"Clearly isn't ever going to score enough goals for a team that wants to challenge and win trophies"...
Cant you just make this your signature?
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"Clearly isn't ever going to score enough goals for a team that wants to challenge and win trophies"...
Cant you just make this your signature?
As long as Firmino is part of - and contributes to - a team which is the league's most prolific (and we are), there is no issue.
Very good player is Firmino.
" Matip (7) Another who has been poor in recent weeks " What utter tripe.
That was a great match, some fantastic football on display despite the match being played at 100 mph for the most part.
Firmino was incredible, his defensive work is somewhat overlooked. The chance he had near the end where he cleared the ball in our own area and broke the whole length of the pitch would have been an incredible goal.
That was a great match, some fantastic football on display despite the match being played at 100 mph for the most part.
Firmino was incredible, his defensive work is somewhat overlooked. The chance he had near the end where he cleared the ball in our own area and broke the whole length of the pitch would have been an incredible goal.
Gini and Can hardily passed to each other. Which is interesting.Can's average position is probably a bit further forward than usual but still playing deeper than our other midfielders.
Can's average position is probably a bit further forward than usual but still playing deeper than our other midfielders.
It seems Coutinho is too central here? He should create more Width for us to have even more rooms for Lallana and Gini to attack?
He will always move inside. He isn't a natural wide player because he isn't quick enough and wants to be more central and involved.
We only have one natural wide attacking player.
As our main attacker, it's a true statement, Brendan has said repeatedly that he is a good player, just not someone who should be leading the line for a challenger, which is entirely true and will be proven in the summer when we predictably by a goalscorer. Firmino has his place, but we need goals as well. I really don't understand the problem. We'll buy a centre back as well and then the Klavan criticism will have been justified too. But hey ho, we knew that ages ago.
That game perfectly highlighted the strengths and weaknesses of Firmino. The reason we looked so good going forward was because the way he ran the channels, linked the play, his movement in general, and obviously he won the penalty. However the reason we didn't win is because of his lack of composure and inconsistent finishing capability, it's a frustrating juxtaposition.
Clyne is annoying me.
Not our biggest problem, and his defending was a tad better yesterday, but he is so slow-witted going forward it drives me insane. If it wasnt so nip and tuck for CL places, I'd be screaming for a run for TAA to the end of the season (and I'm not even that sold on him yet).
Not our biggest problem, and his defending was a tad better yesterday, but he is so slow-witted going forward it drives me insane. If it wasnt so nip and tuck for CL places, I'd be screaming for a run for TAA to the end of the season (and I'm not even that sold on him yet).
There is no problem. We all agree we need more goals from our strikers and that we hopefully will buy a top class striker this summer.
Its more the Arn like obsession to include these views in every post. Its all a bit tiring. We get it now after 300 000 posts about the same subject.
Arn pissed off everyone with the Lucas obsession in every post and was binned off the site in the end.
But he is Our main attacker. Basically because the other option (Sturridge) has gone Down the drain for reasons I don't think anyone can find a rational explanation for. So make a fucking thread discussing if Firmino is scoring enough goals (probably not), if the team is better With him (probably yes for the time), would he fit in behind the striker in a different system (could be but he has been gash out left) etc etc. Don't make the same fucking statement in every fucking thread or post on the forum. It gets annoying. People use their time to come on to discuss Liverpool in general, not only if Firmino scores enough goals or not.
We clearly don't have a main attacker in the traditional number 9 sense and we score the most with Firmino playing a big role in both defence and attack. What actually is the problem?
And I'm not so sure we'll buy a goalscorer to replace Firmino in the summer, as scoring goals is obviously not an issue for us. Money is likely to go elsewhere, methinks.
Your obsession with defending every player from any piece of criticism, no matter how valid, is more annoying.
Had a crap performance or aren't good enough?
Don't worry Hansern is here, to post a misleading or completely irrelevant stat to defend the amazing Liverpool player from the nasty people on the internet.
Here's a suggestion, try ignoring him!
Haha! Every player? Now that, is some overstatement. I've been defending Karius, Wijnaldum, Firmino and Origi when the criticism havent been warranted. Thats what, 4 out 20 players in the first team squad?
Sounds like you should have me on ignore.
I remember a City fan saying that he'd been disrespectful to them in interviews when he left for us so perhaps that explains it.
Still seems a little harsh / odd though.
He was also directly up against Sterling, who was getting abuse from LFC fans, so that probably contributed.
I wonder if they are playing tit for tat because of our relentless booing of Sterling.
Yeah - I think that is what it was. Shame really I always thought of city to have a bit more class about them. Oh well. As for Brendan and his rather dull, constant, monotonous criticism of Firmino. It's like he was/is with Lucas and before then Yossi (Casper) Benayoun from before he was banned. It's boring and not necessary but I'm guessing everyone knows that anyway...
Really? Why?
Ah, didnt know that. As you say though, it seems a little harsh.
I don't know. I guess because I know a few of them. They always seems pretty sound to me. Like a humble team that has come good but not forgotten that they were once shit and living in the shadow of their corporate neighbours. Personnel experience - Each to their own but I've always had a bit of soft spot for City.
He often needs a run of games to get going. He's shite if he's in and out the side or returning from injury. He also recently said he's been playing with a calf injury all year that is now rectified.
Yeah, Klopp said this aswell after the game. Maybe that calf injury has really hindered him in playing his natural game. He was outstanding yesterday.
In the Burnley game to an extent and certainly yesterday we saw his rollicking gallops up the field that I had almost forgotten about. Great to see.
Some of his runs from midfield yesterday were immense. Old Yaya and then later Fernandinho could barely hang on.
And that pass to Firmino when we were awarded the penalty. Ace.
Heh, innit.
It's only a problem if you a) actually read his ratings, or b) deem them worthy of angst or comment.
Different opposition with markedly different playing styles mostly. Burnley were more direct and early, so Can's positioning nominally in front of the four was to pick up second balls, and guard the knock down.
Against City, he - like Wijnaldum and the rest of the midfield and front 4/5 - pressed higher and quicker as City always attempt to play out from the back. The hope being one of them would steal possession in the first-press and we spring from there. He retreated to the DM role in the second half to protect the lead as we dropped deeper.
I knew mentioning a chalkboard was like a bat signal for Ryan. Nicely explained though! Surprising that our midfielders end up deeper against dross like Burnley but there you go.
Well only deeper when the opposition have the ball. This is part of the quandry with our current midfielders; against the likes of City away from home - they're perfect. Energetic, sharp, can nick possession, run all day, and can break or release Frimino, Mance, Coutinho, etc.
But at home to Burnely and the equiavlent, none of them are good enough in possession to alter the shape of a game. They can't create pockets of space, they can't raise or slow the tempo, they aren't dilligent enough to wait for or manufacture an opening. They just ping it from side to side nauseatingly.
Wijnaldum, Hendo and Can are all too similar unfortunately. Midfielders that are more attuned to being reactive than proactive.
But at home to Burnely and the equiavlent, none of them are good enough in possession to alter the shape of a game. They can't create pockets of space, they can't raise or slow the tempo, they aren't dilligent enough to wait for or manufacture an opening. They just ping it from side to side nauseatingly.
Wijnaldum, Hendo and Can are all too similar unfortunately. Midfielders that are more attuned to being reactive than proactive.
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