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Jonjo Shelvey has likened playing in front of the Anfield crowd to 'taking a load of Pro Plus'.
The 19-year-old spoke in awed terms about how he feels when the Kop sings You'll Never Walk Alone during an interview with FourFourTwo.
"The atmosphere is unreal. I mean European nights are something special," said Shelvey.
"When they're singing You'll Never Walk Alone it makes the hair stand up on the back of your neck - not that I've got much hair. It's just something I can't describe.
"You feel like you've taken a load of Pro Plus, it's a joke. It is something you dream about as a little kid in the playground with your mates. To actually do it is just a dream come true."
Shelvey has made 14 appearances this season after signing from Charlton last summer.
And he has high hopes for next term.
"Parts of my game have improved since I left Charlton, that was obviously going to happen and I've bulked up from being in the gym," he said. "When I come back for pre-season I want to cement a first-team place.
"I want to be seen as an important first-team player. I think I can do that, the club thinks I can do that otherwise they wouldn't have bought me. If given the chances, I will."
The 19-year-old spoke in awed terms about how he feels when the Kop sings You'll Never Walk Alone during an interview with FourFourTwo.
"The atmosphere is unreal. I mean European nights are something special," said Shelvey.
"When they're singing You'll Never Walk Alone it makes the hair stand up on the back of your neck - not that I've got much hair. It's just something I can't describe.
"You feel like you've taken a load of Pro Plus, it's a joke. It is something you dream about as a little kid in the playground with your mates. To actually do it is just a dream come true."
Shelvey has made 14 appearances this season after signing from Charlton last summer.
And he has high hopes for next term.
"Parts of my game have improved since I left Charlton, that was obviously going to happen and I've bulked up from being in the gym," he said. "When I come back for pre-season I want to cement a first-team place.
"I want to be seen as an important first-team player. I think I can do that, the club thinks I can do that otherwise they wouldn't have bought me. If given the chances, I will."
[quote author=Ryan link=topic=45225.msg1335682#msg1335682 date=1305776284]
During the Fulham game, David Pleat made the comment that he didn't think Shelvey had the required turn of pace to become a top top class footballer.
Twas an interesting observation I thought.
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And in that very game he actually used his pace to break free and send a through ball for the Suarez goal.
I think theres more pace there than people realize, at least enough.
During the Fulham game, David Pleat made the comment that he didn't think Shelvey had the required turn of pace to become a top top class footballer.
Twas an interesting observation I thought.
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And in that very game he actually used his pace to break free and send a through ball for the Suarez goal.
I think theres more pace there than people realize, at least enough.
Pace helps, of course, but there's a simple two-word answer for anyone who reckons it's indispensable for all top-class footballers:
Sami Hyypia.
Sami Hyypia.
[quote author=Hardcastle link=topic=45225.msg1336110#msg1336110 date=1305837287]
It's a little bit mad to think he's featured in 14 matches this season.
He's not that good,yet.. It's just an indication of just how gash our first team/squad is.
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And that Kenny fucking LOVES him.
It's a little bit mad to think he's featured in 14 matches this season.
He's not that good,yet.. It's just an indication of just how gash our first team/squad is.
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And that Kenny fucking LOVES him.
I like David Pleat.
I like Jonjo Shelvey too.
I like Jonjo Shelvey too.
[quote author=FoxForceFive link=topic=45225.msg1336112#msg1336112 date=1305837401]
[quote author=Hardcastle link=topic=45225.msg1336110#msg1336110 date=1305837287]
It's a little bit mad to think he's featured in 14 matches this season.
He's not that good,yet.. It's just an indication of just how gash our first team/squad is.
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And that Kenny fucking LOVES him.
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Well yeah and that.
Although given the alternatives to Jonjo, Kenny's love hand is probably forced.
All that said, I like Jonjo and do think he'll go on to be a decent player.
[quote author=Hardcastle link=topic=45225.msg1336110#msg1336110 date=1305837287]
It's a little bit mad to think he's featured in 14 matches this season.
He's not that good,yet.. It's just an indication of just how gash our first team/squad is.
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And that Kenny fucking LOVES him.
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Well yeah and that.
Although given the alternatives to Jonjo, Kenny's love hand is probably forced.
All that said, I like Jonjo and do think he'll go on to be a decent player.
I think he is highly talented, but he has to be central, due to his lack of pace. He needs to be either in centre midfield, which I think is his best position or behind a striker.
He can tackle, works hard, is big for his age, can head, pass, shoot and has bags of confidence it seems.
He's four years younger than Spearing, which just shows how young he is really.
He can tackle, works hard, is big for his age, can head, pass, shoot and has bags of confidence it seems.
He's four years younger than Spearing, which just shows how young he is really.
[quote author=LFD link=topic=45225.msg1336155#msg1336155 date=1305841347]
I think he is highly talented, but he has to be central, due to his lack of pace. He needs to be either in centre midfield, which I think is his best position or behind a striker.
He can tackle, works hard, is big for his age, can head, pass, shoot and has bags of confidence it seems.
He's four years younger than Spearing, which just shows how young he is really.
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yeah i deffo see him as a central player, i remember watchin some youtube vids of him when he first came to us and the vision and skill he used in some of those passes looked beastie, they are youtube vids though, they can make anyone look good
I think he is highly talented, but he has to be central, due to his lack of pace. He needs to be either in centre midfield, which I think is his best position or behind a striker.
He can tackle, works hard, is big for his age, can head, pass, shoot and has bags of confidence it seems.
He's four years younger than Spearing, which just shows how young he is really.
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yeah i deffo see him as a central player, i remember watchin some youtube vids of him when he first came to us and the vision and skill he used in some of those passes looked beastie, they are youtube vids though, they can make anyone look good
Xabi and Didi never had a turn of pace. Shelvey's quicker than either of them, I'd say.
I am quicker than Didi, I don't swallow this bit that he has no pace, I think he is deceptive, he is tall and has a long gait, I think he covers ground quickly.
regards
regards
[quote author=Rosco link=topic=45225.msg1336507#msg1336507 date=1305916641]
I'm starting to think he's going to be a very good player for us. He's already got better ball skills than both Lucas and Spearing.
He has more than enough pace to play in the centre of the park based on last Sunday's evidence too.
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Seems to have a fair bit of skill too. I hate this pace issue, it's a load of bollocks, is he a winger? No, so who gives a fuck?
I'm starting to think he's going to be a very good player for us. He's already got better ball skills than both Lucas and Spearing.
He has more than enough pace to play in the centre of the park based on last Sunday's evidence too.
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Seems to have a fair bit of skill too. I hate this pace issue, it's a load of bollocks, is he a winger? No, so who gives a fuck?
Yeah, it's more important that he's got the ability to make himself that yard of space and play the pass, which he seemed to do well enough for Suarez' goal last week, even though he still got laughably slated by a few people on here for not releasing it earlier. It looked perfect in timing and execution to me.
[quote author=Ryan link=topic=45225.msg1335682#msg1335682 date=1305776284]
During the Fulham game, David Pleat made the comment that he didn't think Shelvey had the required turn of pace to become a top top class footballer.
Twas an interesting observation I thought.
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Perhaps, but he's not alone on that score, is he?
We picked him up for low fee and if we can cultivate an international CM out of him then I think that is good going.
Put it this way, I think he could have a similar career to Barry or Carrick if he stays out of the pub and clear of injuries.
During the Fulham game, David Pleat made the comment that he didn't think Shelvey had the required turn of pace to become a top top class footballer.
Twas an interesting observation I thought.
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Perhaps, but he's not alone on that score, is he?
We picked him up for low fee and if we can cultivate an international CM out of him then I think that is good going.
Put it this way, I think he could have a similar career to Barry or Carrick if he stays out of the pub and clear of injuries.
[quote author=Rosco link=topic=45225.msg1336507#msg1336507 date=1305916641]
I'm starting to think he's going to be a very good player for us. He's already got better ball skills than both Lucas and Spearing.
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You need a bit more than "ball skills" though mate. Smicer had "ball skills" but could never cement himself in the team. Both of those two you mentioned play a role, right now I couldn't even tell you what Shelvey's best position is.
I presume long-term it'll be centre mid, but right now he's not strong, imposing, or good enough to do that role.
I'm starting to think he's going to be a very good player for us. He's already got better ball skills than both Lucas and Spearing.
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You need a bit more than "ball skills" though mate. Smicer had "ball skills" but could never cement himself in the team. Both of those two you mentioned play a role, right now I couldn't even tell you what Shelvey's best position is.
I presume long-term it'll be centre mid, but right now he's not strong, imposing, or good enough to do that role.
I wish the club would arrange a 100m dash for all the players twice a season, and publish the results, so we really knew who was slow and who was not, it would save a whole load of pointless discussion.
I can tell you one thing for nothing fucking Shelvey would burn the arse of Lucas
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I can tell you one thing for nothing fucking Shelvey would burn the arse of Lucas
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[quote author=Ryan link=topic=45225.msg1336589#msg1336589 date=1305932367]
[quote author=Rosco link=topic=45225.msg1336507#msg1336507 date=1305916641]
I'm starting to think he's going to be a very good player for us. He's already got better ball skills than both Lucas and Spearing.
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You need a bit more than "ball skills" though mate. Smicer had "ball skills" but could never cement himself in the team. Both of those two you mentioned play a role, right now I couldn't even tell you what Shelvey's best position is.
I presume long-term it'll be centre mid, but right now he's not strong, imposing, or good enough to do that role.
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He's a much better passer than the two as well. Neither Lucas or Spearing are particularly strong or imposing and they lack Shelvey's ability.
I'd have him ahead of the two of them next year.
[quote author=Rosco link=topic=45225.msg1336507#msg1336507 date=1305916641]
I'm starting to think he's going to be a very good player for us. He's already got better ball skills than both Lucas and Spearing.
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You need a bit more than "ball skills" though mate. Smicer had "ball skills" but could never cement himself in the team. Both of those two you mentioned play a role, right now I couldn't even tell you what Shelvey's best position is.
I presume long-term it'll be centre mid, but right now he's not strong, imposing, or good enough to do that role.
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He's a much better passer than the two as well. Neither Lucas or Spearing are particularly strong or imposing and they lack Shelvey's ability.
I'd have him ahead of the two of them next year.
Well one thing is for sure he looks a better prospect than Lucas did when he first started out, and look how some people are creaming their jeans over him now
regards
regards
[quote author=Ryan link=topic=45225.msg1336589#msg1336589 date=1305932367]
[quote author=Rosco link=topic=45225.msg1336507#msg1336507 date=1305916641]
I'm starting to think he's going to be a very good player for us. He's already got better ball skills than both Lucas and Spearing.
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You need a bit more than "ball skills" though mate. Smicer had "ball skills" but could never cement himself in the team. Both of those two you mentioned play a role, right now I couldn't even tell you what Shelvey's best position is.
I presume long-term it'll be centre mid, but right now he's not strong, imposing, or good enough to do that role.
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That's ridiculous.
He's built like a young Gerrard. There's a reason why he's been playing first team football since the age of 17. He looks like a man amongst boys when he plays for the under 19s. He's bigger, stronger and more imposing than any of Lucas, Spearing and Poulsen.
And how on earth can you say he's not good enough to play center-mid from the 15-20 mins appearances he's had all season? Jack Wilshere has beomce a first team CM regular in a couple of seasons. Absolutely no reason why Shelvey can't do the same. Barring a career threatening injury, I can guarantee that he'll be a better player than Lucas or Spearing.
[quote author=Rosco link=topic=45225.msg1336507#msg1336507 date=1305916641]
I'm starting to think he's going to be a very good player for us. He's already got better ball skills than both Lucas and Spearing.
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You need a bit more than "ball skills" though mate. Smicer had "ball skills" but could never cement himself in the team. Both of those two you mentioned play a role, right now I couldn't even tell you what Shelvey's best position is.
I presume long-term it'll be centre mid, but right now he's not strong, imposing, or good enough to do that role.
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That's ridiculous.
He's built like a young Gerrard. There's a reason why he's been playing first team football since the age of 17. He looks like a man amongst boys when he plays for the under 19s. He's bigger, stronger and more imposing than any of Lucas, Spearing and Poulsen.
And how on earth can you say he's not good enough to play center-mid from the 15-20 mins appearances he's had all season? Jack Wilshere has beomce a first team CM regular in a couple of seasons. Absolutely no reason why Shelvey can't do the same. Barring a career threatening injury, I can guarantee that he'll be a better player than Lucas or Spearing.
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