What does the last sentence actually mean though? Are we gonna go above PGMOL and knock straight on the FA's door? They don't answer, then what?
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What does the last sentence actually mean though? Are we gonna go above PGMOL and knock straight on the FA's door? They don't answer, then what?
I don't think we need reviews. The balance at the moment on terms of what's looked at it mostly right. As Beamrider pointed out though, there's clearly a ridiculous loophole around 2 yellow cards resulting in a red - clearly both should be examined before sanctioning the sending off.
I don’t think so either and if it ever came to that it’s an admission that the officials are shit. Ideally the first yellow decision would be right, negating the need to review both but here we are. Do you trust them to review both yellows though, especially after what Mike Dean admitted a few weeks ago?
What did he say?
Let me start by saying that I have not read everything here...
What stick in my craw is Is the disallowed goal. That for me was one of the main game changers... How along after that goes Son score...??
If as it should the goal stood. i don't believe that Tottenham scores...
They would have had to line up for a restart, witch means that all the Liverpool players are now behind the ball and all the Spurs players are in their own half.
The decisions and passage of play that lead to that goal could not have been made... The whole game would have changed...
I am not saying that Spurs would have lost the game,or that Liverpool would have won only that things would have played out very differently...
The two red card for our plays...
Jones.. On what the ref was asked to look at it was always going to be red... When a ref is asked to take a look at a inccident I should have control of what it is that he sees, but it still boils down to his intreptation.
Jota's a Red... After being booked, rightly or wrongly it was a stupid tackle to be made and should have a yellow allday...
Skipp on Diaz Red absolutely
If we lost the title by one point, miss out on a champions League place, or (Extremly unlikely) we are relagated by that point whta would the FA do, if anything at all to rectify it
Had the samething cost England a place in the Euro's or World Cup you would see just how quickly they changes thing I bett that they would even ask for the match to be replayed...
But in alfairness It would not be fair to Tottenham
What stick in my craw is Is the disallowed goal. That for me was one of the main game changers... How along after that goes Son score...??
If as it should the goal stood. i don't believe that Tottenham scores...
They would have had to line up for a restart, witch means that all the Liverpool players are now behind the ball and all the Spurs players are in their own half.
The decisions and passage of play that lead to that goal could not have been made... The whole game would have changed...
I am not saying that Spurs would have lost the game,or that Liverpool would have won only that things would have played out very differently...
The two red card for our plays...
Jones.. On what the ref was asked to look at it was always going to be red... When a ref is asked to take a look at a inccident I should have control of what it is that he sees, but it still boils down to his intreptation.
Jota's a Red... After being booked, rightly or wrongly it was a stupid tackle to be made and should have a yellow allday...
Skipp on Diaz Red absolutely
If we lost the title by one point, miss out on a champions League place, or (Extremly unlikely) we are relagated by that point whta would the FA do, if anything at all to rectify it
Had the samething cost England a place in the Euro's or World Cup you would see just how quickly they changes thing I bett that they would even ask for the match to be replayed...
But in alfairness It would not be fair to Tottenham
Does the Gakpo situation where he gets injured, even happen if we are 1-0 up?
Does Jota even come on if Gakpo doesn't get injured and we're winning 1-0?
Do we lose the game 2-1?
Not only have we lost our winning streak, but Salah has lost his streak of G/As in every game. It's no wonder why he was livid in the 2nd half.
It's funny because every half decision that goes our way now, rival fans will be claiming, it's PGMOL trying to make up for their error. Ha.
We need to find recent games where VAR decisions went aginst Man United. We need to build coalition of all the teams that have been fucked over by VAR.14. Fourteen apologies PGMOL has issued to clubs in the last 12 months.
“It’s an old code, but it checks out”.
Stolen Imperial shuttle, rebel strike team to disable the power generator protecting the Death Star - clearly someone pressed the “check complete” button a little too quickly.
ah ok, consider me refreshed. Maybe we can pay the Ewoks to crush Howard Webbs car with some tree trunks.
If You have to ask why....
It's probably one of the most retarded ideas I've ever heard
The little murder bears would likely eat him and use his skull as a drum.
I think we’d all be fine with that.
Why?
Your suggestion is changing the whole nature of the punishment, from an individual's responsibility to the team's but with no further retributive justice for the offending player. This clearly may even give an advantage to the offending team if for example the penalty is missed and the foul resulted in a serious injury to the innocent party leading to the substitution and long term absence of a star player (e.g. Pickford on VvD which should have resulted in a penalty and red card). Never mind if the offending player then goes on to have a major impact on the game - when he shouldn't even be on the field.
By removing an offending player from the game one may feel it gives an unfair advantage to the team now with 11 vs. 10 but that is the nature of a Red Card and is usually only beneficial in situations where enough time remains to take advantage of the extra player (and often even not then, as we well know). Which in itself is fair enough, the individual punished but not the team per se.
So this morning, the Glazers should issue the following statement: "Sorry, Gary". Presumably he'll be happy then.
We aren't gonna get the game replayed, and they're not gonna get the goal reinstated either. Its upto the PL to sort this mess out. IMHO the PL needs to adopt Semi Automated Offside Technology ASAP. Match officiating needs to be independently audited, and poor officiating needs to be penalised/punsihed. The referees should be told to do press conferences and answer questions from the press. I think this will bring back trust and integrity to the English Game.
The only balanced solution would be to replay the game. But it would be unfair to both teams. Failing that the goal should stand. I would still be furious because we would have won that game.
The best solution given what stands is to Sue with a vengeance. Regardless of the outcome.
The best solution given what stands is to Sue with a vengeance. Regardless of the outcome.
Feck them He's right. But wrong they had Sixteen. And a plus one.
The only thing I can think of is legal action, whether domestically or via the Court of Arbitration for Sport, but the club may well not have had any specific plan in mind. I suspect they're so outraged by what happened that at this stage they want to leave all possible options open, and rightly so.
So the biggest issue for me is that goal, the rest are bad decisions which I have got used to with these English referees being such protected specimen now says.
What I don’t get is, the official explanation was VAR office assumed the onfield error had given a goal so there was no change to the decision?
What I don’t get is, are they not actually keeping account of the score? Surely they only had one game and they would soon as they realised use the VAR alert mechanism to correct decision? So many holes in their explanation we need a full through review fora transparancy sake.
VAR is not the issue here, it’s those moron humans who failed to do their job. If it was full automated like goal line then it’s more likely to work. Pointless having a human in the decisiob process because they are asleep on the job post their jollie in UAE.
What I don’t get is, the official explanation was VAR office assumed the onfield error had given a goal so there was no change to the decision?
What I don’t get is, are they not actually keeping account of the score? Surely they only had one game and they would soon as they realised use the VAR alert mechanism to correct decision? So many holes in their explanation we need a full through review fora transparancy sake.
VAR is not the issue here, it’s those moron humans who failed to do their job. If it was full automated like goal line then it’s more likely to work. Pointless having a human in the decisiob process because they are asleep on the job post their jollie in UAE.
Isn't there a rule that taking legal action against your governing body results in expulsion from the league? Or did I dream that?
Let's breakdown the options. (1) There is no football resolution on the table, awarding us points or replaying the game will destroy the game overnight with a plethora of follow up claims being lodged by every motherfucking club still around. So forget about CAS. (2) There is no financial resolution, PGMOL are a non-profit organisation, and are predominantly funded by the premier league's money, so what, we're going to pay them more money, only to then sue them to get the money back. Yeah no. Forget about a civil case. HMRC are in the process of suing them over the employment status of referees, so their lawyers are going through a dress rehearsal of how to defend themselves in the high court, we'd get utterly embarrassed if we take them on there.
That leaves one option. Either they release the audio, or we infer the audio from their secrecy, and then make a criminal complaint of match fixing. This is the most satisfactory option. But we'll end up doing nothing like the fucking pussies we are. A pity, Diaz absolutely has the right nationality, no question about it, but he's the wrong gender for me to intervene on this occasion.
That leaves one option. Either they release the audio, or we infer the audio from their secrecy, and then make a criminal complaint of match fixing. This is the most satisfactory option. But we'll end up doing nothing like the fucking pussies we are. A pity, Diaz absolutely has the right nationality, no question about it, but he's the wrong gender for me to intervene on this occasion.
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