Pepe Reina speculation
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[quote author=doctor_mac link=topic=44132.msg1295124#msg1295124 date=1299347428]
Where does he mention Utd? If he goes to Utd then we burn effigies. We never should have allowed him to have a release clause.
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He might not have mentioned Utd.himself, but he was asked directly if he'd ever sign for them and his answer was: "No player can ever say no to anything."
As far as the release clause is concerned, I can't believe we'd have volunteered such a thing. It has to have been included in response to a threat, whether express or implied, that he wouldn't sign a new deal without one.
Where does he mention Utd? If he goes to Utd then we burn effigies. We never should have allowed him to have a release clause.
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He might not have mentioned Utd.himself, but he was asked directly if he'd ever sign for them and his answer was: "No player can ever say no to anything."
As far as the release clause is concerned, I can't believe we'd have volunteered such a thing. It has to have been included in response to a threat, whether express or implied, that he wouldn't sign a new deal without one.
Fuck him.
You dismiss United entirely, or are a cunt.
That's it really.
You dismiss United entirely, or are a cunt.
That's it really.
[quote author=Krump link=topic=44132.msg1295149#msg1295149 date=1299359073]
I wouldn'pick him again. Fuck him.
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I really really dislike what he's said, but I don't see why we as a club should ourselves in the foot over this. Particularly as Reina, unlike Torres, is not playing like he doesn't give a fuck. He's one of the best goalkeepers in the world and we're paying him lots of money, so we should let him continue doing his job until the summer - when he'll be sold. But not, I seriously fucking hope, to Man Utd.
I wouldn'pick him again. Fuck him.
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I really really dislike what he's said, but I don't see why we as a club should ourselves in the foot over this. Particularly as Reina, unlike Torres, is not playing like he doesn't give a fuck. He's one of the best goalkeepers in the world and we're paying him lots of money, so we should let him continue doing his job until the summer - when he'll be sold. But not, I seriously fucking hope, to Man Utd.
The last time he had to do something he did it like he didn't give a fuck.
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He's been guilty of standing around, doing very little for quite some time.
I might be overreacting, but I think every current player is an utter cunt until proven otherwise.
Footballers are tossers, and the game needs a massive kick up the arse, which won't happen.
Footballers are tossers, and the game needs a massive kick up the arse, which won't happen.
I haven't given up on him just yet, though I could have done without that interview.
All he said was he might move on. Would you rather he pledge eternal allegiance then leave? While he's playing like he gives a shit I love him.
And Keepers make mistakes so I don't want any of this west ham shit. cech, van der sar, szezezzezzny, hart, jaaskalainen, gordon etc have all made mistakes this season.
And Keepers make mistakes so I don't want any of this west ham shit. cech, van der sar, szezezzezzny, hart, jaaskalainen, gordon etc have all made mistakes this season.
[quote author=Fabio link=topic=44132.msg1295170#msg1295170 date=1299362029]
All he said was he might move on. Would you rather he pledge eternal allegiance then leave? While he's playing like he gives a shit I love him.
And Keepers make mistakes so I don't want any of this west ham shit. cech, van der sar, szezezzezzny, hart, jaaskalainen, gordon etc have all made mistakes this season.
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You're missing the point.
He refused to rule out going to Scum.
That is not on from a Livrpool player, particularly the third longest serving player in the squad, who should know better.
I repect Fergie for refusing to sell to us a few years ago (and that was for their second chice left back) and I hope Kenny returns the favor should they come in with a bid in the summer.
All he said was he might move on. Would you rather he pledge eternal allegiance then leave? While he's playing like he gives a shit I love him.
And Keepers make mistakes so I don't want any of this west ham shit. cech, van der sar, szezezzezzny, hart, jaaskalainen, gordon etc have all made mistakes this season.
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You're missing the point.
He refused to rule out going to Scum.
That is not on from a Livrpool player, particularly the third longest serving player in the squad, who should know better.
I repect Fergie for refusing to sell to us a few years ago (and that was for their second chice left back) and I hope Kenny returns the favor should they come in with a bid in the summer.
[quote author=Squiggles link=topic=44132.msg1295160#msg1295160 date=1299360689]
He's been guilty of standing around, doing very little for quite some time.
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Bollocks.
He's been guilty of standing around, doing very little for quite some time.
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Bollocks.
[quote author=FoxForceFive link=topic=44132.msg1295176#msg1295176 date=1299370279]
[quote author=Squiggles link=topic=44132.msg1295160#msg1295160 date=1299360689]
He's been guilty of standing around, doing very little for quite some time.
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Bollocks.
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he is a goalkeeper jon
Or have I taken that in a none critical way when it was meant to be... Or your comment was sarcastic... My head hurts
[quote author=Squiggles link=topic=44132.msg1295160#msg1295160 date=1299360689]
He's been guilty of standing around, doing very little for quite some time.
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Bollocks.
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he is a goalkeeper jon
Or have I taken that in a none critical way when it was meant to be... Or your comment was sarcastic... My head hurts
[quote author=Fabio link=topic=44132.msg1295180#msg1295180 date=1299372703]
[quote author=FoxForceFive link=topic=44132.msg1295176#msg1295176 date=1299370279]
[quote author=Squiggles link=topic=44132.msg1295160#msg1295160 date=1299360689]
He's been guilty of standing around, doing very little for quite some time.
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Bollocks.
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he is a goalkeeper jon
Or have I taken that in a none critical way when it was meant to be... Or your comment was sarcastic... My head hurts
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Hahaha
[quote author=FoxForceFive link=topic=44132.msg1295176#msg1295176 date=1299370279]
[quote author=Squiggles link=topic=44132.msg1295160#msg1295160 date=1299360689]
He's been guilty of standing around, doing very little for quite some time.
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Bollocks.
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he is a goalkeeper jon
Or have I taken that in a none critical way when it was meant to be... Or your comment was sarcastic... My head hurts
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Hahaha
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[quote author=FoxForceFive link=topic=44132.msg1295176#msg1295176 date=1299370279]
[quote author=Squiggles link=topic=44132.msg1295160#msg1295160 date=1299360689]
He's been guilty of standing around, doing very little for quite some time.
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Bollocks.
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o-O
[quote author=Squiggles link=topic=44132.msg1295160#msg1295160 date=1299360689]
He's been guilty of standing around, doing very little for quite some time.
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Bollocks.
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o-O
[quote author=Fabio link=topic=44132.msg1295170#msg1295170 date=1299362029]
All he said was he might move on. Would you rather he pledge eternal allegiance then leave? While he's playing like he gives a shit I love him.
And Keepers make mistakes so I don't want any of this west ham shit. cech, van der sar, szezezzezzny, hart, jaaskalainen, gordon etc have all made mistakes this season.
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This ^^
I would much prefer he come out and say what he did then do what torres did and say i love this club i wont leave then he leaves. CUNT. Although in saying that, its abit shattering the thought of reina leaving, let alone him leaving for the scum
All he said was he might move on. Would you rather he pledge eternal allegiance then leave? While he's playing like he gives a shit I love him.
And Keepers make mistakes so I don't want any of this west ham shit. cech, van der sar, szezezzezzny, hart, jaaskalainen, gordon etc have all made mistakes this season.
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This ^^
I would much prefer he come out and say what he did then do what torres did and say i love this club i wont leave then he leaves. CUNT. Although in saying that, its abit shattering the thought of reina leaving, let alone him leaving for the scum
[quote author=SaintGeorge67 link=topic=44132.msg1295162#msg1295162 date=1299360817]
I might be overreacting, but I think every current player is an utter cunt until proven otherwise.
Footballers are tossers, and the game needs a massive kick up the arse, which won't happen.
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I go to agree, a few yrs never thought would look at top flight football and start to get cynical about it but these players are everything that is wrong with the game. You can understand when they lose touch with common man interms of earnings but most of the top flight players nowdays are losing touch with morals too, they just don't fcking get it.
Pepe, if you wanna go, fck off, definetly not irreplaceable and for 20 million I bet we could do a good job of replacing him.
I had it with these morons.
He's been erratic this season at times and I certainly will not be getting emotional over a player again like Torres, they are out of touch with reality and morals of a decent human being.
I just hope we get some through a youth academy that makes me believe in these disloyal penny pinching mercenaries.
The only thing that matters if LFC and it's values and as long as that doesn't change, I won't get fall out of love with club.
I might be overreacting, but I think every current player is an utter cunt until proven otherwise.
Footballers are tossers, and the game needs a massive kick up the arse, which won't happen.
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I go to agree, a few yrs never thought would look at top flight football and start to get cynical about it but these players are everything that is wrong with the game. You can understand when they lose touch with common man interms of earnings but most of the top flight players nowdays are losing touch with morals too, they just don't fcking get it.
Pepe, if you wanna go, fck off, definetly not irreplaceable and for 20 million I bet we could do a good job of replacing him.
I had it with these morons.
He's been erratic this season at times and I certainly will not be getting emotional over a player again like Torres, they are out of touch with reality and morals of a decent human being.
I just hope we get some through a youth academy that makes me believe in these disloyal penny pinching mercenaries.
The only thing that matters if LFC and it's values and as long as that doesn't change, I won't get fall out of love with club.
How the hell does Reina get amongst the players so quickly when a fight's breaking loose?
[quote author=juniormember link=topic=44132.msg1295510#msg1295510 date=1299421491]
How the hell does Reina get amongst the players so quickly when a fight's breaking loose?
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He was smarter this time round, pushing our own players away. He's learned from the Robben episode. 😀
How the hell does Reina get amongst the players so quickly when a fight's breaking loose?
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He was smarter this time round, pushing our own players away. He's learned from the Robben episode. 😀
I care inasmuch as he's a darn good keeper who will strengthen any team he joins, and I don't want him doing that for ManUre or the Arse.
Beyond that, I agree. If he goes, he goes.
Beyond that, I agree. If he goes, he goes.
Pepe confirms he wanted to leave last summer but the owners turned down the bid, well Purslow did.
Reina: The Liverpool owners stopped me joining Arsenal for £20m
By Joe Bernstein
Last updated at 10:02 PM on 8th October 2011
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Hold it: Reina claims he was not sold because his presence was crucial to the sale of the club
Hold it: Reina claims he was not sold because his presence was crucial to the sale of the club
Liverpool goalkeeper Pepe Reina nearly quit Anfield three times as the club fell apart under the ownership of Tom Hicks and George Gillett.
The Spaniard has shed new light on the turmoil at Liverpool and claims the club stopped him from joining Arsenal in 2010 because they feared it would send out the wrong signal to potential buyers as the Hicks and Gillett era collapsed under a sea of debt.
Reina, who wanted permission to speak to Arsene Wenger as Arsenal tabled a £20million bid, claims there were splits in the Liverpool dressing room over the Americans and says he wanted local heroes Steven Gerrard and Jamie Carragher to do more to support fans' protests.
Reina also campaigned against the appointment of Roy Hodgson to replace Rafa Benitez.
After hitting his 'lowest ebb' under the new man, he considered leaving again in January - only to be talked out of it by his wife.
On an earlier occasion, Benitez had talked Reina out of joining Valencia.
The goalkeeper's head was turned by Arsenal when he returned from Spain's World Cup victory celebrations last year to find Liverpool in crisis with Benitez sacked, Hicks and Gillett clinging on to power and the running of the club left to managing director Christian Purslow, who was trying to find new owners.
'I went from elation one minute to depression the next as the realisation dawned that Liverpool were going nowhere fast,' says Reina in his new autobiography.
Show me the money: Reina lost out financially
Show me the money: Reina lost out financially
'When I signed my contract in April 2010 I hoped that better times were just around the corner, a feeling that was fuelled by the promises of improvement from people at the club.
'It didn't take me long to feel that their promises were hollow. I felt betrayed. Our owners were at war with each other, the club's debts were spiralling out of control and a change in manager had failed to dispel the feeling that we were on the road to nowhere.
'Arsenal had made their determination to sign me clear by offering £20m, a phenomenal amount for a goalkeeper. Part of me felt that I was well within my rights to consider my future even if I did so with a heavy heart.
Pepe Reina: My Autobiography, £18.99, Trinity Mirror Sport Media
Pepe Reina: My Autobiography, £18.99, Trinity Mirror Sport Media
'When Liverpool received the bid, they rejected it. This was not because I had been told that I was too good a keeper to leave. The reason I was given was quite different - and it left me feeling down. I was told that my continued presence was crucial to the sale of the club. I was simply a bargaining chip in the sales process.
'I still don't know what to think of Purslow because I understand he was there to look for new owners and to try to sell the club but ultimately he was making big football decisions that he was not qualified to make.'
Reina publicly called for Hicks and Gillett to go long before current owner John W Henry took over last October.
The 29-year-old also admits he would have liked Gerrard and Carragher to have taken a similar stand.
'I was probably one of the loudest objectors because I believed it was important the supporters knew I was with them,' he says.
'All I wanted the owners to do was sell up to people who could take the club forward, so I said so.
'The way I saw it, Stevie and Carra are the two principle members of our squad, the ones who the people love and if they had said something maybe it would have put Hicks and Gillett under real pressure.
'But in their view, it was more important to try to keep things as normal as possible.'
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2046871/Pepe-Reina-Liverpool-owners-stopped-joining-Arsenal-20m.html#ixzz1aEI3mg50
Reina: The Liverpool owners stopped me joining Arsenal for £20m
By Joe Bernstein
Last updated at 10:02 PM on 8th October 2011
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Hold it: Reina claims he was not sold because his presence was crucial to the sale of the club
Hold it: Reina claims he was not sold because his presence was crucial to the sale of the club
Liverpool goalkeeper Pepe Reina nearly quit Anfield three times as the club fell apart under the ownership of Tom Hicks and George Gillett.
The Spaniard has shed new light on the turmoil at Liverpool and claims the club stopped him from joining Arsenal in 2010 because they feared it would send out the wrong signal to potential buyers as the Hicks and Gillett era collapsed under a sea of debt.
Reina, who wanted permission to speak to Arsene Wenger as Arsenal tabled a £20million bid, claims there were splits in the Liverpool dressing room over the Americans and says he wanted local heroes Steven Gerrard and Jamie Carragher to do more to support fans' protests.
Reina also campaigned against the appointment of Roy Hodgson to replace Rafa Benitez.
After hitting his 'lowest ebb' under the new man, he considered leaving again in January - only to be talked out of it by his wife.
On an earlier occasion, Benitez had talked Reina out of joining Valencia.
The goalkeeper's head was turned by Arsenal when he returned from Spain's World Cup victory celebrations last year to find Liverpool in crisis with Benitez sacked, Hicks and Gillett clinging on to power and the running of the club left to managing director Christian Purslow, who was trying to find new owners.
'I went from elation one minute to depression the next as the realisation dawned that Liverpool were going nowhere fast,' says Reina in his new autobiography.
Show me the money: Reina lost out financially
Show me the money: Reina lost out financially
'When I signed my contract in April 2010 I hoped that better times were just around the corner, a feeling that was fuelled by the promises of improvement from people at the club.
'It didn't take me long to feel that their promises were hollow. I felt betrayed. Our owners were at war with each other, the club's debts were spiralling out of control and a change in manager had failed to dispel the feeling that we were on the road to nowhere.
'Arsenal had made their determination to sign me clear by offering £20m, a phenomenal amount for a goalkeeper. Part of me felt that I was well within my rights to consider my future even if I did so with a heavy heart.
Pepe Reina: My Autobiography, £18.99, Trinity Mirror Sport Media
Pepe Reina: My Autobiography, £18.99, Trinity Mirror Sport Media
'When Liverpool received the bid, they rejected it. This was not because I had been told that I was too good a keeper to leave. The reason I was given was quite different - and it left me feeling down. I was told that my continued presence was crucial to the sale of the club. I was simply a bargaining chip in the sales process.
'I still don't know what to think of Purslow because I understand he was there to look for new owners and to try to sell the club but ultimately he was making big football decisions that he was not qualified to make.'
Reina publicly called for Hicks and Gillett to go long before current owner John W Henry took over last October.
The 29-year-old also admits he would have liked Gerrard and Carragher to have taken a similar stand.
'I was probably one of the loudest objectors because I believed it was important the supporters knew I was with them,' he says.
'All I wanted the owners to do was sell up to people who could take the club forward, so I said so.
'The way I saw it, Stevie and Carra are the two principle members of our squad, the ones who the people love and if they had said something maybe it would have put Hicks and Gillett under real pressure.
'But in their view, it was more important to try to keep things as normal as possible.'
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2046871/Pepe-Reina-Liverpool-owners-stopped-joining-Arsenal-20m.html#ixzz1aEI3mg50
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