening post on tactics and how fine lines injuries and luck were undoing? Or how Lucas is a quality player or that Rafa's tactics were spot on.
Sometimes the simpliest answer is the correct one.
Every single person rounded on me for being a negative cnut on here and your were especially so.
It must cut you that someone so stupid obviously can see the blindingly obvious long before you. I wonder how long its going to take for you to turn and see the sh*t we are in at the moment.
Nobody is going to give two hoots to claims of injuries or bad luck if we finishe 5th and end up in the Europa cup in 2 weeks time.
We need to start winning alot of games and only the most optimistic fan could see that happening with any sort of conviction.
[quote author=Dreambeliever link=topic=37228.msg990148#msg990148 date=1258437705]
Fine. Rafa was brought in to win the league and trophies and he's done either now for a very long time.
[/quote]
Yea, the horse-drawn team carriage hasn't been seen in Liverpool for many a year.
Fine. Rafa was brought in to win the league and trophies and he's done either now for a very long time.
[/quote]
Yea, the horse-drawn team carriage hasn't been seen in Liverpool for many a year.
[quote author=Farkmaster link=topic=37228.msg990153#msg990153 date=1258438280]
[quote author=Dreambeliever link=topic=37228.msg990148#msg990148 date=1258437705]
Fine. Rafa was brought in to win the league and trophies and he's done either now for a very long time.
[/quote]
Yea, the horse-drawn team carriage hasn't been seen in Liverpool for many a year.
[/quote]
Ha ha. Fair point but you know what I mean. It's already looking we will have to wait until at least 2011 for a trophy. Jesus even Evans and Souey managed the ratio a trophy every 4 years.
[quote author=Dreambeliever link=topic=37228.msg990148#msg990148 date=1258437705]
Fine. Rafa was brought in to win the league and trophies and he's done either now for a very long time.
[/quote]
Yea, the horse-drawn team carriage hasn't been seen in Liverpool for many a year.
[/quote]
Ha ha. Fair point but you know what I mean. It's already looking we will have to wait until at least 2011 for a trophy. Jesus even Evans and Souey managed the ratio a trophy every 4 years.
[quote author=Dreambeliever link=topic=37228.msg990151#msg990151 date=1258438220]
[quote author=Ryan link=topic=37228.msg990133#msg990133 date=1258432964]
[quote author=Dirty Sanchez link=topic=37228.msg990131#msg990131 date=1258432620]
[quote author=Dreambeliever link=topic=37228.msg990120#msg990120 date=1258431511]
Our only chance of silverware this year is the FA Cup.
If we don't win something this year it will be at least 5 years since our last trophy :'(
Simply not good enough.
Rafa better pray he gets everyone fit to win the Fa Cup.
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Dreamy. Please please please please please please please please please please - STOP using the phrase "simply not good enough".
Move on to "ticks all the boxes" for heaven's sake.
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You're punching above your weight there Sanchez, you gotta take it one game at a time with Dreamy. Keep it tight early doors, then do your talking on the pitch. You'll get over the line with him if you give it 110%. It's usually a game of two halves, but Dreamy's got his first 5 yards in his head what with being a downhill skier.
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Or maybe after we get spanked yet again you could post an enlightening post on tactics and how fine lines injuries and luck were undoing? Or how Lucas is a quality player or that Rafa's tactics were spot on.
Sometimes the simpliest answer is the correct one.
Every single person rounded on me for being a negative cnut on here and your were especially so.
It must cut you that someone so stupid obviously can see the blindingly obvious long before you. I wonder how long its going to take for you to turn and see the sh*t we are in at the moment.
Nobody is going to give two hoots to claims of injuries or bad luck if we finishe 5th and end up in the Europa cup in 2 weeks time.
We need to start winning alot of games and only the most optimistic fan could see that happening with any sort of conviction.
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It's not a case of optimism. We all know that if all our first team players are fit (or even most of them) then we can match the best. However when you have (e.g. at Fulham) 7 first team players missing and others limping through the game half fit it shows how badly we have been affected. It isn't just Gerrard & Torres, last year when they were out we still won big matches without them, but missing so many players through injury / suspension would hurt any team. We are far better than Citeh or Spurs and when the injury crisis passes we will string those wins together.
[quote author=Ryan link=topic=37228.msg990133#msg990133 date=1258432964]
[quote author=Dirty Sanchez link=topic=37228.msg990131#msg990131 date=1258432620]
[quote author=Dreambeliever link=topic=37228.msg990120#msg990120 date=1258431511]
Our only chance of silverware this year is the FA Cup.
If we don't win something this year it will be at least 5 years since our last trophy :'(
Simply not good enough.
Rafa better pray he gets everyone fit to win the Fa Cup.
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Dreamy. Please please please please please please please please please please - STOP using the phrase "simply not good enough".
Move on to "ticks all the boxes" for heaven's sake.
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You're punching above your weight there Sanchez, you gotta take it one game at a time with Dreamy. Keep it tight early doors, then do your talking on the pitch. You'll get over the line with him if you give it 110%. It's usually a game of two halves, but Dreamy's got his first 5 yards in his head what with being a downhill skier.
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Or maybe after we get spanked yet again you could post an enlightening post on tactics and how fine lines injuries and luck were undoing? Or how Lucas is a quality player or that Rafa's tactics were spot on.
Sometimes the simpliest answer is the correct one.
Every single person rounded on me for being a negative cnut on here and your were especially so.
It must cut you that someone so stupid obviously can see the blindingly obvious long before you. I wonder how long its going to take for you to turn and see the sh*t we are in at the moment.
Nobody is going to give two hoots to claims of injuries or bad luck if we finishe 5th and end up in the Europa cup in 2 weeks time.
We need to start winning alot of games and only the most optimistic fan could see that happening with any sort of conviction.
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It's not a case of optimism. We all know that if all our first team players are fit (or even most of them) then we can match the best. However when you have (e.g. at Fulham) 7 first team players missing and others limping through the game half fit it shows how badly we have been affected. It isn't just Gerrard & Torres, last year when they were out we still won big matches without them, but missing so many players through injury / suspension would hurt any team. We are far better than Citeh or Spurs and when the injury crisis passes we will string those wins together.
Personally I couldn't give a shit what Andy Hunter wrote or any other no mark Journalist. I find it far more interesting to hear the Gaffa in this type of interview for a change.
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Looks like the Rafa PR game is working well again. He has all you little lambs eating out of his hand again.
It's only a couple of weeks since Andy Hunter wrote about us that the mood in the Liverpool camp reminded him of Houllier's last season.
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Hmmm and Andy Hunter is The Word right ?
Looks like the Rafa PR game is working well again. He has all you little lambs eating out of his hand again.
It's only a couple of weeks since Andy Hunter wrote about us that the mood in the Liverpool camp reminded him of Houllier's last season.
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Hmmm and Andy Hunter is The Word right ?
[quote author=Rosco link=topic=37228.msg990156#msg990156 date=1258441290]
Looks like the Rafa PR game is working well again. He has all you little lambs eating out of his hand again.
It's only a couple of weeks since Andy Hunter wrote about us that the mood in the Liverpool camp reminded him of Houllier's last season.
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Please. First of all, everyone down on Rafa, from Andy Hunter to internet warriors make lazy comparisons to Houllier. It's just a superficial ready made comparison that holds no weight. I didn't buy that doom mongering, nor do I buy this sympathetic effort to make him seem supremely confident amidst all the stress. You don't need investigative journalism (and you won't get it) to see that something has to give if results continue, it is written on Rafa's face.
I also happen to think you expose your bias if you can't feel some sympathy for the man. Let's say he doesn't win another game, Rafa is replaced a month from now. The replacement enjoys the return of several players from injury, Aquilani works out, and he is dutifully afforded money to make the team his in the transfer market. If you aren't, amongst all your relief, sparing a thought for the man that brought the team to the point where getting ko'd from the group stages of the CL was a disgrace, and made the most significant title challenge in years, only to be denied money the summer after we were so close, I think you are on the other extreme, even if you don't like the man and can itemize all his failings.
Looks like the Rafa PR game is working well again. He has all you little lambs eating out of his hand again.
It's only a couple of weeks since Andy Hunter wrote about us that the mood in the Liverpool camp reminded him of Houllier's last season.
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Please. First of all, everyone down on Rafa, from Andy Hunter to internet warriors make lazy comparisons to Houllier. It's just a superficial ready made comparison that holds no weight. I didn't buy that doom mongering, nor do I buy this sympathetic effort to make him seem supremely confident amidst all the stress. You don't need investigative journalism (and you won't get it) to see that something has to give if results continue, it is written on Rafa's face.
I also happen to think you expose your bias if you can't feel some sympathy for the man. Let's say he doesn't win another game, Rafa is replaced a month from now. The replacement enjoys the return of several players from injury, Aquilani works out, and he is dutifully afforded money to make the team his in the transfer market. If you aren't, amongst all your relief, sparing a thought for the man that brought the team to the point where getting ko'd from the group stages of the CL was a disgrace, and made the most significant title challenge in years, only to be denied money the summer after we were so close, I think you are on the other extreme, even if you don't like the man and can itemize all his failings.
'Meet The New Boss, Same As The Old Boss'
And
'Thanks For The Champion's League - now fuck off'
I am Mystic Meg AICM £5
Also, while dreamy would struggle to construct a coherent sentence with a Duplo 'sentence construction' Kit, he does make the occasional salient point
And
'Thanks For The Champion's League - now fuck off'
I am Mystic Meg AICM £5
Also, while dreamy would struggle to construct a coherent sentence with a Duplo 'sentence construction' Kit, he does make the occasional salient point
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'Meet The New Boss, Same As The Old Boss'
And
'Thanks For The Champion's League - now fuck off'
I am Mystic Meg AICM £5
Also, while dreamy would struggle to construct a coherent sentence with a Duplo 'sentence construction' Kit, he does make the occasional salient point
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Short selling liverpool vs the expectation of liverpool supporters over the last 20 years hasn't required anything close to psychic ability. Cf. your constantly predicting that youth players won't make it.
'Meet The New Boss, Same As The Old Boss'
And
'Thanks For The Champion's League - now fuck off'
I am Mystic Meg AICM £5
Also, while dreamy would struggle to construct a coherent sentence with a Duplo 'sentence construction' Kit, he does make the occasional salient point
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Short selling liverpool vs the expectation of liverpool supporters over the last 20 years hasn't required anything close to psychic ability. Cf. your constantly predicting that youth players won't make it.
I'm getting another pyschic flash - you're a boring cunt and I don't give a fuck what you think
Wow! I should be charging for this!
Wow! I should be charging for this!
[quote author=Brendan link=topic=37228.msg990168#msg990168 date=1258444233]
I'm getting another pyschic flash - you're a boring cunt and I don't give a fuck what you think
Wow! I should be charging for this!
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If you could monetize insulting people and acting above it all, you'd certainly not have left in a strop, that's for sure.
I'm getting another pyschic flash - you're a boring cunt and I don't give a fuck what you think
Wow! I should be charging for this!
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If you could monetize insulting people and acting above it all, you'd certainly not have left in a strop, that's for sure.
rafa's talking shit as usual. we'll do well to finish top 4 this season never mind win the league, our fate in the champions league is no longer in our own hands and theonly reason we're still in the fa cup is because we haven't played in it yet.
any day now he'll give an interview about how much better the grass is now at anfield and why he's responsible or that.
any day now he'll give an interview about how much better the grass is now at anfield and why he's responsible or that.
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rafa's talking shit as usual. we'll do well to finish top 4 this season never mind win the league, our fate in the champions league is no longer in our own hands and theonly reason we're still in the fa cup is because we haven't played in it yet.
any day now he'll give an interview about how much better the grass is now at anfield and why he's responsible or that.
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Not long now...
rafa's talking shit as usual. we'll do well to finish top 4 this season never mind win the league, our fate in the champions league is no longer in our own hands and theonly reason we're still in the fa cup is because we haven't played in it yet.
any day now he'll give an interview about how much better the grass is now at anfield and why he's responsible or that.
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Not long now...
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[quote author=rage link=topic=37228.msg990178#msg990178 date=1258446465]
any day now he'll give an interview about how much better the grass is now at anfield and why he's responsible or that.
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Not long now...
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You wouldn't know the exact blade length would you?
[quote author=rage link=topic=37228.msg990178#msg990178 date=1258446465]
any day now he'll give an interview about how much better the grass is now at anfield and why he's responsible or that.
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Not long now...
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You wouldn't know the exact blade length would you?
[quote author=rage link=topic=37228.msg990178#msg990178 date=1258446465]
and theonly reason we're still in the fa cup is because we haven't played in it yet.
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hahahaha
and theonly reason we're still in the fa cup is because we haven't played in it yet.
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hahahaha
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