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Pep, imploding or tactical ploy to get more money?

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moron said:
Good call that, he would get all the money he needs, and would just turn up for the CL games....
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You can throw a lot at Pep but only turning up for the CL is not one.

He’s absolutely dominated domestic trophies everywhere he’s managed and to a higher standard or anyone that came before him.
 
moron said:
Good call that, he would get all the money he needs, and would just turn up for the CL games....
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You can throw a lot at Pep but only turning up for the CL is not one.

He’s absolutely dominated domestic trophies everywhere he’s managed and to a higher standard or anyone that came before him.
 
Dreambeliever said:
You can throw a lot at Pep but only turning up for the CL is not one.

He’s absolutely dominated domestic trophies everywhere he’s managed and to a higher standard or anyone that came before him.
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Is it any surprise they dominate domestic Cups when they get to play teams like Port Vale?
 
Pep has only won the European cup when he had Messi playing for him.
 
Dreambeliever said:
You can throw a lot at Pep but only turning up for the CL is not one.

He’s absolutely dominated domestic trophies everywhere he’s managed and to a higher standard or anyone that came before him.
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You dont understand, the French league is so shit I think if now PSG played without a manager they would win it. So am saying that Pep would just need to turn up for the CL games, he may not get to the final, but at least he is likely to get them to the semi finals.
 
If we get drawn against City, maybe we could cut a deal with them to field only 3 senior players and the rest kids. That would probably show who is the better coach between Pep and Klopp, and put a stop to wank-fest about Pep being the best in the world.
 
lfc.eddie said:
If we get drawn against City, maybe we could cut a deal with them to field only 3 senior players and the rest kids. That would probably show who is the better coach between Pep and Klopp, and put a stop to wank-fest about Pep being the best in the world.
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Forget deals, i say just ensure VVD, and Gomez are at the back, put in one senior in midfield like Lallana, and Origi up front, with the rest of them Kids plus Adrian on goal, that will do.
 
King Binny said:

[article]There is a problem with excellence. Over two seasons, Manchester City raised the bar to historic levels. If they are falling short now, it is in comparison with their immediate predecessors and with a side spurred on to greater heights by competition.

The defending champions are, Pep Guardiola thinks, victims of their own success. In a perverse way, they are architects of their own probable downfall.

“When we arrived here the standard was 85 points to win [the Premier League],” Guardiola said. He was almost exactly right: the champions in the previous six seasons took an average of 85.33. “Now you have to reach almost 100 points.”

City got exactly 100 in 2018, 98 the following year. But Liverpool claimed 97, the joint third-best tally ever, even adjusting earlier totals to award a third point per victory, last season. They are setting a record-breaking pace now.

“We helped Liverpool to make this step, with incredible top players and now it is the level you have to reach,” Guardiola reflected and, perhaps, regretted.

“To stay at that level for three, four or five years is so difficult. I didn’t want to think it too much in the beginning of the season but I thought we will be able to do it again.”

Instead, City head to Arsenal having already dropped as many points, 16, as they did in the whole of last season. And yet their current average of two points per game would have put them in title contention at this stage of most previous seasons.

“All the teams that are behind Liverpool, we know we have to make 100 points,” he said. "Before it didn’t happen and we were the reason why.

“They have maintained last season's standards for this season. This is their second season at this level. It helps they didn't win [the league] since a long time ago. You smell it. I felt it in the first season when we took 78 points. There were just two or three players in the locker room who had won the Premier League. The rest hadn't won it. We wanted to feel this experience and lift the trophy.”

But, as Guardiola explained, City’s current mixed form is the norm for the majority, even among the most distinguished.

“We are struggling a little bit,” he said. “In the last years we were incredibly consistent home and away but this season we have dropped points. Sometimes in a process, in NBA teams, with incredible tennis players, there are problems or periods in the season when you struggle a little bit.

“I would say that is [more] normal than the people can expect. The situation we are in is going to help us in the future.”

Their immediate future entails a trip to Arsenal, with John Stones added to the injury list and David Silva facing a late fitness test. He faces a side without a manager, with Freddie Ljungberg in interim charge after Unai Emery was sacked. Emery’s English was mocked but Guardiola does not believe that was the root of his failure.

“The lack of communication with Unai is because he didn’t win,” he said. “Today there are a lot of weapons to communicate to the players, not just through the words. There are the hands, the body, the emotions, the images, your assistants: many things. It happened because he didn’t win games. [If he wins], people say it is perfect how he communicates.”[/article]
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Oh fuck off, everything's about him in his world, he's so up his own arse.
 
Treboeth said:
The Premier League is also a European Trophy (until we leave)
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Ignoring the fact that the Premier League is a competition only open to qualifying teams from England and Wales, you do realise Brexit doesn't involve attaching engines to the UK and physically breaking away from the European continent?

Right I'm off to Gregg's for some fine European patisserie.
 
Esoteric said:
Ignoring the fact that the Premier League is a competition only open to qualifying teams from England and Wales, you do realise Brexit doesn't involve attaching engines to the UK and physically breaking away from the European continent?

Right I'm off to Gregg's for some fine European patisserie.
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It was a joke,pisstaking people who think we will no longer be allowed any part in Europe in the future.
Off out to do a Euromillions ticket while I still can 😉
 
LeTallecWiz said:
Interesting Footy365 analysis on Pep's 'new formation tweaks' due to Klopp:

https://www.football365.com/news/how-pep-guardiola-has-used-liverpool-gap-to-innovate-again

@rurikbird will enjoy I think.
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Pretty good read, thanks. I'm not sure it's the gap in points to us that's to blame for all the crazy 3-2-2-3 formations – this is just typical Pep; after a few years of working with the same team he seemingly gets bored with the same old and starts reinventing the wheel. Midfielders as CBs, fullbacks as CBs, fullbacks as midfielders, "strikerless systems" etc. He's like a rock band that hits big time and then instead of doing more of the same follows up with an "experimental" album, to the horror of their recording label. He's talented enough (and gets to work with good enough players) that even his "experimental" stuff is pretty good, but you wonder how unstoppable he would be if he had jut a bit more of a practical streak.
 
moron said:
You dont understand, the French league is so shit I think if now PSG played without a manager they would win it. So am saying that Pep would just need to turn up for the CL games, he may not get to the final, but at least he is likely to get them to the semi finals.
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Fair enough. I think Italy is more likely
 
Speaking of strikerless systems, Man City are literally playing without a striker right now (vs United in the Carabao Cup). Not even a "false 9," just no striker at all. We've officially entered the "late period Pep" territory.
 
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Bernardo scores – a great hit, but De Gea was late with the jump, another GK might have gotten his fingertips to it. This is good – Pep will now think his 4-6-0 system will revolutionize football. I hope if they score a couple of more here, he might sell Aguero.
 
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rurikbird said:
Speaking of strikerless systems, Man City are literally playing without a striker right now (vs United in the Carabao Cup). Not even a "false 9," just no striker at all. We're entering the "later period Pep" territory.
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They saw Phil Jones on the teamsheet, so decided if they could just get wingers putting crosses into the box, he was bound to knock in a couple
 
tombrown said:
They saw Phil Jones on the teamsheet, so decided if they could just get wingers putting crosses into the box, he was bound to knock in a couple
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You're not too far off, it's Pereira with the OG – 0:3 City after 38 minutes. That's it, Pep – you found the formula, you bald-headed genius, football will never be the same! *whispering in Pep's ear* you don't need Aguero and Sane now, or those pesky specialist CBs who get in the way of your midfield utopia. Sell them, sell them all now!
 
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