This might actually be the point where I give up on football.
That's a lie, I will be back for more punishment.
😀This is why some squirrels can cross a road and others die because they watch the car hit them as they think about what they should do.
Apparently the pen Could be given after the final whistle because the Players hadn't left the field and as the game had ended the play couldn't resume so var check was something that happened within the game... This is the excuse they are using...Listening to that highlights they knew there was a mistake.
If a penalty could be taken after the final whistle was blown, why was the mistake not rectified? Surely the play can be taken back.
Exactly what I said half a dozen pages back. Or just have the ref. repeat the decision so there is zero misunderstanding.The phrase 'check complete' is so vague and ambiguous that it needs changing immediately. Surely stating goal or offside would give much more clarity in the same circumstances. You state what the outcome is and then there's no confusion.
With all the noise? Goal stands or Player Offside would be better. Less ambiguous.
I have a feeling this MAY really fire us up.
That means whoever has been running VAR, training it, writing the SOPs for it, should be fired.
there is zero silver lining to this
Think you're searching too far outside the box.
The people who run and train VAR are the same people who run and train it to La Liga/Serie A/Bundesliga etc officials....the reason the English league is so far behind is because this crop of officials are fucking retarded.....replay the clip, you can hear it in their tone of voice. "Yeah", "Wot"...it's like a day out in the park for them.
England clearly rushed the check and you could hear the panic in his voice as he's telling the onfield "check complete", that's nothing to do with protocol.
The silver lining I suppose is this is a very unprecedented situation that PGMOL are faced with, thus forcing Webb's hand to create change for the first time.
Full audio transcript
VAR: Possible offside, Diaz.
Assistant referee 2: Give it.
Assistant referee 1: Coming back for the offside, mate.
VAR: Just checking the offside. Delay, delay. Give the kick point, let’s go. Kick point please?
Referee: Yeah, no worries mate.
Replay operator: So, here we are. Just get a tight angle.
VAR: Yeah, give me 2D line ready after this one for frame two after that.
Replay operator: So frame two there?
VAR: That’s fine. Perfect, yeah. 2D line on the left boot.
Replay operator: Let me just switch angles.
VAR: Romero, I think it is?
Replay operator: I think it might be this angle better? Happy with this angle?
VAR: Yep.
Replay operator: 2D line on the boot?
VAR: 2D line on the boot.
Replay operator: Yeah, okay. So 2D line on the boot.
VAR: And stop. Check complete, check complete. That’s fine, perfect.
Assistant referee 1: Playing.
Referee: Cheers mate.
VAR: Thank you mate.
Referee: Well done boys, good process.
Replay operator: Wait, wait, wait, wait. The on-field decision was offside. Are you happy with this?
Assistant VAR: Yeah.
Replay operator: Are you happy with this?
Assistant VAR: Offside, goal, yeah. That’s wrong that, Daz.
VAR: What?
Replay operator: On-field decision was offside. Are you happy with this image? Yeah, it’s onside. The image that we gave them is onside.
Assistant VAR: He’s played him, he’s gone offside.
VAR: Oh *expletive*
Replay operator: Delay, delay. Oli’s (PGMOL Hub Ops) saying to delay, Oli’s saying to delay.
VAR: Pardon?
Replay operator: Oli’s calling in to say delay the game. The decision is onside.
VAR: Can’t do anything.
Replay operator: Oli’s saying to delay, Oli’s saying to delay.
VAR: Oli?
Fourth official: Yeah?
Replay operator: Delay the game, to delay the game? Stop the game.
VAR: They’ve restarted the game. Can’t do anything, can’t do anything.
Assistant VAR: Yeah, they’ve restarted. Yeah.
VAR: I can’t do anything. I can’t do anything. *expletive*
I'd been inclining to the view that this was all deliberate but, if what we heard was a charade designed to cover up the fact that they purposely shafted us, they're amazing actors. What it sounds like to me is England and Hooper realising that between them they've made a king-sized lashup and just freezing on the spot.