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Rafa manipulates the fans - Jamie Tight Pants

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[quote author=gkmacca link=topic=37380.msg996466#msg996466 date=1258999882]
I just wish you'd get back to discussing whther Rafa manipulates fans. It's like you're trying to avoid the subject.
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I never avoid the subject,
Im like Rafa, I talk about facts :🙂
He did try to manipulate the fans, a more and more larger part of the crowd are not buying his propaganda anymore.
The yanks gave him a very good contract and what he wanted. That leaves him short for excuses.
 
[quote author=gkmacca link=topic=37380.msg996470#msg996470 date=1259000685]
So what's your problem? You're in tune with the zeitgeist.
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You lost me here Macca, whats the zeitgeist? ???
What I said was quite clear I think.
I agree with most of what Jamie R. said.
 
[quote author=Le Chacal link=topic=37380.msg996486#msg996486 date=1259002215]
[quote author=gkmacca link=topic=37380.msg996470#msg996470 date=1259000685]
So what's your problem? You're in tune with the zeitgeist.
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You lost me here Macca, whats the zeitgeist? ???
What I said was quite clear I think.
I agree with most of what Jamie R. said.
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You said:
a more and more larger part of the crowd are not buying his propaganda anymore.

Okay. If that's so, why be so exercised about threads like this? Your job is done.
 
[quote author=KingDing link=topic=37380.msg996158#msg996158 date=1258969338]
Former Liverpool star Jamie Redknapp has questioned Rafael Benitez's management and claims that he manipulates the club's fans.

On the eve of Liverpool's crunch Champions League showdown in Hungary against Debrecen - where they could fail to reach the last 16 for the first time under Benitez - Redknapp offered a wide-ranging criticism of the Anfield boss.

Redknapp believes Benitez should abandon the controversial zonal marking system and questioned whether Fernando Torres will want to stay if Liverpool are only in the Europa League next season.

Redknapp, who played more than 300 games for the club between 1991 and 2002, said: "They have won one in 10 now and fans will be thinking. They are firmly behind him, though, he manipulates the fans, he gets them how he wants them.

"But there comes a time, if they go out of Europe this week and then lose at Everton, that the fans are swayed and will say that we have to look at him now.

"That team is not really going anywhere. The problem you will get is that will Fernando Torres want to play in the Europa League? I don't think so.

"If they don't get into the top four at the end of this season, it will be a major problem.

"You have huge problems going on behind the scenes with the owners, but it is too easy to blame that. On the pitch the players are not playing well enough, that's a fact."

On Liverpool's defensive problems, Redknapp was equally damning.

He added on Sky Sports: "A few years ago zonal marking was the best format because they were one of the best defenders from set pieces.

"But the reason for that was that they had Peter Crouch and Sami Hyypia, two guys who are 6ft 5in plus.

"It doesn't matter how you defend when the ball comes in, zonal or man to man, they will clear it. Now you have a situation where people are not taking responsibility.

"You might have to turn round and say that zonal isn't working, let's go man for man. At the moment he is giving players excuses, teams look at it and think they will score against Liverpool."

So let's see where JR is right.

Peter Crouch and Sami Hyypia are 6ft 5in plus - correct. But how many games did they play? Enough to say that our defense was better last season? Nope.

So if LFC go out of the CL and lose to Everton, fans will be swayed - correct (bordering on "No shit Sherlock&quot😉. But last time I checked, we still in it and haven't lost to Everton yet. Guess what if we're still in the CL and win against Everton - the fans may not be swayed! Shocka!

Fans are behind him even though it's 1 win in 10. Do you think that it's because the fans want to be behind him as they support the club? Or are they mindless idiots that can easily be manipulated? Seems like JR are calling the LFC fans a bunch of mindless idiots to me.

The players are not playing well enough - correct. How about the massive injury crisis we have and players are only returning to match fitness? Those same ol' mindless fans didn't register that one.

Major problem not finishing in top 4 - correct (again!!!). Same applies to other teams that don't finish in the top four.

Other than that, Le Chacal, JR is spot on.
 
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