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Punishments for cheats

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Arsenal 1-0 Celtic, the tie is over. Eduardo has just dived in the box for a penalty and it is now game over. Fucking disgraceful dive, how Boruc never ripped his head off I will never know.
I seemed to get all worked up, such a clear piece of cheating always gets me mad. Especially when it is one of our players, Gerrard has wound me up on several occasions. In light of the current Blood-gate scandal in Rugby union, where a player has been banned for 4 months for cheating when video footage was analysed and investigated, is it possible to start coming down hard on these overpaid spoilt brats in football?
I would love to see some big bans thrown out, maybe 1 month in all competitions, for the likes of what i have seen tonight. Only then will players start to respect the game and referees.
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Perhaps we ask Martin Taylor to tackle him again. I wonder if Wenger "saw it".

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Uncalled for
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It was tongue in cheek FFS. I see that Wenger saw fit to mention the Babel penalty from two years ago.

Plus with Eboue, Diaby and now Eduardo you've got a nice set of diving little cheats to call upon. If they want this stamped out then they need a punishment that puts people off. I'm all for the same system of the rugby citing.

Make the bans long and the we'll soon see whether players think the "risk" is worthwhile.
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Eboue Diaby and Eduardo? We'll just forget about the likes of Torres and Gerrard then, shall we?
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Gerrard and Torres are not serial divers, unlike your lot.
 
I think Gerrard's done enough to be labelled amongst them

Not Torres, though.
 
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Arsenal 1-0 Celtic, the tie is over. Eduardo has just dived in the box for a penalty and it is now game over. Fucking disgraceful dive, how Boruc never ripped his head off I will never know.
I seemed to get all worked up, such a clear piece of cheating always gets me mad. Especially when it is one of our players, Gerrard has wound me up on several occasions. In light of the current Blood-gate scandal in Rugby union, where a player has been banned for 4 months for cheating when video footage was analysed and investigated, is it possible to start coming down hard on these overpaid spoilt brats in football?
I would love to see some big bans thrown out, maybe 1 month in all competitions, for the likes of what i have seen tonight. Only then will players start to respect the game and referees.
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Perhaps we ask Martin Taylor to tackle him again. I wonder if Wenger "saw it".

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Uncalled for
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It was tongue in cheek FFS. I see that Wenger saw fit to mention the Babel penalty from two years ago.

Plus with Eboue, Diaby and now Eduardo you've got a nice set of diving little cheats to call upon. If they want this stamped out then they need a punishment that puts people off. I'm all for the same system of the rugby citing.

Make the bans long and the we'll soon see whether players think the "risk" is worthwhile.
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Eboue Diaby and Eduardo? We'll just forget about the likes of Torres and Gerrard then, shall we?
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Gerrard and Torres are not serial divers, unlike your lot.
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haha You can hardly label them as "serial divers" Diaby never plays so im not sure where you've seen all these dives of his. Eduardo, as you suggested yourself, has dived once and Eboue...well Eboue is a cheating git but he's more of an injury feigner than a diver!

Actually saw a little clip today that certainly wouldn't do you any favours in your "gerrard isn't a serial diver" claim
 
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How does A clip show he's a serial diver?
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A compilation of clips then 🙂
 
RedCafe love the whole Gerrard is a diver routine. Anyways, he's not.

He's made the most of contact at times and gone down easy, but I can only really recall one or two instances where he genuinely playacted and went down with no contact. There is a difference.

I don't mind players making the most out of challenges - goalkeepers do it, defenders do it.. it doesn't matter what position you're in, it's just part of the game.

It's the moaning, rolling around the floor, diving and general play-acting that we've seen from the likes of Ronaldo and Drogba in recent years that everyone hates.
 
Just seen it for the first time.

I cannot believe he had the audacity to celebrate that. Running to the corner flag, and lauding it up in front of the camera like that. What a pathetic little cunt.
 
Gerrard hasn't done so much this season, must be why you're not doing so well lol.

Gerrard & Torres would never play if there was bans for diving.
 
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Gerrard hasn't done so much this season, must be why you're not doing so well lol.

Gerrard & Torres would never play if there was bans for diving.
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All forwards make the most of any contact as has been pointed out to you you brainless stupid cunt - now fuck off.
 
If the authorities were to strictly enforce bans on diving or feigning fingers / hands in the face etc. (a la Valencia against Wigan last week) then this could be virtually eradicated in the top leagues within a season, unfortunately those spineless little gits at UEFA / FIFA don't have the guts.

All divers / injury feigners should be hung drawn and quartered and no mercy shown (that means slowly and painfully).
 
I say let the opposition players boot them in the face and then use video evidence to sort it out afterwards.

If it was a dive, 3 game ban, if it wasn't then a 3 game ban for the other bloke.

Can't say fairer than that
 
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How does A clip show he's a serial diver?
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A compilation of clips then 🙂
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You see? Precision is a good thing. Next time your chums start responding to goal kicks, short passes a few inches above the ground and and elegant cross-field passes by chanting 'HOOF!' please point out to them they're just being tiresome and stupid idiots.
 
Get a panel to look at the game after, if there's a dive - give them a red card for it. It'll soon stop in a few weeks. Every player will be doing their best to stay on their feet make sure it doesn't look anything like a dive.

We could kiss goodbye to that peno in Istanbul tho 😉
 
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Gerrard hasn't done so much this season, must be why you're not doing so well lol.

Gerrard & Torres would never play if there was bans for diving.
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All forwards make the most of any contact as has been pointed out to you you brainless stupid cunt - now fuck off.
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And that's a dive you silly fuck, contact that doesn't take you to the ground but you still throw yourself on the floor is a dive you dumb fucktard.
 
While on the topics of dives, Tony Hibbert's dive against Burnley was an absolute disgrace. Does he escape being critisised just because he is rubbish?
 
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Gerrard hasn't done so much this season, must be why you're not doing so well lol.

Gerrard & Torres would never play if there was bans for diving.
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All forwards make the most of any contact as has been pointed out to you you brainless stupid cunt - now fuck off.
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And that's a dive you silly fuck, contact that doesn't take you to the ground but you still throw yourself on the floor is a dive you dumb fucktard.
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Wasn't this dickhead banned?
 
Just read that. What a joke, so every dive now goes up in front of the beak, or just the ones the shortbreads get a bit moaney about?

Madrid are fucked.
 
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Gerrard hasn't done so much this season, must be why you're not doing so well lol.

Gerrard & Torres would never play if there was bans for diving.
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All forwards make the most of any contact as has been pointed out to you you brainless stupid cunt - now fuck off.
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And that's a dive you silly fuck, contact that doesn't take you to the ground but you still throw yourself on the floor is a dive you dumb fucktard.
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By your definition, every player in the Premiership would be classed as a "diver" and that is clearly not a true reflection of the league now, is it?

That was a rhetorical question by the way, so don't bother responding and fuck off. You were shit the last time you posted on here and you're still shit now.
 
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[quote author=Gooner46 link=topic=35496.msg933834#msg933834 date=1251442078]
Gerrard hasn't done so much this season, must be why you're not doing so well lol.

Gerrard & Torres would never play if there was bans for diving.
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All forwards make the most of any contact as has been pointed out to you you brainless stupid cunt - now fuck off.
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And that's a dive you silly fuck, contact that doesn't take you to the ground but you still throw yourself on the floor is a dive you dumb fucktard.
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Two questions:

1. How old are you?

2. Do you wear an Arsenal top everyday?
 
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[quote author=Gooner46 link=topic=35496.msg933834#msg933834 date=1251442078]
Gerrard hasn't done so much this season, must be why you're not doing so well lol.

Gerrard & Torres would never play if there was bans for diving.
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All forwards make the most of any contact as has been pointed out to you you brainless stupid cunt - now fuck off.
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And that's a dive you silly fuck, contact that doesn't take you to the ground but you still throw yourself on the floor is a dive you dumb fucktard.
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your not a pleasent cretin are you!!!
See Nonirongooner for details of how to behave in this forum as a non LFC fan!!
 
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How does A clip show he's a serial diver?
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A compilation of clips then 🙂
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You see? Precision is a good thing. Next time your chums start responding to goal kicks, short passes a few inches above the ground and and elegant cross-field passes by chanting 'HOOF!' please point out to them they're just being tiresome and stupid idiots.
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Im sorry, what?
 
It was a disgraceful dive but lets not pretend that none of our own haven't conned the ref before now cos they have. I am suprised he's been dragged before the officials for it, not because he doesn't deserve it he clearly does but because it happens all the fucking time.
 
The elderly ostrich isn't happy, lmfao


Arsenal boss Arsene Wenger has accused Uefa of conducting a "witch-hunt" after it charged Eduardo with diving in the Champions League clash with Celtic.

Striker Eduardo appeared to dive to win a penalty last Wednesday and Uefa could ban him for up to two games when its disciplinary body meets on 1 September.

"I find it a complete disgrace and unacceptable," said Wenger.

"It singles out a player to be a cheat and that is not acceptable. We will not accept the way Uefa has treated this."

If Eduardo is suspended he would miss Standard Liege away on 16 September and the home match with Olympiacos on 29 September.

And Wenger added: "I believe you can debate whether it is a penalty or not. But this charge implies there was intent and a desire to cheat the referee. Having seen again the pictures again, nothing is conclusive.

"It's a witch-hunt that we see and not an objective judgement of a case."
 
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It was a disgraceful dive but lets not pretend that none of our own haven't conned the ref before now cos they have. I am suprised he's been dragged before the officials for it, not because he doesn't deserve it he clearly does but because it happens all the fucking time.
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Well, let's hope it is a start to them clamping down on it, and making examples of a few people in high profile games.
You are right of course Molby, people in Liverpool shirts have done it , however when it has happened the perpetrators have been widely condemned by the fans

regards

PS Oh I think it is conclusive Arsene, don't insult everyones intelligence there's a good lad
 
Just to weigh in on Eduardos oncoming ban...

Whilst i think banning players on the bases of video evidence for diving is a good idea, i think it's a disgrace that Eduardo has, all of a sudden become the victim of a "witch hunt" Why, all of a sudden, has everyone gone bananas over a dive when simulation in the past has been taken with a pinch of salt? Why is Eduardo going to be banned and not Gilardino for his dive against Celtic? Or Rooney for his dive against Spurs? etc

If something like this is to come into place then Uefa, or whoever has the power these days, need to come out at the start of the season and lay down the law.
 
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Just to weigh in on Eduardos oncoming ban...

Whilst i think banning players on the bases of video evidence for diving is a good idea, i think it's a disgrace that Eduardo has, all of a sudden become the victim of a "witch hunt" Why, all of a sudden, has everyone gone bananas over a dive when simulation in the past has been taken with a pinch of salt? Why is Eduardo going to be banned and not Gilardino for his dive against Celtic? Or Rooney for his dive against Spurs? etc

If something like this is to come into place then Uefa, or whoever has the power these days, need to come out at the start of the season and lay down the law.
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The law is the law NG, it's there already.
If they are clamping down and Eduardo was the first one to make an example of then that's just tough.
The time to feel hard done by is when other equally obvious cases might go unpunished.

regards
 
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