Poulsen, Jovanovic, Lucas
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Unless Johnson is playing RW, you can add him to the list.
I hope Brendan doesn't reply in this thread, or Ryan might get upset.
[quote author=LeTallecWiz link=topic=43592.msg1251205#msg1251205 date=1294869225]
Unless Johnson is playing RW, you can add him to the list.
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but why should he play right wing? a serious question?
1. has he done anything to prove he could be decent there?
2. does he deserve to?
Sure, I know we have fuck all options, but I just can't accept it at the moment.
Unless Johnson is playing RW, you can add him to the list.
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but why should he play right wing? a serious question?
1. has he done anything to prove he could be decent there?
2. does he deserve to?
Sure, I know we have fuck all options, but I just can't accept it at the moment.
Ideally we would sell about 75% of the squad. We're not going to get anywhere with this fucking hord of shite.
Fuck it, I'm going to watch Dexter. I hope it's an episode where he breaks into Melwood and goes on a mass killing spree.
Fuck it, I'm going to watch Dexter. I hope it's an episode where he breaks into Melwood and goes on a mass killing spree.
[quote author=SaintGeorge67 link=topic=43592.msg1251220#msg1251220 date=1294869312]
[quote author=LeTallecWiz link=topic=43592.msg1251205#msg1251205 date=1294869225]
Unless Johnson is playing RW, you can add him to the list.
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but why should he play right wing? a serious question?
1. has he done anything to prove he could be decent there?
2. does he deserve to?
Sure, I know we have fuck all options, but I just can't accept it at the moment.
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b/c it's the only position he can actually do something positive for our club without fucking us over ... if it's not this position, he's finished. Kelly is a better RB, full stop.
[quote author=LeTallecWiz link=topic=43592.msg1251205#msg1251205 date=1294869225]
Unless Johnson is playing RW, you can add him to the list.
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but why should he play right wing? a serious question?
1. has he done anything to prove he could be decent there?
2. does he deserve to?
Sure, I know we have fuck all options, but I just can't accept it at the moment.
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b/c it's the only position he can actually do something positive for our club without fucking us over ... if it's not this position, he's finished. Kelly is a better RB, full stop.
Johnson is shite at defending, but doesn't mean he's not a good player.
The problem is, since we can't actually attack well, he's being asked to defend more often than he should.
Look at Clichy.. is he a good defender? Assou Ekotto? Rafael? Alves? Was Roberto Carlos really that good at defending? Put them in this Liverpool side and i'm sure they'd look shite too.
Ultimately, we bought GlenJo for his abilities going forward. He did well at first, funnily enough when we were controlling games and had a competent centre midfield of Alonso and Mascherano.
But now we're not controlling games, his defensive frailties are being well and truly exposed.
In a good attacking team, he's a good player. There are about 10 players in our squad i'd sell before him.
The problem is, since we can't actually attack well, he's being asked to defend more often than he should.
Look at Clichy.. is he a good defender? Assou Ekotto? Rafael? Alves? Was Roberto Carlos really that good at defending? Put them in this Liverpool side and i'm sure they'd look shite too.
Ultimately, we bought GlenJo for his abilities going forward. He did well at first, funnily enough when we were controlling games and had a competent centre midfield of Alonso and Mascherano.
But now we're not controlling games, his defensive frailties are being well and truly exposed.
In a good attacking team, he's a good player. There are about 10 players in our squad i'd sell before him.
Reina, Gerrard, Torres, Agger, Kelly.
As for the rest: arsed at the moment.
And we all know Crapsen and Lucarse shouldn't be Liverpool players, and it's been obvious from the start.
As for the rest: arsed at the moment.
And we all know Crapsen and Lucarse shouldn't be Liverpool players, and it's been obvious from the start.
[quote author=Shelvey link=topic=43592.msg1251242#msg1251242 date=1294869448]
Kuyt is on that list, he's been horrendous for 2 years almost.
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the duracell bunny who keeps working hard who has the worst first touch is slow as hell the slowest right winger in the entirepremworld .
Kuyt is on that list, he's been horrendous for 2 years almost.
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the duracell bunny who keeps working hard who has the worst first touch is slow as hell the slowest right winger in the entire
[quote author=ibromurph link=topic=43592.msg1251266#msg1251266 date=1294869673]
Johnson is shite at defending, but doesn't mean he's not a good player.
The problem is, since we can't actually attack well, he's being asked to defend more often than he should.
Look at Clichy.. is he a good defender? Assou Ekotto? Rafael? Alves? Was Roberto Carlos really that good at defending? Put them in this Liverpool side and i'm sure they'd look shite too.
Ultimately, we bought GlenJo for his abilities going forward. He did well at first, funnily enough when we were controlling games and had a competent centre midfield of Alonso and Mascherano.
But now we're not controlling games, his defensive frailties are being well and truly exposed.
In a good attacking team, he's a good player. There are about 10 players in our squad before him.
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Good points.
Johnson is shite at defending, but doesn't mean he's not a good player.
The problem is, since we can't actually attack well, he's being asked to defend more often than he should.
Look at Clichy.. is he a good defender? Assou Ekotto? Rafael? Alves? Was Roberto Carlos really that good at defending? Put them in this Liverpool side and i'm sure they'd look shite too.
Ultimately, we bought GlenJo for his abilities going forward. He did well at first, funnily enough when we were controlling games and had a competent centre midfield of Alonso and Mascherano.
But now we're not controlling games, his defensive frailties are being well and truly exposed.
In a good attacking team, he's a good player. There are about 10 players in our squad before him.
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Good points.
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[quote author=Mamma Mia link=topic=43592.msg1251232#msg1251232 date=1294869386]
Reina, Gerrard, Babel?
[/quote]Oh i forgot Saint Ryan.
Ok 4. Youve gotta keep Torres right? Just give him a team that can actually play well and help him do his ting.
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Okay, with the return of the hairband he can stay.
[quote author=Mamma Mia link=topic=43592.msg1251232#msg1251232 date=1294869386]
Reina, Gerrard, Babel?
[/quote]Oh i forgot Saint Ryan.
Ok 4. Youve gotta keep Torres right? Just give him a team that can actually play well and help him do his ting.
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Okay, with the return of the hairband he can stay.
Is Kuyt really working as hard as he was a couple of seasons back?
I'm honestly not seeing it like that. The management will hopefully have some metrics to analyze that properly and sell him.
I'm honestly not seeing it like that. The management will hopefully have some metrics to analyze that properly and sell him.
I believe players like Skrtel (Evans), Kuyt (Park Ji Sung) and even Lucas (Gibson) have a place in a revamped Liverpool squad. They are good enough 3rd/4th choice players (the Manc players in brackets, are in my mind their equivalents).
Whilst the Mancs use the likes of Evans, Park and Gibson sparingly, the problem for us is, our lot are getting paid the wages of first choice players and we are relying on them as first choice players.
Like Rosco said before, our wage bill vs the of our quality of players is very poor. For sure, it must be the worst value for money in the league.
Whilst the Mancs use the likes of Evans, Park and Gibson sparingly, the problem for us is, our lot are getting paid the wages of first choice players and we are relying on them as first choice players.
Like Rosco said before, our wage bill vs the of our quality of players is very poor. For sure, it must be the worst value for money in the league.
Kuyt and Jovanovic
Fucking hell. Why?
Anyone with at least one partially sighted eye knows that we are in desperate need of wide players in this or any other window, but still there's no excuse for either of these two to be playing in the wide positions.
Can anyone honestly say that any of the young reserves (Suso, Ince, Amoo, Bruna etc) would have done any worse tonight?
It's not like anyone hasn't already witnessed hundreds of hours of watching Kuyt slowly (and I mean slowly) fuck up 99% of our play down the right with a shit pass, shuffle inside or 10 yard attempted ball control. And Jovanovic looks like he's being controlled by someone playing Fifa2011 for the first time.
At least play a skilful kid on one of the flanks until we buy better, please Kenny.
Fucking hell. Why?
Anyone with at least one partially sighted eye knows that we are in desperate need of wide players in this or any other window, but still there's no excuse for either of these two to be playing in the wide positions.
Can anyone honestly say that any of the young reserves (Suso, Ince, Amoo, Bruna etc) would have done any worse tonight?
It's not like anyone hasn't already witnessed hundreds of hours of watching Kuyt slowly (and I mean slowly) fuck up 99% of our play down the right with a shit pass, shuffle inside or 10 yard attempted ball control. And Jovanovic looks like he's being controlled by someone playing Fifa2011 for the first time.
At least play a skilful kid on one of the flanks until we buy better, please Kenny.
Re: Kuyt and Jovanovic
[quote author=Buddha link=topic=43592.msg1251318#msg1251318 date=1294870173]
And Jovanovic looks like he's being controlled by someone playing Fifa2011 for the first time.
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Ha...this made me laugh...
Thanks.
[quote author=Buddha link=topic=43592.msg1251318#msg1251318 date=1294870173]
And Jovanovic looks like he's being controlled by someone playing Fifa2011 for the first time.
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Ha...this made me laugh...
Thanks.
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[quote author=Buddha link=topic=43592.msg1251318#msg1251318 date=1294870173]
And Jovanovic looks like he's being controlled by someone playing Fifa2011 for the first time.
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Ha...this made me laugh...
Thanks.
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+1. Made me chuckle. Very apt. Like I said after his first game, he's a brutal footballer who lacks any sort of finesse.
[quote author=Buddha link=topic=43592.msg1251318#msg1251318 date=1294870173]
And Jovanovic looks like he's being controlled by someone playing Fifa2011 for the first time.
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Ha...this made me laugh...
Thanks.
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+1. Made me chuckle. Very apt. Like I said after his first game, he's a brutal footballer who lacks any sort of finesse.
I mentioned the same 3 players as well as Skrtl in a a new thread I started but in all honesty there are more players in our squad that need to be fucked off rather than kept.
Our entire squad needs overhauling.
We need a new direction cos we right now, we truly heading towards relegation.
We've just played our 21st league game and have a 25 points and a -4 goal difference and the scary part is that I'm not confident of us beating anybody anymore.
Our entire squad needs overhauling.
We need a new direction cos we right now, we truly heading towards relegation.
We've just played our 21st league game and have a 25 points and a -4 goal difference and the scary part is that I'm not confident of us beating anybody anymore.
[quote author=kingjulian link=topic=43592.msg1251336#msg1251336 date=1294870327]
[quote author=Buddha link=topic=43592.msg1251318#msg1251318 date=1294870173]
And Jovanovic looks like he's being controlled by someone playing Fifa2011 for the first time.
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Ha...this made me laugh...
Thanks.
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Hahahahah so true!
[quote author=Buddha link=topic=43592.msg1251318#msg1251318 date=1294870173]
And Jovanovic looks like he's being controlled by someone playing Fifa2011 for the first time.
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Ha...this made me laugh...
Thanks.
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Hahahahah so true!
[quote author=robinhood link=topic=43592.msg1251419#msg1251419 date=1294871496]
----------Torres-----?
--?--Gerrard---?--Johnson
-Wilson Agger Carra Kelly
------------Reina
Perhaps Johnson wouldn't work out on the right, then we'd need two wingers
Meireles and Kuyt and one or two others can stay as squad players
[/quote]If you took out everyone who there is genuine worrying question marks over it would look like this
--------------------------REINA------------------------------
Kelly-----------?-?-------------------?-?-----------------?-?-
--------------------------------------------------------------
------------------?-?-------------Gerrard---------------------
?-?-------------------------------------------------------?-?
---------------?-?-----------------Torres--------------------
How fucking shit is that.
Argue with it? You cant.
----------Torres-----?
--?--Gerrard---?--Johnson
-Wilson Agger Carra Kelly
------------Reina
Perhaps Johnson wouldn't work out on the right, then we'd need two wingers
Meireles and Kuyt and one or two others can stay as squad players
[/quote]If you took out everyone who there is genuine worrying question marks over it would look like this
--------------------------REINA------------------------------
Kelly-----------?-?-------------------?-?-----------------?-?-
--------------------------------------------------------------
------------------?-?-------------Gerrard---------------------
?-?-------------------------------------------------------?-?
---------------?-?-----------------Torres--------------------
How fucking shit is that.
Argue with it? You cant.
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