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So - it's basically official now after months of games by both sides.

Over 100 million quid for a talented midfielder - who can play defensive (as Deschamps had him play in the Euros) or attacking (where he did most of his damage at Juve).

I don't think I've seen one person anywhere who says he's worth 100 mill but a few thoughs ...
  • Fantastic business by Juve ... 400k and in 4 years 100 million? Sounds like my dad not investing in yahoo in the late 80s!
  • I don't really see - based on the team Mourinho is running out today - how he fits into this team. It will be interesting to see if Mourinho plays him like Deschamps did, or like Conte/Allegri did
  • With this signing, there's even more pressure on Mourinho now ... 'Win now' means their talented kids - namely Martial, Fosu etc - will struggle for any real game time. Hopefully that causes the necessary dessent to cause Van Gaal II inshallah.
 
Could he be Mourinho's new Lampard? ie, playing at the tip of a midfield three, but almost as a second striker.
 
mom said:
Top four guaranteed for manu
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Everyone said the same thing about Chelsea last year ...

Mystic said:
Could he be Mourinho's new Lampard? ie, playing at the tip of a midfield three, but almost as a second striker.
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That's a good shout BUT Pogba isn't that type of player imo. From what I've seen, he's far more likely to hit his trademark long range shoots, then ever find himself in the box ... He rarely is there as Lampard used to do constantly for them.
 
A bit like Cavani, I doubt anyone has ever seen him justify the hype in an actual game. As long as we designate at least one of us to watch all their games, perhaps Arn could serve that function, then quantum mechanically it seems he will be a certain failure.
 
LeTallecWiz said:
That's a good shout BUT Pogba isn't that type of player imo. From what I've seen, he's far more likely to hit his trademark long range shoots, then ever find himself in the box ... He rarely is there as Lampard used to do constantly for them.
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Yeh, that ability to arrive late in the box into the right position is what made Lampard such a formidable player, I'd agree that I don't think that's a strength of Pogba's game, maybe Mourinho could coach him that ability, I don't know. Originally I assumed that Mkhitaryan would be that player, as he 100% has that ability, but I just can't see Pogba being one of the midfield two, everytime I've seen him he seems a bit to adventurous for a Mourinho midfield two, which means up top is the only place left for him. It'll be interesting to see how they fit it all together, whatever way it goes, lets hope it fails spectacularly.
 
Mystic said:
Yeh, that ability to arrive late in the box into the right position is what made Lampard such a formidable player, I'd agree that I don't think that's a strength of Pogba's game, maybe Mourinho could coach him that ability, I don't know. Originally I assumed that Mkhitaryan would be that player, as he 100% has that ability, but I just can't see Pogba being one of the midfield two, everytime I've seen him he seems a bit to adventurous for a Mourinho midfield two, which means up top is the only place left for him. It'll be interesting to see how they fit it all together, whatever way it goes, lets hope it fails spectacularly.
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I still think that's where he'll try to play him - which is where I unfortunately think he'll be really good - but that means playing Pogba like Deschamps does - which basically weakens his ability to influence games in the attacking 1/3
 
Utd still lack that defensive controlling midfielder. Dont think Pogba will solve that issue.
It might work out obviously, but this signing smell more like a Galactico then a improve the balance of the team signing.
 
Pogba is the best player in the Premiership and a truly awful signing for everyone else but United.

The money is insane and no footballer should be worth that ammount, however that's the name of the game. He could well be the decisive factor for years to come - he is that good. And by that token I understand the fee.

Worst signing of the Season by a mile - from our perspective.
 
Kay Age El said:
Pogba is now the best player in the Premiership and a truly awful signing for everyone else but United.

The money is insane and no footballer should be worth that ammount, however that's the name of the game. He could well be the decisive factor for years to come - he is that good. And by that token I understand the fee.

Worst signing of the Season by a mile - from our perspective.
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..him and Zlatan both.
 
Kay Age El said:
Pogba is the best player in the Premiership and a truly awful signing for everyone else but United.

The money is insane and no footballer should be worth that ammount, however that's the name of the game. He could well be the decisive factor for years to come - he is that good. And by that token I understand the fee.

Worst signing of the Season by a mile - from our perspective.
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Is he? Lets wait and see.
 
The fee is insane. They're paying maybe 30-40 mill to much.
The fee paid to the agent is insane aswell.
Pogback is cringeworthy.
 
Hansern said:
The fee is insane. They're paying maybe 30-40 mill to much.
The fee paid to the agent is insane aswell.
Pogback is cringeworthy.
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I disagree with all of that (apart from the fee to the agent part, that's just pure unspoiled insanity really).

The fee is pretty spot on in terms of who's the selling club, quality of the player, his position, age etc. He is a unique player with so many key attributes it's almost unreal. Not unlike Gerrard at his peak. No weak areas only less great ones.
 
He's a tremendous player going/passing the ball forward but he's nowhere near Gerrard's class when it comes to covering the hard yards and putting the work in. I like him a lot and I'd rather ManUre hadn't got him, but like others I reckon there are questions to be asked about whether that side is fully balanced yet.
 
Kay Age El said:
I disagree with all of that (apart from the fee to the agent part, that's just pure unspoiled insanity really).

The fee is pretty spot on in terms of who's the selling club, quality of the player, his position, age etc. He is a unique player with so many key attributes it's almost unreal. Not unlike Gerrard at his peak. No weak areas only less great ones.
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You're high on him - I get it - and have been since you said we should sign him 4 years ago.
I'd like you to say though - in 4 years with Juve, has he ever hard to 'lead' the team? Has he ever played on a team that didn't have Serie A's best goalie? best defense? best midfield (which he was a part of)? and one of Italy's top goalscoring threats (be it Tevez or Moratta)? He's now going to a team which will need to be at its best week in, week out to be a top 4 team (as will ALL teams imo - this will be the most competitive premier league to date) ... Let's see if has it in him to lead a team which has no real midfield generals ....
 
Kay Age El said:
I disagree with all of that (apart from the fee to the agent part, that's just pure unspoiled insanity really).

The fee is pretty spot on in terms of who's the selling club, quality of the player, his position, age etc. He is a unique player with so many key attributes it's almost unreal. Not unlike Gerrard at his peak. No weak areas only less great ones.
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Did you come to London for the game? The heat has got to you. Maybe if you get back to Scandi as soon as humanly possible, then the damage ought to be reversible.
 
I've seen him play 3/4 times in the CL and a couple of Euro matches and he's looked pretty good in a handful of them and anonymous in the others .

It's a big child like mentality wise perhaps but if If a club is spending mega bucks they should be getting a match winner /goal scorer / difference maker , that's not something I've ever got from the small amount of time I've seen him .
 
Kay Age El said:
I disagree with all of that (apart from the fee to the agent part, that's just pure unspoiled insanity really).

The fee is pretty spot on in terms of who's the selling club, quality of the player, his position, age etc. He is a unique player with so many key attributes it's almost unreal. Not unlike Gerrard at his peak. No weak areas only less great ones.
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100 mill £ for him is insane mate, and he isnt close to Gerrard at all yet. Dont think he has the same qualities either.
 
He's a very good player and will (probably) improve them. The 100M thing is fucking hilarious though and embarrassing to them! I'm hoping the utd funk on transfers in the last few windows continues. There is a stench around their windows and it's glorious to sniff.

It's an absurd bit of business but then footy is all pretty fucking toxic these days. This feels like some kind of 'New Money' Death rattle! Well I'll watch it anyway but there is something a little sad about this whole affair. Agents. Fee. Loan. Returnee. World record fee. Mourinho. Smug Mancs. Then add in a 34yr old Zlatan on 300k+ a week and the world has truly gone mad!

Well you'll always reap what you sow you bunch of scum sucking cunt sacks.

I look foward to fucking nailing these shithouse cunts at Anfield. Can anyone get me a ticket? 😉
 
LeTallecWiz said:
So - it's basically official now after months of games by both sides.

Over 100 million quid for a talented midfielder - who can play defensive (as Deschamps had him play in the Euros) or attacking (where he did most of his damage at Juve).

I don't think I've seen one person anywhere who says he's worth 100 mill but a few thoughs ...
  • Fantastic business by Juve ... 400k and in 4 years 100 million? Sounds like my dad not investing in yahoo in the late 80s!
  • I don't really see - based on the team Mourinho is running out today - how he fits into this team. It will be interesting to see if Mourinho plays him like Deschamps did, or like Conte/Allegri did
  • With this signing, there's even more pressure on Mourinho now ... 'Win now' means their talented kids - namely Martial, Fosu etc - will struggle for any real game time. Hopefully that causes the necessary dessent to cause Van Gaal II inshallah.
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I think Pogba will replace Rooney by the new year in the central AM/10 role.

Rooney then competing with Zlatan and Rashford for the number 9 spot and probably 3rd in the pecking order.

So something like this 4231 or maybe 433 with Pogba further back.

--------------Zlatan

Martial--Pogba---Mkhitaryan

----Schneiderlin ------ X

Still not sure who will be the X to partner Schneiderlin and that is definitely one of the biggest weaknesses in our squad. Hopefully Fosu-Mensah can step up but it might be one season too early for him.

The fee is mental but it ain't my money.
He is nowhere near one of the best places in the world now but the reality is if they were available they wouldn't be sold for less than £120m.
 
Based on the 5-10 games I've ever seen him play, this fee looks about 80mill too much. He looks like a young kid with potential but is currently not producing it on a regular basis. 20-25mill is about the going rate for kids like him. I'd rather have had mkhitaryan or zlatan in my team over pogba, he's nowhere near the top dozen players in the world, maybe not the top 2 dozen.
 
Kay Age El said:
I didn't understand anything of that.
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Oh. 1) Pogba is closer to Lucas than Gerrard. 2) There must be something wrong with your brain. 3) It's been hot in London lately. 4) Maybe you came here to watch the Barca game. 5) Maybe the heat is what damaged your brain. 6) If you quickly get back to the milder climate of Denmark/Scandinavia, the damage can be reversed and you will recover your senses. 7) See 1.
 
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