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How to rate that performance?

I was positiv surprised about the way the midfield reacted to last game. Kept the ball well and pressed togetger.

Some difficulties defensively, but credits to an aggressive and strong opponent. I thought we coped well with a lot they threw our way.

Good attacking movements in high tempo. Should have had a matchwinning goal somewhere there.

All in all the best two teams of "super" sunday (by far) and a performance to build on!
 
Yeah, good performance against a strong side with some stellar attackers - neither side deserved to lose. Good to see what Can can be capable of on his day. We could have nicked it but I was satisfied with a point.
 
Unfortunately we're going to have to bide our time for a few weeks before the monthly 'what does Wijnaldum do?' thread, given he's been fucking outstanding for the last two games against Arsenal and City.

If you don't rate Gini, then fuck knows what you're watching.
 
Watched it in a bar in lanzarote and I honestly thought it was best game of the season. Could have won or lost. Can and wini immense.
 
I thought both teams were outstanding today, a really good game for the neutral, and whilst an annoying slip up now with things so tight, in the long run it's not the worst result by any stretch. Can and Matip were the stand outs for me, thought both absolutely bossed their respective areas, however truth be told every player played well today. Hopefully we can build on this and string some victories together.
 
How good is Milner on the pens? They are always hit with precision and power, none of the keepers even came close to keeping one out.
 
Games like that - and I don't think this often frankly - are ones that would have been great to bring Danny Ings on.

Just his pace and general nuisance factor would have been a terrific asset to bring off the bench. City had a predominantly high line, and you could see Mane tiring, so someone like Ings would have been perfect. Nipping around, eager, could have nicked something.

I don't really think he'll be that great for us, but there've been times when we could have definitely done with him. Yesterday being on of them.
 
Unfortunately we're going to have to bide our time for a few weeks before the monthly 'what does Wijnaldum do?' thread, given he's been fucking outstanding for the last two games against Arsenal and City.

If you don't rate Gini, then fuck knows what you're watching.

It will be started by Brendan I reckon
 
It will be started by Brendan I reckon

I hope not, he's been playing well. If I start a thread or discussion about a player, it's inevitably about an issue or problem I have identified early, before it becomes a widely accepted fact.

Let's hope it doesn't happen with any more of our players. That woudk be a shame.
 
How to rate that performance?

I was positiv surprised about the way the midfield reacted to last game. Kept the ball well and pressed togetger.

Some difficulties defensively, but credits to an aggressive and strong opponent. I thought we coped well with a lot they threw our way.

Good attacking movements in high tempo. Should have had a matchwinning goal somewhere there.

All in all the best two teams of "super" sunday (by far) and a performance to build on!

Can was our best player. He was superb.
 
That was a great game to watch, it 's the reason sky pay so much for the rights and why football fans of all teams are so mad for the game.

We had a few moments when we should have won it and a similar number when we should have lost. Thrilling!
 
Can was our best player. He was superb.

Really hard to call out the best. Can was very mobile and a rock at the same time. One of his best games. Wijnaldum was excellent, as were the front three at times. Hell even Ming had a decent game!
 
I felt that we at 1-0, we were still slugging it out with them going for a knockout whereas we could've picked our moments a little better.

You don't need to expose yourself to the counter so often from a winning position.

That element was a little disappointing but meh, no surprise.

All in all, a good point against a very good side that needed to make a statement.
 
I felt that we at 1-0, we were still slugging it out with them going for a knockout whereas we could've picked our moments a little better.

You don't need to expose yourself to the counter so often from a winning position.

That element was a little disappointing but meh, no surprise.

All in all, a good point against a very good side that needed to make a statement.
Honestly I think we played it well, we just didn't take our chances, we had three, Lallana with one, Firmino with the other two, we should have buried the game.
 
Honestly I think we played it well, we just didn't take our chances, we had three, Lallana with one, Firmino with the other two, we should have buried the game.

Draw was fair enough.

They missed a shitload of chances too, hit the post and also had a certain penalty turned down.

I suppose it could be argued that we would have won if we had a decent striker, but whatever.
 
Wijnaldum can sometimes be a magician with the ball. That pass to Firmino before Lallana's brain fart or whatever you want to call it, was absolutely amazing.
Looked at the replay and even fucking Otamendi reacted with disbelief.
 
Did Klopp change something tactically in midfield? Neither Can or Gini seemed to be holding. If we remember last week against Burnley where Can seemed to be sitting in Matip and Klavan's laps, in this game he had plenty of opportunity for buccaneering forays up field, and he Gini seemed to play closely together. I don't know if this was tactical or just the way the game shaped up. Any chalkboard types want to do the analysis?
 
Did Klopp change something tactically in midfield? Neither Can or Gini seemed to be holding. If we remember last week against Burnley where Can seemed to be sitting in Matip and Klavan's laps, in this game he had plenty of opportunity for buccaneering forays up field, and he Gini seemed to play closely together. I don't know if this was tactical or just the way the game shaped up. Any chalkboard types want to do the analysis?

Can's average position is probably a bit further forward than usual but still playing deeper than our other midfielders.

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How can Can go from being complete and utter shite to man of the match in 2 games?

It was a bit same pattern as last spring? His form raised and he was real good in March and April. I think the injuries has been affecting him more than anticipated?
 
Seems like a good enough place for the ratings to go. Draw was fair, and both sides created - and wasted - plenty of chances in what was a frenetic and at times high quality game of football. But we can't afford to drop too many points if we want to make the Top 4.

Mignolet (7) There was lots happening around his box all afternoon, but he coped with most of it well enough.

Clyne (7) Much improved display, and had to be against the speedy and inventive Sane. A great battle.

Matip (7) Another who has been poor in recent weeks, but far more calm and composed here. Usual dreadful headed attempt, but better in the air defensively than he has been lately, and passed well.

Klavan (6) Some wobbly moments and occasionally left for dead by City's lightning pace and movement, but he kept his discipline and worked hard, even if his limitations are obvious to everyone.

Milner (7) In the first half it looked like the quicksilver Sterling was going to deal indelible and lasting damage, but Milner - as ever - refused to yield and simply kept plugging away, doing his best to keep him at bay. Typically nerveless penalty.

Can (8) Our best player, and one of those games which remind you what a player he could be, if he had any consistency. Great passing range, got forward well, wrestled back possession and was the dominant force in midfield.

Wijnaldum (8) Clever movement, incisive passing, strong when he had the ball. This was impressive indeed, and wasn't far behind Can for MOTM plaudits.

Lallana (6) Worked very hard and had a better game than his last couple of mediocre outings. Missed a sitter, which is no real surprise given he hasn't scored in the league since December, but he'll never be a reliable source of goals so it's hard to be too annoyed. Needs to do more with the ball.

Coutinho (5) Only showed any glimpses of quality in the second half, following an opening 45 minutes of desolate, abject football. Don't know what's wrong with him, but isn't justifying his place in the side

Mane (7) Caused Otamendi and co a collective shitfit with his pace, movement and general attacking play. Easily our most dangerous player, even if his own feet were outpaced by his brain on occasion.

Firmino (7) It's hard to rate him sometimes, given we're all long past the point of ever expecting him to actually score goals regularly. Or even irregularly. Or even ever. But he was much, much better than some of his recent displays, won a penalty and also gave Lallana an easy opportunity. Clearly isn't ever going to score enough goals for a team that wants to challenge and win trophies, but played well.
 
He said he played well and gave him a 7.

Brendan likes to have a dig at players he doesn't rate.

Why is that such a problem?
Because it appears in half the posts he makes. It's childish in the extreme but then Brendan is never one to hold back on players he dislikes even if it belittles his stature and waters down his opinion.
 
He said he played well and gave him a 7.

Brendan likes to have a dig at players he doesn't rate.

Why is that such a problem?

It is not a problem.... Just in the long run it gets a bit dull. Like when the kid is fascinated that poo is brown and then points it out still when he is 13. People use this site for discussions about Liverpool, and if the only thing you discuss in Your 25 000 + posts is that Firmino doesn't score enough goals in one or another version it makes the whole forum a little bit boring.
 
Mignolet : 7.5 probably the best he's played all season
Milner : 7 first half he definitely had a problem with Sterling and twice Klavan saved his ass because he'd gone AWOL. Much better in the second.
Klavan : 7 damn good game against a team where I thought his lack of pace may get found out.
Matip : 7.5 Had Aguero in his pocket for most of the game. I'm not sure if Aguero's move across to target Klavan was a Guardiola tactic.
Clyne : 8 Thought he had a great game.
Can : 8.5 superb and his forward rampaging runs took a lot of pressure off of us, brilliantly picked out Firmino.
Wijnaldum : 9 quite simply this was a masterpiece of a performance, no wonder YaYa was subbed off. In defence and attack he was quite superb.
Coutinho : 6 at times I thought his runs and interplay with Firmino were going to pay off. A little unlucky but still disturbing that he's been off the boil for so long.
Lallana : 7 back to his all action best. Pity I have to deduct a point for that horrendous miss.
Mane : 8 I wish his short passing was better. I wish he was a better decision maker and took on defenders more without needing a through-ball. Otherwise wonderful.
Firmino : 8 Easily to see why Klopp sees him as an automatic starter, superb control, ingenuity and tirelessly harassed the City defence. Should have scored though so loses a point for that.


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Origi : 7 I'm not quite sure what people expected him to do but quite clearly he was helping out in defence (wings), where Coutinho goes missing, as well as proving an attacking threat with his pace. Thought he did fine even though we'd started to become more defensive after his introduction in the 73rd min. after dominating from the 50th thru 65/70mins.
 
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He said he played well and gave him a 7.

Brendan likes to have a dig at players he doesn't rate.

Why is that such a problem?

I dont really see the point. Thats why. When you've read something 23 534 times, you get it. Move on.
Its like Arn and Lucas.
 
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