The timings of the goals made it worse. 5 minutes to half time keep it tight. Get in at 2-0 and they are out of it. Then Milner did his best Lucas impression, not only once, but did it again after he failed the first time.
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The timings of the goals made it worse. 5 minutes to half time keep it tight. Get in at 2-0 and they are out of it. Then Milner did his best Lucas impression, not only once, but did it again after he failed the first time.
As much as we’re frustrated about the result and the fact that the title is probably gone the way of City again, I have to say from purely football perspective the first half was one of the most enjoyable games I’ve seen in some time. It had an old-school feel about it; two teams going for tempo and intensity above all else; even with some players lacking form or fitness the commitment from both sets of players was superb. A lot of times the ball was just booted high from one half of the pitch to another with everyone fighting for the rebound, like an Old Firm derby from the 90’s. And the Salah and Kovacic goals were just moments of pure top-notch quality, as were some of the saves by Kelleher and Mendy.
I thought it was a red, to be honest, even I’d Asspicker made a meal of it.
This should be Milner's last season, his age is catching up with him.
I read Fabizio Romans dribble, which proves he knows nothing, just repeating what the owners have uttered a few seasons ago, about signing someone not as a stopgap but who will improve the squad not with sky high price tag.
I read Fabizio Romans dribble, which proves he knows nothing, just repeating what the owners have uttered a few seasons ago, about signing someone not as a stopgap but who will improve the squad not with sky high price tag.
Who knows what a red is these days? Or a pen? Or anything?
Basically how I feel now - every game, it's different.
No consistency. The new way. Just like the old way but more complicated.
My feelings on the game in no particular order
1. Kelleher was excellent, hope we can hang onto him as he's a high calibre young goalkeeper. How we decided to start Adrian ahead of him at times is a mystery
2. Fabinho is the only midfielder who looks like he should be starting. Milner all sentiment aside is a walking yellow card now and Hendo is showing obvious signs of physical decline. Realistically we need 2 new midfielders in the summer. Milner should move on and Hendo should take his role as a squad player.
3. 3 years of under investment, and if I'm honest Klopps stubbornness at moving players on, have taken a toll. Our bench was a bunch of kids and Ox our answer to Jesse Lingaard
4. Trents defending is genuinely amateurish at times, not even in situations where teams target him and put him under pressure. He just implodes all on his own trying daft shit.
5. It looks increasingly like this team peaked from 2018 - 2020 there are still wonderful moments and great individuals but that sense of inevitability in getting something from the game has gone.
1. Kelleher was excellent, hope we can hang onto him as he's a high calibre young goalkeeper. How we decided to start Adrian ahead of him at times is a mystery
2. Fabinho is the only midfielder who looks like he should be starting. Milner all sentiment aside is a walking yellow card now and Hendo is showing obvious signs of physical decline. Realistically we need 2 new midfielders in the summer. Milner should move on and Hendo should take his role as a squad player.
3. 3 years of under investment, and if I'm honest Klopps stubbornness at moving players on, have taken a toll. Our bench was a bunch of kids and Ox our answer to Jesse Lingaard
4. Trents defending is genuinely amateurish at times, not even in situations where teams target him and put him under pressure. He just implodes all on his own trying daft shit.
5. It looks increasingly like this team peaked from 2018 - 2020 there are still wonderful moments and great individuals but that sense of inevitability in getting something from the game has gone.
Lingard is better than ox.
I've watched a few post match reviews now and only one guy thought it was a red (not an ex-player). All the ex-players (about 7 of them) thought it was a Yellow. To precis the comments it was because Mane went up with his eyes only on the ball, you can't jump with your arms at your side, his arm was bent and he touched him with the forearm not the elbow.
I don't think Mane's was a red. For me personally, elbows being red cards have to be intentional, and I don't think that was. I was surprised it wasn't given as a red though. He probably would've been off if it hadn't been inside the first 10 seconds.
Per : "we had so many good counters that just missed the final pass or even the little offside timing of when to go".
That has been the case so often in games this season. Where we could and should have finished teams off and then ended up conceding and drawing the match because of our messing up counters / offsides. We could have been 0-3 or 0-4 even before Kovacic's worldie.
That has been the case so often in games this season. Where we could and should have finished teams off and then ended up conceding and drawing the match because of our messing up counters / offsides. We could have been 0-3 or 0-4 even before Kovacic's worldie.
Mane's challenge wasnt a red. Yellow was correct. He leads with his arm, looks at the ball the whole time and as the refs say they look at if his fist is clenched or not. If its clenched they see at as the player is using it as a weapon and that the move is calculated.
Mane's wasnt, and even though its wreckless and stupid its not a red card offence.
Mane's wasnt, and even though its wreckless and stupid its not a red card offence.
Spot on with the first bit.
Mount's was a red as well. The whole "not enough force" argument is utterly irrelevant. There is bugger all in the rules about the amount of force used.
They're just gone for 2 games. V Brentford and Palace. Could be worse
But for both legs of league cup ... against the 2nd best team in the league currently imo ... best chance for silverware ..
I think it was a similar outcome to the Kane one on Robbo. Because the ref gave a yellow, he stayed on the pitch. VAR wasn't going to upgrade it to a red. But if the ref hadn't given a yellow card, VAR would have called him over for a review and he'd have been sent off. Same deal with Mane.
if we're worried about the league cup, we're in trouble IMHO.
Partey is the only one currently in their first eleven, but the cumulative effect of losing him and Elneny will mean they will have to rely on Xhaka, Lokonga and AMN in midfield for all their games, which could lead to other problems. I really want to win that semi-final.
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Hasn't Partey been shit for them? AFTV has been slating him this season. That said, I only watch the videos they put up when they lose.
True, he is getting some criticism this season, but he’s still their best CM - more of an 8 than a 6 though, and sometimes struggles if forced to play deeper.
I want to win something this year, so yes I'm worried about if.
He has been when they all were, but he's been prominent in their recent improvement and was some folks' MOTM in their last game
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