Pre Match: Atletico Madrid (a) CL - Tuesday 20:00

[MomoWASright]

Ox did really well tonight. Apart from the spaz moment he tried to keep the ball in.

 

[rubans]

 

[RedStar]

I don’t get the whole “crap performance” lark. This is a top team at home and it’s always going to be very tough there. Great result and well done the boys.

Both those things can be true at the same time. We were largely outplayed even against 10 men. Our midfield was over run and our high line collapsed repeatedly. We are heavily indebted to our goalkeeper and the referee for the 3 points there.

But its still a very good result against one of the top 5 teams in Europe and puts us in a great position to top the group with games to spare.

 

[Frogfish]

They lost at home to Chelsea in Feb….of this year.

Hmm true. Maybe they meant at the group stage.

 

[Frogfish]

Any highlights links for those of us that could not watch - sadly. Sounds like a cracker.

YouTube - always YT.

 

[Frogfish]

So do we start Keita at OT?

We're waiting on @Brizzle to start the thread. Keep it in your pants Dreamy !

 

[Hansern]

I still dont get why we should be indebted to the referee. He did his job. Hermoso stupidly fouled Jota - pen.
Giménez dived - not a pen. It was quite clear and soft penalties arent given anymore.

 

[tombrown]

They amended it later.

Still says it on the BBC webpage this morning - https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/58958584

I feel I should write a stiffly worded letter to my MP about it ... but I don't have an MP

 

[Brizzle]

We're waiting on @Brizzle to start the thread. Keep it in your pants Dreamy !

damn straight

100% record still going strong

 

[Modo]

The weirdest thing about tonight's game is that Ox has been very good.

Great! Sell him before the next dip.

 

[Judge Jules]

I still dont get why we should be indebted to the referee. He did his job. Hermoso stupidly fouled Jota - pen.
Giménez dived - not a pen. It was quite clear and soft penalties arent given anymore.

I don't think it's that simple. The referee was under massive pressure with some of those decisions and - after an iffy start - largely resisted it.

 

[Hansern]

I don't think it's that simple. The referee was under massive pressure with some of those decisions and - after an iffy start - largely resisted it.

Dont get me wrong, I’m impressed that he actually overturned the decision. Took some balls to look at the screen and do the right thing infront of that crowd.
But it was the right call. VAR actually worked.

 

[Frogfish]

Still says it on the BBC webpage this morning - https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/58958584

I feel I should write a stiffly worded letter to my MP about it ... but I don't have an MP

Ah yours was the one dusted last week I assume.

 

[Brizzle]

I don't think it's that simple. The referee was under massive pressure with some of those decisions and - after an iffy start - largely resisted it.

Agree with JJ here. Takes a lot for a referee to admit that their decision was a 'clear and obvious error', most PL referees would use the replay to justify their original decision rather than look at it with fresh eyes for what it is. The crowd was wild, the bench was screaming at him, the players surrounding him. It would have been very easy to stick with the penalty

 

[tombrown]

Ah yours was the one dusted last week I assume.

Airey Neave 😉

 

[Hansern]

Agree with JJ here. Takes a lot for a referee to admit that their decision was a 'clear and obvious error', most PL referees would use the replay to justify their original decision rather than look at it with fresh eyes for what it is. The crowd was wild, the bench was screaming at him, the players surrounding him. It would have been very easy to stick with the penalty

Yeah, as I said, I was impressed that he actually overturned it. He made the right call and blocked out the surroundings. Credit to him for getting it right.
Can nearly forgive him for the ridiculous yellow on Milner.

 

[Markeh]

Yeah, as I said, I was impressed that he actually overturned it. He made the right call and blocked out the surroundings. Credit to him for getting it right.
Can nearly forgive him for the ridiculous yellow on Milner.

I was just impressed that he watched every angle, i know there’s a problem with VAR decisions taking too much time but imo given penalties are top of the list of acceptable situations to take a bit longer.

 

[Dreambeliever]

Eh no Fab, Hendo, and Curtis.

Me likey

 

[bluebell]

As an oil painting this would look superb in a man's cave

 

[Dreambeliever]

We're waiting on @Brizzle to start the thread. Keep it in your pants Dreamy !

This was my subtle nudge!

 

[LeTallecWiz]

Both those things can be true at the same time. We were largely outplayed even against 10 men. Our midfield was over run and our high line collapsed repeatedly. We are heavily indebted to our goalkeeper and the referee for the 3 points there.

But its still a very good result against one of the top 5 teams in Europe and puts us in a great position to top the group with games to spare.

Why? He did his job ... not like we got any favors.

 

[MomoWASright]

Why? He did his job ... not like we got any favors.

I thought the ref was shocking for the period between the red card and our penalty.

 

[SummerOnions]

 

[LeTallecWiz]

I thought the ref was shocking for the period between the red card and our penalty.

Yeah, but it's tough to make the right call when you have diving, cheating cunts ...

 

[Donavan Ried]

Well It was hard at time Alt Madrid are a top side. The sending off of Antoine Griezmann was a massive game changer, and had he not been sent off I chould see the game swinging in Alt favour.
We only need a win in the next three games to go through.Then the next two games we can play the frigne players,Keep players fit for the PL
Would love it to be against ALT in the reverse fixture, (don't fancy meeting them a third time) Hope porto can beat Ac,beat or draw with ALT, and a draw vs us would see ALT out

Roll on the 3rd Nov

 

[Donavan Ried]

So do we start Keita at OT?

If it we go with Henderson and Fabs, then hell yes we start Volley Keita
Last night he did nothing wrong as such. Could have been better, but for me he was less of a liability than Milner. think that we forget just how good ALT are on the ball. Even with ten men they put us under pressure

 

[Red Mullet]

If it we go with Henderson and Fabs, then hell yes we start Volley Keita
Last night he did nothing wrong as such. Could have been better, but for me he was less of a liability than Milner. think that we forget just how good ALT are on the ball. Even with ten men they put us under pressure

He did nothing wrong?

He was bypassed like a school boy.

 

[Woland]

I don't get how some people can't see the obvious flaws in Keita. He's obviously got a certain amount of skill but his concentration doesn't exist.

 

[Beamrider]

I thought the ref was shocking for the period between the red card and our penalty.

Completely agree with this, he caved to a lot of pressure from the Atletico players on the field. But those mis-judgements were mostly on soft decisions. When it came to the big calls, he had the bollocks to give the decisions, despite the pressure from the crowd and the Tom Jones tribute act on the touch line. Fair play. That IS unusual...

 

[Farkmaster]

I don't get how some people can't see the obvious flaws in Keita. He's obviously got a certain amount of skill but his concentration doesn't exist.

Klopp certainly sees it. His discipline off the ball is just not there, and like it or lump it, that's where Klopp starts with a midfielder.