Purslow talks.....
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It would be ironic if his name was Christian Spiritofshankly.
it would be ironic if we weren't still poor. although he has been brought in to change that..........
it's like rayeeian..........
it's like rayeeian..........
If someone gives him 100 mill for the club, then tucks a 25 mill wad into his breast pocket, then it'll be ironic.
purse of damocles.
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Reading that, either version, told me one thing: if Man City bid £100m for Torres in the summer, he'll be sold.
Maybe I should have known this anyway, but I didn't. I'm very sad at the thought.
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it's hard to think we wouldn't be better off if it was reinvested into the squad ( as unlikely as that would be ) but i'd still be dissapointed 'cos i'm slightly in love with him.
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We'd have to accept £100 million. No question.
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We'd have had to at least consider such a humungous offer at any time.
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Reading that, either version, told me one thing: if Man City bid £100m for Torres in the summer, he'll be sold.
Maybe I should have known this anyway, but I didn't. I'm very sad at the thought.
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it's hard to think we wouldn't be better off if it was reinvested into the squad ( as unlikely as that would be ) but i'd still be dissapointed 'cos i'm slightly in love with him.
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We'd have to accept £100 million. No question.
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We'd have had to at least consider such a humungous offer at any time.
It also disproves the theory that we have a huge pot of money saved up for the new boss and thats the reason Rafa did not get any money this Jan. So this shud put an end to Jose/ Hiddink/ Capello dreams.
I think if we accept a bid for Torres - He will reject it and then get pissed of with the management. End result being us forced to accept a lower bid for from Inter or AC.
I think if we accept a bid for Torres - He will reject it and then get pissed of with the management. End result being us forced to accept a lower bid for from Inter or AC.
from Christian Purslow's minutes
C.P. This January the manager has had plenty of funding available but has not chosen to bring anyone in other than Maxi Rodriguez, a full Argentinian international. And we will not sell players simply to leave money in the account-we need our assets on the pitch not in the bank so we are strong for the second half of the season. Rafa and I have spent more time in January talking about our summer transfer plans than the January window-which tells you all about what a thin market January actually is.
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C.P. This January the manager has had plenty of funding available but has not chosen to bring anyone in other than Maxi Rodriguez, a full Argentinian international. And we will not sell players simply to leave money in the account-we need our assets on the pitch not in the bank so we are strong for the second half of the season. Rafa and I have spent more time in January talking about our summer transfer plans than the January window-which tells you all about what a thin market January actually is.
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I don't agree anyway that a shortage of cash for new signings would necessarily scupper the chance of those big-name managers coming to us if Rafa does go. Capello was never in the frame (he's made it crystal clear that he won't be taking another job after England) but Hiddink and Mourinho are another matter. They've both said they'd like to come back to the Prem and Mourinho especially is a long-term admirer of LFC. I'm not saying a lack of money wouldn't worry them but it's easy to underestimate the attraction that the Liverpool job would hold, for Mourinho in particular.
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If Purslow and Bentitez spent the whole of January discussing summer targets, I doubt Bentitez is going anywhere for a while
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If Purslow and Bentitez spent the whole of January discussing summer targets, I doubt Bentitez is going anywhere for a while
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You're a gullible, naive, 12 year old virgin. Read between the lines.
If Purslow and Bentitez spent the whole of January discussing summer targets, I doubt Bentitez is going anywhere for a while
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You're a gullible, naive, 12 year old virgin. Read between the lines.
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If Purslow and Bentitez spent the whole of January discussing summer targets, I doubt Bentitez is going anywhere for a while
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You're a gullible, naive, 12 year old virgin. Read between the lines.
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You are on SCM now Doc.
You must be still thinking about the last conversation you had on the Hanna Montana website 😉
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If Purslow and Bentitez spent the whole of January discussing summer targets, I doubt Bentitez is going anywhere for a while
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You're a gullible, naive, 12 year old virgin. Read between the lines.
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You are on SCM now Doc.
You must be still thinking about the last conversation you had on the Hanna Montana website 😉
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If Purslow and Bentitez spent the whole of January discussing summer targets, I doubt Bentitez is going anywhere for a while
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You're a gullible, naive, 12 year old virgin. Read between the lines.
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Chaming as ever.
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If Purslow and Bentitez spent the whole of January discussing summer targets, I doubt Bentitez is going anywhere for a while
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You're a gullible, naive, 12 year old virgin. Read between the lines.
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Chaming as ever.
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If Purslow and Bentitez spent the whole of January discussing summer targets, I doubt Bentitez is going anywhere for a while
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You're a gullible, naive, 12 year old virgin. Read between the lines.
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Chaming as ever.
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You're a sensitive, gullible, naive, 12 year old virgin.
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If Purslow and Bentitez spent the whole of January discussing summer targets, I doubt Bentitez is going anywhere for a while
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You're a gullible, naive, 12 year old virgin. Read between the lines.
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Chaming as ever.
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You're a sensitive, gullible, naive, 12 year old virgin.
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If Purslow and Bentitez spent the whole of January discussing summer targets, I doubt Bentitez is going anywhere for a while
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You're a gullible, naive, 12 year old virgin. Read between the lines.
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Chaming as ever.
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You're a sensitive, gullible, naive, 12 year old virgin.
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Where did you learn how to groom?
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If Purslow and Bentitez spent the whole of January discussing summer targets, I doubt Bentitez is going anywhere for a while
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You're a gullible, naive, 12 year old virgin. Read between the lines.
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Chaming as ever.
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You're a sensitive, gullible, naive, 12 year old virgin.
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Where did you learn how to groom?
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If Purslow and Bentitez spent the whole of January discussing summer targets, I doubt Bentitez is going anywhere for a while
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You're a gullible, naive, 12 year old virgin. Read between the lines.
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Chaming as ever.
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You're a sensitive, gullible, naive, 12 year old virgin.
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Where did you learn how to groom?
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Started working the Boy Band forums and never looked back.
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If Purslow and Bentitez spent the whole of January discussing summer targets, I doubt Bentitez is going anywhere for a while
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You're a gullible, naive, 12 year old virgin. Read between the lines.
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Chaming as ever.
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You're a sensitive, gullible, naive, 12 year old virgin.
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Where did you learn how to groom?
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Started working the Boy Band forums and never looked back.
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If Purslow and Bentitez spent the whole of January discussing summer targets, I doubt Bentitez is going anywhere for a while
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You're a gullible, naive, 12 year old virgin. Read between the lines.
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You are on SCM now Doc.
You must be still thinking about the last conversation you had on the Hanna Montana website 😉
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Ha ha.
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[quote author=Squiggles link=topic=38759.msg1048230#msg1048230 date=1265135300]
If Purslow and Bentitez spent the whole of January discussing summer targets, I doubt Bentitez is going anywhere for a while
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You're a gullible, naive, 12 year old virgin. Read between the lines.
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You are on SCM now Doc.
You must be still thinking about the last conversation you had on the Hanna Montana website 😉
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Ha ha.
http://www.guillembalague.com/interview_desp.php?titulo=Christian+Purslow+on+Liverpool&id=77
Christian Purslow on Liverpool
I had the privilege of meeting Liverpool Football Club managing director Christian Purslow last week, for an interview published in today’s edition of the Spanish Newspaper AS.
I’m providing a link to the original text of the article here, as I believe that statements made to the foreign media will inevitably get picked up and redistributed somewhere on the internet – and out of respect for the subject, it is important that the context and full responses given in an interview such as this are available.
Guillem: What made you accept the role of MD at Liverpool?
Christian Purslow: I am a specialist in taking financially troubled companies forward. I`ve been a shareholder in Liverpool in the past, as well as a fan. I know the club. And I love it, but if I can`t see a way of improving it, I won`t interfere.
Guillem: Is your goal to sell Liverpool in its entirety or partially?
Purslow: When I arrived, along with the owners we decided we had to find new investors. On the one hand, we are one of the most famous clubs in the world and, secondly, many people want to be connected with us. We have 60,000 fans on the waiting list to become members as we build the new stadium, which will double our income. But we are experiencing the worst global financial crisis in living memory. We have people interested and would like to have it resolved before the season ends.
Guillem: What will you do if you do not get that investment?
Purslow: Then we`ll continue as we are. This is our Plan B: run the club in the most responsible way possible. We generate a healthy profit and fulfil our obligations, while remaining sufficiently competitive in the market and the wages we pay. We satisfy Platini`s criteria for participation in European competition. We would like more if possible, but without appealing to a wealthy individual.
So, the first step: new investment. Second step: stadium. Third: generate more profits to make a stronger team. Without investment, there is no new stadium.
Guillem: With the money the club has, can we no longer say that Liverpool is one of the big four from England?
Purslow: That`s not fair, it`s ridiculous to say that. Liverpool is one of the big four clubs in the world! We pay salaries and transfers at the level of the top four in this league. And that is the sporting level I hope to maintain. Our problem is that we do not have two first XIs, as other clubs do, we do not have that financial capacity.
Guillem: If you do not qualify for the Champions League next season, what would you say to Torres, for example, to convince him that the club is progressing?
Purslow: We will be in the Champions League, for sure.
Guillem: It has been said that Gerrard and Torres could be sold if Liverpool fails to qualify for the Champions League....
Purslow: We are not a selling club, absolutely not.
Guillem: Why has Rafa Benitez so little support in the media?
Purslow: This is a huge club. You have to accept praise and criticism gracefully. We have to keep in mind our values: stability, consistency and focus on the long term goal, without over-reacting to bad results. That`s how you run a business.
Guillem: In Italy they say that Benitez will go to Juventus....
Purslow: We have not considered nor are we going to consider a future without Benitez. Our five year plan calls for stability in the coaching staff and squad. Hence the recent renewal of Rafa`s – and key player`s - contracts. There will be no dramatic restructuring. It is normal that big clubs are interested in Rafa; there are many things I want in this life, but that does not mean that I can have them. The coach himself has denied this link (with Juventus).
Guillem: Your first task upon arrival was to oversee the sale of Xabi Alonso to Real Madrid....
Purslow: I miss him as a person, I really liked him. But Xabi wanted to go, full stop. And he let us know. What I wanted or I would have liked is irrelevant. I was saddened, I am a fan too. I wish him well in Madrid.
Christian Purslow on Liverpool
I had the privilege of meeting Liverpool Football Club managing director Christian Purslow last week, for an interview published in today’s edition of the Spanish Newspaper AS.
I’m providing a link to the original text of the article here, as I believe that statements made to the foreign media will inevitably get picked up and redistributed somewhere on the internet – and out of respect for the subject, it is important that the context and full responses given in an interview such as this are available.
Guillem: What made you accept the role of MD at Liverpool?
Christian Purslow: I am a specialist in taking financially troubled companies forward. I`ve been a shareholder in Liverpool in the past, as well as a fan. I know the club. And I love it, but if I can`t see a way of improving it, I won`t interfere.
Guillem: Is your goal to sell Liverpool in its entirety or partially?
Purslow: When I arrived, along with the owners we decided we had to find new investors. On the one hand, we are one of the most famous clubs in the world and, secondly, many people want to be connected with us. We have 60,000 fans on the waiting list to become members as we build the new stadium, which will double our income. But we are experiencing the worst global financial crisis in living memory. We have people interested and would like to have it resolved before the season ends.
Guillem: What will you do if you do not get that investment?
Purslow: Then we`ll continue as we are. This is our Plan B: run the club in the most responsible way possible. We generate a healthy profit and fulfil our obligations, while remaining sufficiently competitive in the market and the wages we pay. We satisfy Platini`s criteria for participation in European competition. We would like more if possible, but without appealing to a wealthy individual.
So, the first step: new investment. Second step: stadium. Third: generate more profits to make a stronger team. Without investment, there is no new stadium.
Guillem: With the money the club has, can we no longer say that Liverpool is one of the big four from England?
Purslow: That`s not fair, it`s ridiculous to say that. Liverpool is one of the big four clubs in the world! We pay salaries and transfers at the level of the top four in this league. And that is the sporting level I hope to maintain. Our problem is that we do not have two first XIs, as other clubs do, we do not have that financial capacity.
Guillem: If you do not qualify for the Champions League next season, what would you say to Torres, for example, to convince him that the club is progressing?
Purslow: We will be in the Champions League, for sure.
Guillem: It has been said that Gerrard and Torres could be sold if Liverpool fails to qualify for the Champions League....
Purslow: We are not a selling club, absolutely not.
Guillem: Why has Rafa Benitez so little support in the media?
Purslow: This is a huge club. You have to accept praise and criticism gracefully. We have to keep in mind our values: stability, consistency and focus on the long term goal, without over-reacting to bad results. That`s how you run a business.
Guillem: In Italy they say that Benitez will go to Juventus....
Purslow: We have not considered nor are we going to consider a future without Benitez. Our five year plan calls for stability in the coaching staff and squad. Hence the recent renewal of Rafa`s – and key player`s - contracts. There will be no dramatic restructuring. It is normal that big clubs are interested in Rafa; there are many things I want in this life, but that does not mean that I can have them. The coach himself has denied this link (with Juventus).
Guillem: Your first task upon arrival was to oversee the sale of Xabi Alonso to Real Madrid....
Purslow: I miss him as a person, I really liked him. But Xabi wanted to go, full stop. And he let us know. What I wanted or I would have liked is irrelevant. I was saddened, I am a fan too. I wish him well in Madrid.
Hmm. What Rafa's denied is meeting Juve personally, and I'm not aware of Italian sources which have suggested that anyway. They've said his reps have handled the meetings which are reported as having taken place, and that doesn't actually conflict with what Rafa's said so far. It may turn out that Rafa stays after all, but there's definitely something cooking at the moment.
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And last point. If Purslow does not agree to the minutes i can't see what right they have to publish their version of them.
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Exactly, it's the mob mentality, things like that are the very reason people should not support them or give them any credibility.
It's the same as the very behaviour they hold Hicks and Gillet responsible for, dishonest and manipulative.
regards
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It's like they have an agenda to cause issues for anyone within the LFC hierarchy Vlad. They should concentrate on doing the things they do well. Like geeing up support for the team with their banners and organised cheerleading sessions and leaving the business politics to those people who really understand it
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I had some fairly frank discussions recently with an Irish organiser for SOS. He travels to a lot of the meetings like this one with Purslow and gets involved as much as possible.
Your last sentence pretty much sums up my feelings on it. The guy I spoke to actually admitted that they began the RBS protest without knowing the possible consequences. He was blissfully unaware that at that time if our financing was pulled out from underneath us by RBS that the likelihood is we'd end up in administration. It was only a few weeks later when one of the group spoke with "someone in London" that they found out about it.
They're too focused on a hatred of the Yanks to realise the potential damage they can do to the future of the club.
SOS are convinced RBS appointed Purslow too.
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And last point. If Purslow does not agree to the minutes i can't see what right they have to publish their version of them.
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Exactly, it's the mob mentality, things like that are the very reason people should not support them or give them any credibility.
It's the same as the very behaviour they hold Hicks and Gillet responsible for, dishonest and manipulative.
regards
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It's like they have an agenda to cause issues for anyone within the LFC hierarchy Vlad. They should concentrate on doing the things they do well. Like geeing up support for the team with their banners and organised cheerleading sessions and leaving the business politics to those people who really understand it
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I had some fairly frank discussions recently with an Irish organiser for SOS. He travels to a lot of the meetings like this one with Purslow and gets involved as much as possible.
Your last sentence pretty much sums up my feelings on it. The guy I spoke to actually admitted that they began the RBS protest without knowing the possible consequences. He was blissfully unaware that at that time if our financing was pulled out from underneath us by RBS that the likelihood is we'd end up in administration. It was only a few weeks later when one of the group spoke with "someone in London" that they found out about it.
They're too focused on a hatred of the Yanks to realise the potential damage they can do to the future of the club.
SOS are convinced RBS appointed Purslow too.
Is it time for those of us who can see SoS for what they are to start contacting the club and even the owners to put the record straight? Or would that be damaging in itself by spotlighting rifts among the fans?
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Is it time for those of us who can see SoS for what they are to start contacting the club and even the owners to put the record straight? Or would that be damaging in itself by spotlighting rifts among the fans?
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The latter I think, unfortunately.
It's a shame SoS are so vehement yet so wrong in their aspect. TBH though, I have a friend of a friend who goes to every game & now travels with the SoS group to games & having seen the videos on his phone at least half of them are too coked up and/or drunk too see the match let alone formulate a coherent strategy to even piss out of a coach window.
Is it time for those of us who can see SoS for what they are to start contacting the club and even the owners to put the record straight? Or would that be damaging in itself by spotlighting rifts among the fans?
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The latter I think, unfortunately.
It's a shame SoS are so vehement yet so wrong in their aspect. TBH though, I have a friend of a friend who goes to every game & now travels with the SoS group to games & having seen the videos on his phone at least half of them are too coked up and/or drunk too see the match let alone formulate a coherent strategy to even piss out of a coach window.
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http://www.guillembalague.com/interview_desp.php?titulo=Christian+Purslow+on+Liverpool&id=77
Christian Purslow on Liverpool
I had the privilege of meeting Liverpool Football Club managing director Christian Purslow last week, for an interview published in today’s edition of the Spanish Newspaper AS.
I’m providing a link to the original text of the article here, as I believe that statements made to the foreign media will inevitably get picked up and redistributed somewhere on the internet – and out of respect for the subject, it is important that the context and full responses given in an interview such as this are available.
Guillem: What made you accept the role of MD at Liverpool?
Christian Purslow: I am a specialist in taking financially troubled companies forward. I`ve been a shareholder in Liverpool in the past, as well as a fan. I know the club. And I love it, but if I can`t see a way of improving it, I won`t interfere.
Guillem: Is your goal to sell Liverpool in its entirety or partially?
Purslow: When I arrived, along with the owners we decided we had to find new investors. On the one hand, we are one of the most famous clubs in the world and, secondly, many people want to be connected with us. We have 60,000 fans on the waiting list to become members as we build the new stadium, which will double our income. But we are experiencing the worst global financial crisis in living memory. We have people interested and would like to have it resolved before the season ends.
Guillem: What will you do if you do not get that investment?
Purslow: Then we`ll continue as we are. This is our Plan B: run the club in the most responsible way possible. We generate a healthy profit and fulfil our obligations, while remaining sufficiently competitive in the market and the wages we pay. We satisfy Platini`s criteria for participation in European competition. We would like more if possible, but without appealing to a wealthy individual.
So, the first step: new investment. Second step: stadium. Third: generate more profits to make a stronger team. Without investment, there is no new stadium.
Guillem: With the money the club has, can we no longer say that Liverpool is one of the big four from England?
Purslow: That`s not fair, it`s ridiculous to say that. Liverpool is one of the big four clubs in the world! We pay salaries and transfers at the level of the top four in this league. And that is the sporting level I hope to maintain. Our problem is that we do not have two first XIs, as other clubs do, we do not have that financial capacity.
Guillem: If you do not qualify for the Champions League next season, what would you say to Torres, for example, to convince him that the club is progressing?
Purslow: We will be in the Champions League, for sure.
Guillem: It has been said that Gerrard and Torres could be sold if Liverpool fails to qualify for the Champions League....
Purslow: We are not a selling club, absolutely not.
Guillem: Why has Rafa Benitez so little support in the media?
Purslow: This is a huge club. You have to accept praise and criticism gracefully. We have to keep in mind our values: stability, consistency and focus on the long term goal, without over-reacting to bad results. That`s how you run a business.
Guillem: In Italy they say that Benitez will go to Juventus....
Purslow: We have not considered nor are we going to consider a future without Benitez. Our five year plan calls for stability in the coaching staff and squad. Hence the recent renewal of Rafa`s – and key player`s - contracts. There will be no dramatic restructuring. It is normal that big clubs are interested in Rafa; there are many things I want in this life, but that does not mean that I can have them. The coach himself has denied this link (with Juventus).
Guillem: Your first task upon arrival was to oversee the sale of Xabi Alonso to Real Madrid....
Purslow: I miss him as a person, I really liked him. But Xabi wanted to go, full stop. And he let us know. What I wanted or I would have liked is irrelevant. I was saddened, I am a fan too. I wish him well in Madrid.
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Heh,
if this interview is to be relied upon then any question as to which version of the minutes with SoS is valid has been put to rest.
I thought the language used in some of the answers was incoherent and completely lacking in the character of a person with a business background - I couldn't believe it was said by Purslow during the discussion. Didn't surprise me at all to find those were the particular areas that were in dispute.
I'd like to know the background on the thoughts that he was appointed by RBS. It was certainly strongly inferred in the SoS version that he at least had a loyalty and ongoing connections with them. It's not out of the question that they would have had a role in him being appointed but I must be missing the factor as to why that would be important to a group like SoS.
http://www.guillembalague.com/interview_desp.php?titulo=Christian+Purslow+on+Liverpool&id=77
Christian Purslow on Liverpool
I had the privilege of meeting Liverpool Football Club managing director Christian Purslow last week, for an interview published in today’s edition of the Spanish Newspaper AS.
I’m providing a link to the original text of the article here, as I believe that statements made to the foreign media will inevitably get picked up and redistributed somewhere on the internet – and out of respect for the subject, it is important that the context and full responses given in an interview such as this are available.
Guillem: What made you accept the role of MD at Liverpool?
Christian Purslow: I am a specialist in taking financially troubled companies forward. I`ve been a shareholder in Liverpool in the past, as well as a fan. I know the club. And I love it, but if I can`t see a way of improving it, I won`t interfere.
Guillem: Is your goal to sell Liverpool in its entirety or partially?
Purslow: When I arrived, along with the owners we decided we had to find new investors. On the one hand, we are one of the most famous clubs in the world and, secondly, many people want to be connected with us. We have 60,000 fans on the waiting list to become members as we build the new stadium, which will double our income. But we are experiencing the worst global financial crisis in living memory. We have people interested and would like to have it resolved before the season ends.
Guillem: What will you do if you do not get that investment?
Purslow: Then we`ll continue as we are. This is our Plan B: run the club in the most responsible way possible. We generate a healthy profit and fulfil our obligations, while remaining sufficiently competitive in the market and the wages we pay. We satisfy Platini`s criteria for participation in European competition. We would like more if possible, but without appealing to a wealthy individual.
So, the first step: new investment. Second step: stadium. Third: generate more profits to make a stronger team. Without investment, there is no new stadium.
Guillem: With the money the club has, can we no longer say that Liverpool is one of the big four from England?
Purslow: That`s not fair, it`s ridiculous to say that. Liverpool is one of the big four clubs in the world! We pay salaries and transfers at the level of the top four in this league. And that is the sporting level I hope to maintain. Our problem is that we do not have two first XIs, as other clubs do, we do not have that financial capacity.
Guillem: If you do not qualify for the Champions League next season, what would you say to Torres, for example, to convince him that the club is progressing?
Purslow: We will be in the Champions League, for sure.
Guillem: It has been said that Gerrard and Torres could be sold if Liverpool fails to qualify for the Champions League....
Purslow: We are not a selling club, absolutely not.
Guillem: Why has Rafa Benitez so little support in the media?
Purslow: This is a huge club. You have to accept praise and criticism gracefully. We have to keep in mind our values: stability, consistency and focus on the long term goal, without over-reacting to bad results. That`s how you run a business.
Guillem: In Italy they say that Benitez will go to Juventus....
Purslow: We have not considered nor are we going to consider a future without Benitez. Our five year plan calls for stability in the coaching staff and squad. Hence the recent renewal of Rafa`s – and key player`s - contracts. There will be no dramatic restructuring. It is normal that big clubs are interested in Rafa; there are many things I want in this life, but that does not mean that I can have them. The coach himself has denied this link (with Juventus).
Guillem: Your first task upon arrival was to oversee the sale of Xabi Alonso to Real Madrid....
Purslow: I miss him as a person, I really liked him. But Xabi wanted to go, full stop. And he let us know. What I wanted or I would have liked is irrelevant. I was saddened, I am a fan too. I wish him well in Madrid.
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Heh,
if this interview is to be relied upon then any question as to which version of the minutes with SoS is valid has been put to rest.
I thought the language used in some of the answers was incoherent and completely lacking in the character of a person with a business background - I couldn't believe it was said by Purslow during the discussion. Didn't surprise me at all to find those were the particular areas that were in dispute.
I'd like to know the background on the thoughts that he was appointed by RBS. It was certainly strongly inferred in the SoS version that he at least had a loyalty and ongoing connections with them. It's not out of the question that they would have had a role in him being appointed but I must be missing the factor as to why that would be important to a group like SoS.
[quote author=Wizardry link=topic=38759.msg1048379#msg1048379 date=1265159427]
I thought the language used in some of the answers was incoherent and completely lacking in the character of a person with a business background - I couldn't believe it was said by Purslow during the discussion. Didn't surprise me at all to find those were the particular areas that were in dispute.
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Exactly.
I very much appreciate the energy being put forth in an attempt to press the owners, but I find the methodology and professionalism reckless and amateur again and again. Let's say that their account is more accurate, how about having someone in place that does short hand transcription in there. There are people that can achieve 99%+ accuracy on reporting this sort of thing, without recording, typing, stenography equipment etc. The syntax and quality of language throughout their minutes is always going to call their accuracy into question, even if there wasn't this sort of discrepancy. Given the history, who can really trust them not to significantly colour their account?
More to the point though, I cannot fathom why Liverpool can't function for more than 2 months without this sort of story being raised. Why is Purslow permitted to talk to SoS? What exactly is the point of that? Why does he need to? Why do the owners sometimes make off the cuff remarks in media outside the UK and think it won't be picked up on? We are a company that produces entertainment content essentially, and PR is incredibly important.
I thought the language used in some of the answers was incoherent and completely lacking in the character of a person with a business background - I couldn't believe it was said by Purslow during the discussion. Didn't surprise me at all to find those were the particular areas that were in dispute.
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Exactly.
I very much appreciate the energy being put forth in an attempt to press the owners, but I find the methodology and professionalism reckless and amateur again and again. Let's say that their account is more accurate, how about having someone in place that does short hand transcription in there. There are people that can achieve 99%+ accuracy on reporting this sort of thing, without recording, typing, stenography equipment etc. The syntax and quality of language throughout their minutes is always going to call their accuracy into question, even if there wasn't this sort of discrepancy. Given the history, who can really trust them not to significantly colour their account?
More to the point though, I cannot fathom why Liverpool can't function for more than 2 months without this sort of story being raised. Why is Purslow permitted to talk to SoS? What exactly is the point of that? Why does he need to? Why do the owners sometimes make off the cuff remarks in media outside the UK and think it won't be picked up on? We are a company that produces entertainment content essentially, and PR is incredibly important.
[quote author=Farkmaster link=topic=38759.msg1048383#msg1048383 date=1265163612]
[quote author=Wizardry link=topic=38759.msg1048379#msg1048379 date=1265159427]
I thought the language used in some of the answers was incoherent and completely lacking in the character of a person with a business background - I couldn't believe it was said by Purslow during the discussion. Didn't surprise me at all to find those were the particular areas that were in dispute.
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Exactly.
I very much appreciate the energy being put forth in an attempt to press the owners, but I find the methodology and professionalism reckless and amateur again and again. Let's say that their account is more accurate, how about having someone in place that does short hand transcription in there. There are people that can achieve 99%+ accuracy on reporting this sort of thing, without recording, typing, stenography equipment etc. The syntax and quality of language throughout their minutes is always going to call their accuracy into question, even if there wasn't this sort of discrepancy. Given the history, who can really trust them not to significantly colour their account?
More to the point though, I cannot fathom why Liverpool can't function for more than 2 months without this sort of story being raised. Why is Purslow permitted to talk to SoS? What exactly is the point of that? Why does he need to? Why do the owners sometimes make off the cuff remarks in media outside the UK and think it won't be picked up on? We are a company that produces entertainment content essentially, and PR is incredibly important.
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I think it's obvious why Purslow would agree to be questioned by SOS - and PR is the reason. Whatever the truth of the matter, the perception is that SOS represent the supporters' feelings, and the club does not want its supporters to feel excluded and alienated. In future, maybe he'll just talk to the official supporters' group instead?
[quote author=Wizardry link=topic=38759.msg1048379#msg1048379 date=1265159427]
I thought the language used in some of the answers was incoherent and completely lacking in the character of a person with a business background - I couldn't believe it was said by Purslow during the discussion. Didn't surprise me at all to find those were the particular areas that were in dispute.
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Exactly.
I very much appreciate the energy being put forth in an attempt to press the owners, but I find the methodology and professionalism reckless and amateur again and again. Let's say that their account is more accurate, how about having someone in place that does short hand transcription in there. There are people that can achieve 99%+ accuracy on reporting this sort of thing, without recording, typing, stenography equipment etc. The syntax and quality of language throughout their minutes is always going to call their accuracy into question, even if there wasn't this sort of discrepancy. Given the history, who can really trust them not to significantly colour their account?
More to the point though, I cannot fathom why Liverpool can't function for more than 2 months without this sort of story being raised. Why is Purslow permitted to talk to SoS? What exactly is the point of that? Why does he need to? Why do the owners sometimes make off the cuff remarks in media outside the UK and think it won't be picked up on? We are a company that produces entertainment content essentially, and PR is incredibly important.
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I think it's obvious why Purslow would agree to be questioned by SOS - and PR is the reason. Whatever the truth of the matter, the perception is that SOS represent the supporters' feelings, and the club does not want its supporters to feel excluded and alienated. In future, maybe he'll just talk to the official supporters' group instead?
It's in the papers....
http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/premier-league/banks-ready-to-force-sale-of-liverpool-this-summer-1887507.html
Banks ready to force sale of Liverpool this summer
Club's managing director admits that RBS may pull plug on American owners unless they secure £100m investment
By Ian Herbert and Nick Harris
Wednesday, 3 February 2010
Liverpool's pursuit of £100m in new investment is being carried out on the orders of the club's bankers, it emerged yesterday, and with the managing director admitting he cannot "guarantee" success, the genuine possibility is emerging of owners Tom Hicks and George Gillett being forced to sell up this summer.
Though it has been known for several months that MD Christian Purslow is seeking cash by selling equity to alleviate Liverpool's £237m debt, only yesterday, in the published minutes of a recent meeting between Purslow and the club's Spirit of Shankly (SoS) fans' group, bankers Wachovia and Royal Bank of Scotland's (RBS) express "requirement" of the new cash become clear.
The deadline for securing the £100m is July – when Hicks and Gillett must refinance their debts once again. Fail to find the cash and the Americans will be out of Anfield after a rocky and largely unhappy three years on Merseyside. The consequences of that for Liverpool could be defining ones – conceivably a fire sale of the club similar to the one which West Ham United have just undergone, with the attendant loss of money, elite players and status as a top side.
The pursuit of the investment seems to be proving more difficult than Purslow had originally foreseen, with initial hopes that a number of investors could be sought to secure the £100m in return for a 25 per cent share now giving way to the acceptance that no new investor will be prepared to lay out millions simply to take a minority stake in Liverpool. As The Independent reported on Monday, a 34 per cent stake seems to be the minimum a buyer will accept, with Hicks and Gillett owning 33 per cent each.
The picture is further complicated by the fact that Purslow firmly rejects SoS's minutes of their 21 January meeting with him, in which he portrayed RBS as extremely unhappy with Hicks and Gillett and keen to be rid of them. But even his less eye-catching account of the meeting confirms that securing £100m to reduce borrowings was agreed when he, a former merchant banker, was appointed last autumn. "There are now five or six potential investors with whom we are talking," the MD says in his own minutes. Purslow has rejected suggestions that the Americans are so desperate for cash that they are willing to sell 40 per cent of the club for £100m. Some prospective buyers may now be waiting for a fire sale, which would bring the price tumbling from the £500m offered by Dubai International Capital (DIC) two years ago – and which Hicks rejected.
Purslow's version of his disclosure to fans did not include their claims that he told them failure to qualify for next season's Champions League would damage the pursuit of investors. SoS said Purslow had told them: "The team's performance... is talked about by potential investors, as while we might make up the loss [of] Champions League revenue through a good run in the Europa Cup [sic], the loss of Champions League football next season would impact upon income and this has a relevance to investors."
Purslow's minutes also excluded the assertion that he told them RBS was "annoyed and unhappy" with Hicks and Gillett and "they want a change of ownership". SoS say he told them the club is for sale: "It will be sold. The owners have to sell it, they are out of money. The bank want it sold, the fans want it sold and people want to buy it."
Neither did the MD repeat the fans' claim that he told them that he expected a deal with new investors concluded "by Easter" with the initial expectation of something in place this month.
But Purslow, whose club yesterday agreed a three-year deal to sign Milan Jovanovic, the Standard Liège striker, on a free transfer in the summer, does paint a more rosy picture of the money available to Rafael Benitez in the transfer market than had been widely believed, suggesting that while there had been "plenty of funding available" last month, Benitez had "chosen not to bring in anyone other than Maxi Rodriguez, the Argentine international". That is not how Benitez has characterised things over the past few months, suggesting only last month that servicing the club's debt was now a bigger priority than buying players.
http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/premier-league/banks-ready-to-force-sale-of-liverpool-this-summer-1887507.html
Banks ready to force sale of Liverpool this summer
Club's managing director admits that RBS may pull plug on American owners unless they secure £100m investment
By Ian Herbert and Nick Harris
Wednesday, 3 February 2010
Liverpool's pursuit of £100m in new investment is being carried out on the orders of the club's bankers, it emerged yesterday, and with the managing director admitting he cannot "guarantee" success, the genuine possibility is emerging of owners Tom Hicks and George Gillett being forced to sell up this summer.
Though it has been known for several months that MD Christian Purslow is seeking cash by selling equity to alleviate Liverpool's £237m debt, only yesterday, in the published minutes of a recent meeting between Purslow and the club's Spirit of Shankly (SoS) fans' group, bankers Wachovia and Royal Bank of Scotland's (RBS) express "requirement" of the new cash become clear.
The deadline for securing the £100m is July – when Hicks and Gillett must refinance their debts once again. Fail to find the cash and the Americans will be out of Anfield after a rocky and largely unhappy three years on Merseyside. The consequences of that for Liverpool could be defining ones – conceivably a fire sale of the club similar to the one which West Ham United have just undergone, with the attendant loss of money, elite players and status as a top side.
The pursuit of the investment seems to be proving more difficult than Purslow had originally foreseen, with initial hopes that a number of investors could be sought to secure the £100m in return for a 25 per cent share now giving way to the acceptance that no new investor will be prepared to lay out millions simply to take a minority stake in Liverpool. As The Independent reported on Monday, a 34 per cent stake seems to be the minimum a buyer will accept, with Hicks and Gillett owning 33 per cent each.
The picture is further complicated by the fact that Purslow firmly rejects SoS's minutes of their 21 January meeting with him, in which he portrayed RBS as extremely unhappy with Hicks and Gillett and keen to be rid of them. But even his less eye-catching account of the meeting confirms that securing £100m to reduce borrowings was agreed when he, a former merchant banker, was appointed last autumn. "There are now five or six potential investors with whom we are talking," the MD says in his own minutes. Purslow has rejected suggestions that the Americans are so desperate for cash that they are willing to sell 40 per cent of the club for £100m. Some prospective buyers may now be waiting for a fire sale, which would bring the price tumbling from the £500m offered by Dubai International Capital (DIC) two years ago – and which Hicks rejected.
Purslow's version of his disclosure to fans did not include their claims that he told them failure to qualify for next season's Champions League would damage the pursuit of investors. SoS said Purslow had told them: "The team's performance... is talked about by potential investors, as while we might make up the loss [of] Champions League revenue through a good run in the Europa Cup [sic], the loss of Champions League football next season would impact upon income and this has a relevance to investors."
Purslow's minutes also excluded the assertion that he told them RBS was "annoyed and unhappy" with Hicks and Gillett and "they want a change of ownership". SoS say he told them the club is for sale: "It will be sold. The owners have to sell it, they are out of money. The bank want it sold, the fans want it sold and people want to buy it."
Neither did the MD repeat the fans' claim that he told them that he expected a deal with new investors concluded "by Easter" with the initial expectation of something in place this month.
But Purslow, whose club yesterday agreed a three-year deal to sign Milan Jovanovic, the Standard Liège striker, on a free transfer in the summer, does paint a more rosy picture of the money available to Rafael Benitez in the transfer market than had been widely believed, suggesting that while there had been "plenty of funding available" last month, Benitez had "chosen not to bring in anyone other than Maxi Rodriguez, the Argentine international". That is not how Benitez has characterised things over the past few months, suggesting only last month that servicing the club's debt was now a bigger priority than buying players.
[quote author=TheBunnyman link=topic=38759.msg1048415#msg1048415 date=1265183445]
I think it's obvious why Purslow would agree to be questioned by SOS - and PR is the reason. Whatever the truth of the matter, the perception is that SOS represent the supporters' feelings, and the club does not want its supporters to feel excluded and alienated. In future, maybe he'll just talk to the official supporters' group instead?
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Well, yes, that might make some sense.
That's not really the full issue though, I have absolutely no sense that the team as a whole, Manager, Managing Director, Owners, have any clue what being on message means. Is there a unified sense of what the approach to the press in characterizing our position should be? There appears to be no management of basic aspects of PR at all.
I think it's obvious why Purslow would agree to be questioned by SOS - and PR is the reason. Whatever the truth of the matter, the perception is that SOS represent the supporters' feelings, and the club does not want its supporters to feel excluded and alienated. In future, maybe he'll just talk to the official supporters' group instead?
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Well, yes, that might make some sense.
That's not really the full issue though, I have absolutely no sense that the team as a whole, Manager, Managing Director, Owners, have any clue what being on message means. Is there a unified sense of what the approach to the press in characterizing our position should be? There appears to be no management of basic aspects of PR at all.
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[quote author=TheBunnyman link=topic=38759.msg1048415#msg1048415 date=1265183445]
I think it's obvious why Purslow would agree to be questioned by SOS - and PR is the reason. Whatever the truth of the matter, the perception is that SOS represent the supporters' feelings, and the club does not want its supporters to feel excluded and alienated. In future, maybe he'll just talk to the official supporters' group instead?
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Well, yes, that might make some sense.
That's not really the full issue though, I have absolutely no sense that the team as a whole, Manager, Managing Director, Owners, have any clue what being on message means. Is there a unified sense of what the approach to the press in characterizing our position should be? There appears to be no management of basic aspects of PR at all.
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There's never going to be a 'unified sense' of anything when the two owners hate each other's guts, is there?
[quote author=TheBunnyman link=topic=38759.msg1048415#msg1048415 date=1265183445]
I think it's obvious why Purslow would agree to be questioned by SOS - and PR is the reason. Whatever the truth of the matter, the perception is that SOS represent the supporters' feelings, and the club does not want its supporters to feel excluded and alienated. In future, maybe he'll just talk to the official supporters' group instead?
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Well, yes, that might make some sense.
That's not really the full issue though, I have absolutely no sense that the team as a whole, Manager, Managing Director, Owners, have any clue what being on message means. Is there a unified sense of what the approach to the press in characterizing our position should be? There appears to be no management of basic aspects of PR at all.
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There's never going to be a 'unified sense' of anything when the two owners hate each other's guts, is there?
[quote author=Sunny link=topic=38759.msg1048124#msg1048124 date=1265119882]
And last point. If Purslow does not agree to the minutes i can't see what right they have to publish their version of them.
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What a load of tosh........ think about it a bit more.
And last point. If Purslow does not agree to the minutes i can't see what right they have to publish their version of them.
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What a load of tosh........ think about it a bit more.
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