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Paris Saint-Germain v Liverpool Match Thread CHAMPIONS LEAGUE

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You're welcome, dick head. It's small time compared to what? It's perfectly intelligent to seek to maximise that aspect. But whine on as you struggle upstairs with your glass of milk and your teddy bear. Night night.
Oh your so upset that you not only edited your post for some reason rather than just putting another post up but then are reduced to really childish baiting. Your initial reply to my complaint about long throws was you being a Smartarse so say what you like.
 
We got what we deserved.

Everyone has figured out how to stop us at this point. There is no threat in the middle of the park, nobody capable of carrying the ball into the middle of the final third of the field and drawing defenders onto him. So Salah and Mane get defended heavily and teams make sure we can't get the ball out of defence quickly to make the most of them.

We needed Ox or even Shaq going through the middle - I thought Keita was going to be that player for us but I really have no idea what is going on with him.

Yep - been going on for a while this, Keita is not what we expected - but he needs a run in the team; it is a miracle that we are doing so well in the league just using mostly work-horses. I think the problem of having Milner-Hendo-Gini combination in midfield is the most static we have. We need someone - if not creative then at least strong enough to just go forward like that guy from Lyon the other night - just drive down the middle !!!!
 
Klopp has to admit he got this with wrong. What was the plan? To put Lovren in the shop window? He's fucking shite.

As for the midfield. If we still had Coutinho he'd play. He was replaced with Ox. Now we're content to have no creative midfielder.

Think we would have won that game if we'd have started with TAA for Lovren and Shaq for Henderson.
 
If Klopp regretted anything from this campaign, I doubt it would be this game. We could easily have it in the bag already.

Klopp has always had more patience than others, whether its buying players, or bedding them in, but I wish it weren't close to being required in this case. We haven't really seen our new midfield look with any consistency at all, and that's where all the problems are.
 
It's small time because it's the sort of play the percentages tactic that inferior team use against us. That's why I mentioned Stoke as it was used by them under Pulis but how many quality teams adopted it as a regular option? It's the sort of thing you see in the lower leagues and Sunday football. PSG weren't fazed by it one bit.
On the contrary - they loaded their box every time we tried it. As opposed to a normal throw in where they wouldn't. Most teams don't do it because they don't have someone capable of throwing it prodigious distances. It's a valid and potentially dangerous tactic.
 
The issue was clearly our midfield. Loyalty to Henderson was ripe. Fabinho knows the league and PSG. He should have started. Ditto Keita - we carried the ball so much better than in the second half because he always looks to go forward and draws fouls with his close control. I've been disappointed in him defensively so far but not in his ball carrying.
 
On the contrary - they loaded their box every time we tried it. As opposed to a normal throw in where they wouldn't. Most teams don't do it because they don't have someone capable of throwing it prodigious distances. It's a valid and potentially dangerous tactic.
Anything is a potentially dangerous tactic but the long throw for us hasn't resulted in much has it? It certainly didn't help one little bit last night and them loading their own box countered it completely so I don't don't see how that benefited us.
 
Keita looked fit and in much better football shape then earlier this season.
I expect him to soon be a regular in the starting eleven.
Fabinho must also get his chance.

I wont blame anything on one player but its quite clear in games like this that the extra bit of skill, winners menatlity and desire to be the best arent in Hendo or Lovrens DNA.

Give big Virg the captains armband after the season. He’s a captain with a big C.
 
Italian teams are shite, so we can easily fucking tonk them.
But we HAVE to start playing better.

My suggestion would be 4-3-3

Alisson
Robertson
VVD
Gomez
Trent

Milner
Wijnaldum
Shaqiri

Salah
Firmino
Mane

Because THATS OUR BEST TEAM AND FUCKING FORMATION!
 
We will get through..

Though the last 16 looks a scary prospect .

R Madrid, A Madrid, Munich, Juve, Barca and Porto

Porto plz..
 
I thought we were pretty good in patches, especially the 2nd half. Problem was the first half when we really couldn't get going, and lost out heads to the play acting. I'm still not overly impressed by Neymar or Mbappe, Mbappe is the better player, and I know he's still young, but I just don't see that he'll be up there in the Messi and Ronaldo bracket. Neymar is just gash, loads of flicks and tricks, but nowhere near enough end product or dedication at the top level, and that play acting from him is the worst I've ever seen on any player, utterly embarrassing.
Oh and Lovren and Henderson are fucking plodders.
 
Italian teams are shite, so we can easily fucking tonk them.
But we HAVE to start playing better.

My suggestion would be 4-3-3

Alisson
Robertson
VVD
Gomez
Trent

Milner
Wijnaldum
Shaqiri

Salah
Firmino
Mane

Because THATS OUR BEST TEAM AND FUCKING FORMATION!

Our results have been better with 4-2-3-1 this season though. I think that is probably the way to go.


Alisson

TAA
Gomez
VVD
Roberstson

Gini
Fabinho

Mane
Firmino
Shaqiri

Salah
 
I thought we were pretty good in patches, especially the 2nd half. Problem was the first half when we really couldn't get going, and lost out heads to the play acting. I'm still not overly impressed by Neymar or Mbappe, Mbappe is the better player, and I know he's still young, but I just don't see that he'll be up there in the Messi and Ronaldo bracket. Neymar is just gash, loads of flicks and tricks, but nowhere near enough end product or dedication at the top level, and that play acting from him is the worst I've ever seen on any player, utterly embarrassing.
Oh and Lovren and Henderson are fucking plodders.

I dont recall any point in the second half where we looked like scoring. Dont even remember aby decent chances. We werent getting battered like the 1st half but there was no reason for them to press on at that point, they just sat deep defended well and hit with pace on the counter. We only had 1 shot on target for the whole game.
 
I dont recall any point in the second half where we looked like scoring. Dont even remember aby decent chances. We werent getting battered like the 1st half but there was no reason for them to press on at that point, they just sat deep defended well and hit with pace on the counter. We only had 1 shot on target for the whole game.

1st half we were pinned back in our half, second half I thought we played much more in theirs and were getting balls in the box.
 
We were shit.
Poor team selection.
Not enough urgency.
A static midfield
A misfiring (again) front three.

But they are they are the worst bunch of whinging play acting shithouses we've come across in a long time. Fucking hate everything about them.
Not like us to have to win against the group's best team by two clear goals in the final game to go though. Not like us at all.
 
Do I have to? Do the RAAAAAAAATTTIIIIINGS? Really? OK.

What a load of shit. Yeah, we got beat by the better team, and they fully deserved the win, but we really made it easy for them, especially in the disgracefully supine first 45 minutes. The irritation at getting beaten yet again away from home was amplified by our own dismal, lethargic incompetence and the fact that PSG are a bunch of horrible, cheating, preening hateful cunts, with a histrionic Herr Flick twat of a manager.

And the ref had a dreadful shocker of a game, too, allowing PSG's overpaid mercenary brigade of cunts to cheat, foul, roll about and fake injury for the entire game.

But all that aside, we got what we deserved. Fuck all. And what to do? Klopp didn't pick the team anyone wanted, but more worrying is the overall malaise, the lack of aggression (Milner aside), and the slow, nervous movement and again, an almost total lack of genuine goal threat.

Alisson (7) Poor fucker hasn't had this type of barrage since......well, since he played us last season. Made several important saves and deserved better from the defence. One silly pass - as usual - but overall he looked every inch a world class goalkeeper.

Gomez (4) Looked weirdly sluggish and was turned inside out as PSG attacked almost at will. Couldn't deal with the pace and movement of M'Bappe, Di Maria and Neymar. Play him at CB, Klopp. ALWAYS.

Lovren (4) He was almost never where he should have been, rushing around like a demented fireman with a leaky bucket trying to put out fires. Made a few important clearances, but was never in control of any situation.

Van Dijk (4) Often left isolated by The Wandering Fuckwit, but he was also well below average, especially by his own usually imperious standards. Careless defending for the goal, and then just sloppy in possession.

Robertson (6) Had few chances to attack in the first half onslaught, but made a few energetic forays forward after the break, and was one of our few attacking threats, even if he wasted a few good opportunities.

Henderson (3) Fucking useless. He looked like he was wearing wellies for most of the game, as the quicksilver PSG players waltzed around him at will, and he seemed to be playing the game a second behind everyone else. His passing was conservative at best, but mainly just fucking shit. Slow, laboured, sloppy and helpless.

Wijnaldum (4) The Wijnaldum Shithouse Ghost Train once again rolled into an away game in Europe, following his very popular (for the opposition) showing against Red Star. Caught in possession, gave the ball away, did fuck all. He should never play with Henderson. Two of these water-carrying bellends in the same team is asking for fucking trouble against top teams with good, quick, technically skilful players. Who fucking knew?!

Milner (7) Once again, one of the few outfield players to actually perform at a decent level, and gets an extra point for the nerveless penalty. He was also laboured at times, but at least he got fucking stuck in and actually tried to pass forwards. But let's be honest, we all knew that we'd win fuck all with a midfield trio of Milner, Henderson and Wijnaldum - as did Klopp - but the fact that he spent £100m on new midfielders and then fielded all three in a game like this, is nothing short of a fucking disgrace.

Mane (6) The only real threat from our attacking players, he was dangerous with his running and movement as the game opened up a bit in the second half. His pace and skill worried the PSG defence, who needed to be alert when he was in possession, and had help from Marquinhos to ensure he didn't cause too much trouble.

Salah (5) Mediocre, and that's generous. Run into trouble, coughed up possession and seemed amazed when PSG worked out his "move ball onto left foot. Shoot" tactic, and blocked every attempt. Fuck, 5 is generous. Score him what you like, I don't care.

Firmino (4) Back in his more preferred position, but didn't do anything at all really. Didn't even give Veratti a hard time, which was so obviously needed, and showed his usual lack of goal threat, by not having any goal threat. Good job we spent money on a new strike...oh. It's genuinely incredible how much game -time he has had for so little end product this season. At least there's lots of chat that we will be looking at spending big on a new striker in summer, albeit too late.

Subs:

Shaqiri (5) OK, I suppose, didn't make that much of a difference
Sturridge (5) Booked. Er, that's about it.
Keita (5) Our £60m midfield man was MADE for games like this! Came on, did fuck all. Yay.
 
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