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[quote author=Herr Onceared link=topic=21236.msg509500#msg509500 date=1204829965]
I pick Eva Mendez.
She's beautiful.
Proper beautiful.
Theres a film called hitch with her in it, and in the goofy, improv'd end bit shes just dancing and messing about, and is even more incredible.
10/10
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yep, in Hitch, she looks stunning, towards the beginning, in the club her sitting down with them reading glasses on, looks so hot there.
i've seen that bit in the end aswell, where there all walking and messing around on the red carpet and again she looks stunning.
I pick Eva Mendez.
She's beautiful.
Proper beautiful.
Theres a film called hitch with her in it, and in the goofy, improv'd end bit shes just dancing and messing about, and is even more incredible.
10/10
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yep, in Hitch, she looks stunning, towards the beginning, in the club her sitting down with them reading glasses on, looks so hot there.
i've seen that bit in the end aswell, where there all walking and messing around on the red carpet and again she looks stunning.
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Mo Mia
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[quote author=Ali link=topic=21236.msg509490#msg509490 date=1204829411]
How can you take anyone in front of this?
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How could you not want the back of this?
How can you take anyone in front of this?
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How could you not want the back of this?
[quote author=Ali link=topic=21236.msg509490#msg509490 date=1204829411]
How can you take anyone in front of this?
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You know that's a bloke, right?
How can you take anyone in front of this?
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You know that's a bloke, right?
[quote author=Ali link=topic=21236.msg509477#msg509477 date=1204828993]
HC - you'd take longoria, i'd take mendez . mendez has that something about her, which i dont see in longoria,
anyways, as you were...
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I'm with HC on this. Eva Mendes has a lovely figure, but it's a shame about the boat race.
HC - you'd take longoria, i'd take mendez . mendez has that something about her, which i dont see in longoria,
anyways, as you were...
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I'm with HC on this. Eva Mendes has a lovely figure, but it's a shame about the boat race.
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Mr Moominpoops
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Oi kambrrshi! What a splendid thread!
Firstly, I'd like to disagree with Oncy. I can't find the original post but at one point he stated that there's a big difference between Ali's post and that of some other more high profile posters. I disagree. In fact, in his case (Ali) the curse of moronity has at least brought with it the gift of plain speaking. People who spout nonsense about the effect watching men kiss may have on children are subjecting us all to the most insidious and Daily Mailish crap of all. If you percieve men kissing as having a negative effect on children then what you're saying is that their behavious is very bad indeed - what else can you really mean if you think it damages our kids?
Secondly, everyone knows there's no basis for saying it 'turns kids gay'. You're gay or you're not (unless you're lucky enough to be bisexual). The only reason one could come to the conclusion that it does is if you yourself have felt strange yearnings, sparked by one man's affection for another. That's your own business, but just because you're (or have been) sexually confused doesn't mean that a young heterosexual man or a boy would be equally susceptible.
Thirdly, religion is something you choose to have. It's nothing at all like race or sexual orientation. Because it's a choice it's not unreasonable for people who have made the opposite choice to think your choice is really fucking stupid. If they thought you'd made a good choice, they'd make the same one. And here's a newsflash on religion - it's one of the main reasons why strangers still pick up weapons, even in the 21st freakin century, and kill each other.
Lastly, Anita isn't boring.
Firstly, I'd like to disagree with Oncy. I can't find the original post but at one point he stated that there's a big difference between Ali's post and that of some other more high profile posters. I disagree. In fact, in his case (Ali) the curse of moronity has at least brought with it the gift of plain speaking. People who spout nonsense about the effect watching men kiss may have on children are subjecting us all to the most insidious and Daily Mailish crap of all. If you percieve men kissing as having a negative effect on children then what you're saying is that their behavious is very bad indeed - what else can you really mean if you think it damages our kids?
Secondly, everyone knows there's no basis for saying it 'turns kids gay'. You're gay or you're not (unless you're lucky enough to be bisexual). The only reason one could come to the conclusion that it does is if you yourself have felt strange yearnings, sparked by one man's affection for another. That's your own business, but just because you're (or have been) sexually confused doesn't mean that a young heterosexual man or a boy would be equally susceptible.
Thirdly, religion is something you choose to have. It's nothing at all like race or sexual orientation. Because it's a choice it's not unreasonable for people who have made the opposite choice to think your choice is really fucking stupid. If they thought you'd made a good choice, they'd make the same one. And here's a newsflash on religion - it's one of the main reasons why strangers still pick up weapons, even in the 21st freakin century, and kill each other.
Lastly, Anita isn't boring.
[quote author=Mr Moominpoops link=topic=21236.msg509747#msg509747 date=1204853961]
Oi kambrrshi! What a splendid thread!
Firstly, I'd like to disagree with Oncy. I can't find the original post but at one point he stated that there's a big difference between Ali's post and that of some other more high profile posters. I disagree. In fact, in his case (Ali) the curse of moronity has at least brought with it the gift of plain speaking. People who spout nonsense about the effect watching men kiss may have on children are subjecting us all to the most insidious and Daily Mailish crap of all. If you percieve men kissing as having a negative effect on children then what you're saying is that their behavious is very bad indeed - what else can you really mean if you think it damages our kids?
Secondly, everyone knows there's no basis for saying it 'turns kids gay'. You're gay or you're not (unless you're lucky enough to be bisexual). The only reason one could come to the conclusion that it does is if you yourself have felt strange yearnings, sparked by one man's affection for another. That's your own business, but just because you're (or have been) sexually confused doesn't mean that a young heterosexual man or a boy would be equally susceptible.
Thirdly, religion is something you choose to have. It's nothing at all like race or sexual orientation. Because it's a choice it's not unreasonable for people who have made the opposite choice to think your choice is really fucking stupid. If they thought you'd made a good choice, they'd make the same one. And here's a newsflash on religion - it's one of the main reasons why strangers still pick up weapons, even in the 21st freakin century, and kill each other.
Lastly, Anita isn't boring.
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Some excellent points, Mr M, particularly the second one.
I've always thought homophobes must secretly be afraid that they're gay. Otherwise, what is there to be scared of?
Oi kambrrshi! What a splendid thread!
Firstly, I'd like to disagree with Oncy. I can't find the original post but at one point he stated that there's a big difference between Ali's post and that of some other more high profile posters. I disagree. In fact, in his case (Ali) the curse of moronity has at least brought with it the gift of plain speaking. People who spout nonsense about the effect watching men kiss may have on children are subjecting us all to the most insidious and Daily Mailish crap of all. If you percieve men kissing as having a negative effect on children then what you're saying is that their behavious is very bad indeed - what else can you really mean if you think it damages our kids?
Secondly, everyone knows there's no basis for saying it 'turns kids gay'. You're gay or you're not (unless you're lucky enough to be bisexual). The only reason one could come to the conclusion that it does is if you yourself have felt strange yearnings, sparked by one man's affection for another. That's your own business, but just because you're (or have been) sexually confused doesn't mean that a young heterosexual man or a boy would be equally susceptible.
Thirdly, religion is something you choose to have. It's nothing at all like race or sexual orientation. Because it's a choice it's not unreasonable for people who have made the opposite choice to think your choice is really fucking stupid. If they thought you'd made a good choice, they'd make the same one. And here's a newsflash on religion - it's one of the main reasons why strangers still pick up weapons, even in the 21st freakin century, and kill each other.
Lastly, Anita isn't boring.
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Some excellent points, Mr M, particularly the second one.
I've always thought homophobes must secretly be afraid that they're gay. Otherwise, what is there to be scared of?
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Grungefuttock
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[quote author=Mr Moominpoops link=topic=21236.msg509747#msg509747 date=1204853961]
Oi kambrrshi! What a splendid thread!
Firstly, I'd like to disagree with Oncy. I can't find the original post but at one point he stated that there's a big difference between Ali's post and that of some other more high profile posters. I disagree. In fact, in his case (Ali) the curse of moronity has at least brought with it the gift of plain speaking. People who spout nonsense about the effect watching men kiss may have on children are subjecting us all to the most insidious and Daily Mailish crap of all. If you percieve men kissing as having a negative effect on children then what you're saying is that their behavious is very bad indeed - what else can you really mean if you think it damages our kids?
Hold the front page! The majority of members of the major religions don't think homosexual behaviour is morally acceptable! Whether you agree with them or not, it's scarcely a surprise. Entitled as you are to your opposite opinion, you're no more so than a Christian or Muslim is to his.
Secondly, everyone knows there's no basis for saying it 'turns kids gay'. You're gay or you're not (unless you're lucky enough to be bisexual). The only reason one could come to the conclusion that it does is if you yourself have felt strange yearnings, sparked by one man's affection for another. That's your own business, but just because you're (or have been) sexually confused doesn't mean that a young heterosexual man or a boy would be equally susceptible.
People are obviously very one-dimensional on your planet. Whether or not it's usual, whatever it does or doesn't say about the person's fundamental sexual orientation, adopting a gay lifestyle absolutely can be a choice - cf.(again) David Bowie in his early adulthood, to take just the most high profile example I can think of.
Thirdly, religion is something you choose to have. It's nothing at all like race or sexual orientation. Because it's a choice it's not unreasonable for people who have made the opposite choice to think your choice is really fucking stupid. If they thought you'd made a good choice, they'd make the same one. And here's a newsflash on religion - it's one of the main reasons why strangers still pick up weapons, even in the 21st freakin century, and kill each other.
There have been times, for various reasons, when I've wished it was as simple as that. Holding to what one thinks is right is by no means always easy. The "choice" you dismiss so glibly is as much and as little a choice as falling in love - in many ways it chooses you, not the other way round. And here's the Stop Press - religion is far and away the main reason, even in the 21st freaking century, why strangers give their time, their money and their lives to help each other too.
Lastly, Anita isn't boring.
Absolutely not.
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Oi kambrrshi! What a splendid thread!
Firstly, I'd like to disagree with Oncy. I can't find the original post but at one point he stated that there's a big difference between Ali's post and that of some other more high profile posters. I disagree. In fact, in his case (Ali) the curse of moronity has at least brought with it the gift of plain speaking. People who spout nonsense about the effect watching men kiss may have on children are subjecting us all to the most insidious and Daily Mailish crap of all. If you percieve men kissing as having a negative effect on children then what you're saying is that their behavious is very bad indeed - what else can you really mean if you think it damages our kids?
Hold the front page! The majority of members of the major religions don't think homosexual behaviour is morally acceptable! Whether you agree with them or not, it's scarcely a surprise. Entitled as you are to your opposite opinion, you're no more so than a Christian or Muslim is to his.
Secondly, everyone knows there's no basis for saying it 'turns kids gay'. You're gay or you're not (unless you're lucky enough to be bisexual). The only reason one could come to the conclusion that it does is if you yourself have felt strange yearnings, sparked by one man's affection for another. That's your own business, but just because you're (or have been) sexually confused doesn't mean that a young heterosexual man or a boy would be equally susceptible.
People are obviously very one-dimensional on your planet. Whether or not it's usual, whatever it does or doesn't say about the person's fundamental sexual orientation, adopting a gay lifestyle absolutely can be a choice - cf.(again) David Bowie in his early adulthood, to take just the most high profile example I can think of.
Thirdly, religion is something you choose to have. It's nothing at all like race or sexual orientation. Because it's a choice it's not unreasonable for people who have made the opposite choice to think your choice is really fucking stupid. If they thought you'd made a good choice, they'd make the same one. And here's a newsflash on religion - it's one of the main reasons why strangers still pick up weapons, even in the 21st freakin century, and kill each other.
There have been times, for various reasons, when I've wished it was as simple as that. Holding to what one thinks is right is by no means always easy. The "choice" you dismiss so glibly is as much and as little a choice as falling in love - in many ways it chooses you, not the other way round. And here's the Stop Press - religion is far and away the main reason, even in the 21st freaking century, why strangers give their time, their money and their lives to help each other too.
Lastly, Anita isn't boring.
Absolutely not.
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[quote author=Anita link=topic=21236.msg509816#msg509816 date=1204885527]
You cold have said you agreed with the last point Grunge
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He did, you div.
You cold have said you agreed with the last point Grunge
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He did, you div.
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Grungefuttock
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Indeed, Bunnyman, with emphasis. 🙂
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Grungefuttock
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😛
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Mo Mia
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[quote author=Grungefuttock link=topic=21236.msg509814#msg509814 date=1204885404]
[quote author=Mr Moominpoops link=topic=21236.msg509747#msg509747 date=1204853961]
Oi kambrrshi! What a splendid thread!
Firstly, I'd like to disagree with Oncy. I can't find the original post but at one point he stated that there's a big difference between Ali's post and that of some other more high profile posters. I disagree. In fact, in his case (Ali) the curse of moronity has at least brought with it the gift of plain speaking. People who spout nonsense about the effect watching men kiss may have on children are subjecting us all to the most insidious and Daily Mailish crap of all. If you percieve men kissing as having a negative effect on children then what you're saying is that their behavious is very bad indeed - what else can you really mean if you think it damages our kids?
Hold the front page! The majority of members of the major religions don't think homosexual behaviour is morally acceptable! Whether you agree with them or not, it's scarcely a surprise. Entitled as you are to your opposite opinion, you're no more so than a Christian or Muslim is to his.
Secondly, everyone knows there's no basis for saying it 'turns kids gay'. You're gay or you're not (unless you're lucky enough to be bisexual). The only reason one could come to the conclusion that it does is if you yourself have felt strange yearnings, sparked by one man's affection for another. That's your own business, but just because you're (or have been) sexually confused doesn't mean that a young heterosexual man or a boy would be equally susceptible.
People are obviously very one-dimensional on your planet. Whether or not it's usual, whatever it does or doesn't say about the person's fundamental sexual orientation, adopting a gay lifestyle absolutely can be a choice - cf.(again) David Bowie in his early adulthood, to take just the most high profile example I can think of.
Thirdly, religion is something you choose to have. It's nothing at all like race or sexual orientation. Because it's a choice it's not unreasonable for people who have made the opposite choice to think your choice is really fucking stupid. If they thought you'd made a good choice, they'd make the same one. And here's a newsflash on religion - it's one of the main reasons why strangers still pick up weapons, even in the 21st freakin century, and kill each other.
There have been times, for various reasons, when I've wished it was as simple as that. Holding to what one thinks is right is by no means always easy. The "choice" you dismiss so glibly is as much and as little a choice as falling in love - in many ways it chooses you, not the other way round. And here's the Stop Press - religion is far and away the main reason, even in the 21st freaking century, why strangers give their time, their money and their lives to help each other too.
Lastly, Anita isn't boring.
Absolutely not.
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Very well said.
I do not believe in a religion, but believe in freedom of choice.
When did it become so fashionable for atheists to bash religion and religious people?
There is so much irony in this thread.
[quote author=Mr Moominpoops link=topic=21236.msg509747#msg509747 date=1204853961]
Oi kambrrshi! What a splendid thread!
Firstly, I'd like to disagree with Oncy. I can't find the original post but at one point he stated that there's a big difference between Ali's post and that of some other more high profile posters. I disagree. In fact, in his case (Ali) the curse of moronity has at least brought with it the gift of plain speaking. People who spout nonsense about the effect watching men kiss may have on children are subjecting us all to the most insidious and Daily Mailish crap of all. If you percieve men kissing as having a negative effect on children then what you're saying is that their behavious is very bad indeed - what else can you really mean if you think it damages our kids?
Hold the front page! The majority of members of the major religions don't think homosexual behaviour is morally acceptable! Whether you agree with them or not, it's scarcely a surprise. Entitled as you are to your opposite opinion, you're no more so than a Christian or Muslim is to his.
Secondly, everyone knows there's no basis for saying it 'turns kids gay'. You're gay or you're not (unless you're lucky enough to be bisexual). The only reason one could come to the conclusion that it does is if you yourself have felt strange yearnings, sparked by one man's affection for another. That's your own business, but just because you're (or have been) sexually confused doesn't mean that a young heterosexual man or a boy would be equally susceptible.
People are obviously very one-dimensional on your planet. Whether or not it's usual, whatever it does or doesn't say about the person's fundamental sexual orientation, adopting a gay lifestyle absolutely can be a choice - cf.(again) David Bowie in his early adulthood, to take just the most high profile example I can think of.
Thirdly, religion is something you choose to have. It's nothing at all like race or sexual orientation. Because it's a choice it's not unreasonable for people who have made the opposite choice to think your choice is really fucking stupid. If they thought you'd made a good choice, they'd make the same one. And here's a newsflash on religion - it's one of the main reasons why strangers still pick up weapons, even in the 21st freakin century, and kill each other.
There have been times, for various reasons, when I've wished it was as simple as that. Holding to what one thinks is right is by no means always easy. The "choice" you dismiss so glibly is as much and as little a choice as falling in love - in many ways it chooses you, not the other way round. And here's the Stop Press - religion is far and away the main reason, even in the 21st freaking century, why strangers give their time, their money and their lives to help each other too.
Lastly, Anita isn't boring.
Absolutely not.
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Very well said.
I do not believe in a religion, but believe in freedom of choice.
When did it become so fashionable for atheists to bash religion and religious people?
There is so much irony in this thread.
we need truth and reconciliation! 😉
*does puppets-on-strings motions with hands*
[quote author=Portly link=topic=21236.msg509845#msg509845 date=1204887609]
Send for Archbishop Desmond Tutu! ;D
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ha ha ... naaah, bring Johnny Clegg
Send for Archbishop Desmond Tutu! ;D
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ha ha ... naaah, bring Johnny Clegg
[quote author=Mamma Mia link=topic=21236.msg509834#msg509834 date=1204886820]
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Very well said.
I do not believe in a religion, but believe in freedom of choice.
When did it become so fashionable for atheists to bash religion and religious people?
There is so much irony in this thread.
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Most just question it, I don't see anything wrong with that. Religion has been given too much respect for far too long.
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Very well said.
I do not believe in a religion, but believe in freedom of choice.
When did it become so fashionable for atheists to bash religion and religious people?
There is so much irony in this thread.
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Most just question it, I don't see anything wrong with that. Religion has been given too much respect for far too long.
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Grungefuttock
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There's certainly nothing wrong with questioning religion - many religious people themselves do that, believe it or not - but numerous posters in this thread and others have gone much further than that.
BTW who decides how much respect is "too much" for any point of view? How about if those of us who belong to a religion take the same approach to your opinion? Will you stand up for our right to call you and your beliefs every name under The Lying Rag as well?
BTW who decides how much respect is "too much" for any point of view? How about if those of us who belong to a religion take the same approach to your opinion? Will you stand up for our right to call you and your beliefs every name under The Lying Rag as well?
[quote author=Grungefuttock link=topic=21236.msg509924#msg509924 date=1204893261]
BTW who decides how much respect is "too much" for any point of view? How about if those of us who belong to a religion take the same approach to your opinion? Will you stand up for our right to call you and your beliefs every name under The Lying Rag as well?
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Surely being a good Muslim, Jew or Christian would preclude that kind of behaviour though?
You know, it's always the "bad apples" who twist the word of God and decide it's OK to blow people up, or hang gays, or stop women from having abortions or whatever. I might have that last one wrong, actually.
BTW who decides how much respect is "too much" for any point of view? How about if those of us who belong to a religion take the same approach to your opinion? Will you stand up for our right to call you and your beliefs every name under The Lying Rag as well?
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Surely being a good Muslim, Jew or Christian would preclude that kind of behaviour though?
You know, it's always the "bad apples" who twist the word of God and decide it's OK to blow people up, or hang gays, or stop women from having abortions or whatever. I might have that last one wrong, actually.
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Mo Mia
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[quote author=IGotALuvlyBunchOfCoconuts link=topic=21236.msg509917#msg509917 date=1204892739]
[quote author=Mamma Mia link=topic=21236.msg509834#msg509834 date=1204886820]
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Very well said.
I do not believe in a religion, but believe in freedom of choice.
When did it become so fashionable for atheists to bash religion and religious people?
There is so much irony in this thread.
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Most just question it, I don't see anything wrong with that. Religion has been given too much respect for far too long.
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I'm not referring to people questioning religion.
You don't have to respect religion in order to respect religious people.
[quote author=Mamma Mia link=topic=21236.msg509834#msg509834 date=1204886820]
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Very well said.
I do not believe in a religion, but believe in freedom of choice.
When did it become so fashionable for atheists to bash religion and religious people?
There is so much irony in this thread.
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Most just question it, I don't see anything wrong with that. Religion has been given too much respect for far too long.
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I'm not referring to people questioning religion.
You don't have to respect religion in order to respect religious people.
a little story i think i should share with you. Went to drop someone off at a busy station today,and on my way back just outside the sation, something caught my eye, two guys hugging and kissing and that. if this had happened a few days ago, i would have probably thought 'queers' or something similar. But anyway, i just looked at tehm for a few seconds (if they would have seen, they would ahve probably thought i wanted in on the action), so, so me being me and after what happened in this thread, i went to them and asked them
"why they are with each other?" obviously not this blatant, but after talking to them for a while, saying i was studying the way people act towards and with each other.the answer that he gave me, has changed the way i feel towards gays for good.
He replied " do you have a girlfriend?" to which i replied "yes", and then he asked
"why are you with her?" i said that "she made me happy" he mumbled and... i added " everytime i leave her, i cant wait to see her next and just hearing her voice makes me smile" he replied,
everything you just said, replace her and she with him and he and thats how we feel about each other, I realised that why should i judge people on who or what makes them happy. So i just wanted to thank you lot for correcting me in my wrong ways, cos if this happened a few days ago, i certainly would have never approached them and get to know why they are together.
Thanks.
"why they are with each other?" obviously not this blatant, but after talking to them for a while, saying i was studying the way people act towards and with each other.the answer that he gave me, has changed the way i feel towards gays for good.
He replied " do you have a girlfriend?" to which i replied "yes", and then he asked
"why are you with her?" i said that "she made me happy" he mumbled and... i added " everytime i leave her, i cant wait to see her next and just hearing her voice makes me smile" he replied,
everything you just said, replace her and she with him and he and thats how we feel about each other, I realised that why should i judge people on who or what makes them happy. So i just wanted to thank you lot for correcting me in my wrong ways, cos if this happened a few days ago, i certainly would have never approached them and get to know why they are together.
Thanks.
