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One of the reasons why we lost the title

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Roger REDerer

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Robbie Keane.

Ok ok that's a bit harsh on the lad and admittedly, it's a narrow viewpoint. There are many other reasons, both obvious and hypothetical on how we lost the title.

But if Keane did turn out to be 'da bomb' we would have scored the goals when it mattered especially against those crap teams that came to Anfield. He'd also have earned the trust from Rafa to constantly play him and not put the likes of Ngog and Kuyt up front. He'd also formed the 'lethal' partnership we had hoped for with Torres. The 'ifs' and the 'maybes' could go on forever but....

Allow me to break it down for you all to analyze properly.

Started against Aston Villa (away) - failed to score, subbed 79 min (Benayoun)
Started against Stoke (home) - failed to score, subbed 73 min (Benayoun)
Started against Tottenham (away) - failed to score, subbed 66 min (Babel)
Started against Fulham (home) - failed to score, played full 90.
Started against West Ham (home) - failed to score, subbed 66 min (Ngog)
Started against Everton (home) - failed to score, subbed 67 min (Benayoun)

All the above games finished with a draw and a loss against Spurs.

Out of the games listed above, you'd be forgiven for assuming that 3 points were a dead cert even before kick-off, especially against teams like Stoke, Fulham and West Ham. That's 9 points. We'd have won the title by the proverbial country mile (we only needed a win and a draw out of them 3 games) if we had scored just a goal against each of those teams, which obviously would have been sufficient in getting 3 points each.

Goes to show the fine line of success and failure but with Keane leading our frontline, it was a friggin line as wide as a hippo's arse and he can't even hit it with a bloody banjo...
 
Oh fuck off.

You could also add the following to reasons:

1. Wrongly disallowed goal against Stoke at home cost us two points
2. Wrongly given penalty at OT for Utd v Spurs set them on the way to 3 points instead of none...

etc etc.

Its pointless (pardon the pun) and futile.

The simple reason we didn't win the title is because they got more points than us.
 
Rafa to constantly play him and not put the likes of Ngog and Kuyt up front.

Kuyt scored something like 8 goals when playing up front, a good return considering most of the season he was on the wing.

Keane missed too many sitters, but he's not the reason we didn't win the league
 
[quote author=KopRed link=topic=33758.msg875141#msg875141 date=1243322528]
He did say Keane is ONE of the reasons. I think that is valid enough.
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And one of the reasons is that the defenders didn't do their job properly in one of the games we lost.
Very sweeping statements.
 
Posting like this sometimes make me angry. Posting without thinking ain't good for you boy. Keane started 21 games(all competition) for us and scored 7 goals and had 5 assists. That's a decent return. After all its hard to blame him because he played for us half a season only. Lay the blame on Lucas. Dossena.
 
[quote author=Glock link=topic=33758.msg875148#msg875148 date=1243323257]
Lay the blame on Lucas. Dossena.
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Posting like this that sometimes make me angry. Posting without thinking ain't good for you boy.
 
Keane being overwhelmed as a player, and being altogether useless in several games, is a huge reason we didn't win the title. He wasn't the right purchase and eventually wasn't treated well, but he still underperformed and was woeful in many games.
 
So let me simplify this then Roger:

You think we didn't win the league because of Robbie Keane? :🙂
 
[quote author=Sheik Yerbouti link=topic=33758.msg875146#msg875146 date=1243323124]
[quote author=KopRed link=topic=33758.msg875141#msg875141 date=1243322528]
He did say Keane is ONE of the reasons. I think that is valid enough.
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And one of the reasons is that the defenders didn't do their job properly in one of the games we lost.
Very sweeping statements.
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Except that he did provide many reasons to backup his statement.
 
[quote author=Mors link=topic=33758.msg875164#msg875164 date=1243324120]
So let me simplify this then Roger:

You think we didn't win the league because of Robbie Keane? :🙂
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Didn't you read the thread properly Mors? Keane was one of the reasons, not the sole reason.
 
[quote author=KopRed link=topic=33758.msg875165#msg875165 date=1243324242]
[quote author=Sheik Yerbouti link=topic=33758.msg875146#msg875146 date=1243323124]
[quote author=KopRed link=topic=33758.msg875141#msg875141 date=1243322528]
He did say Keane is ONE of the reasons. I think that is valid enough.
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And one of the reasons is that the defenders didn't do their job properly in one of the games we lost.
Very sweeping statements.
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Except that he did provide many reasons to backup his statement.
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I think you're missing the point.
 
[quote author=Roger REDerer link=topic=33758.msg875150#msg875150 date=1243323274]
Dear Silly People,

Please read my post CAREFULLY.

regards,
Roger
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So what you're saying is (if I'm reading this carefully) that there are some reasons why we didn't win the League.

Interesting observation roger.
 
He's stating that there are 'some' reasons why we didn't win the league but proceeds to blather on about why Robbie Keane cost us the league.

Ffs
 
Well, duh.

We were reliant on our summer signings to give us an extra push this season and it's not happened. When your headline buy is bombed out after six months and the rest have little to no impact at all, you're going to find it hard to improve to the level required.

Last summer was a total disaster from start to finish meaning we'd shot ourselves in the foot before the season had even started. Thankfully Kuyt, Alonso, Yossi and the usual suspects stepped up to mask this.
 
geniune question, when was the last time we had a good winter? I mean when was the last time between nov and jan did we pick up more than average points?
 
[quote author=Roger REDerer link=topic=33758.msg875129#msg875129 date=1243321945]
Robbie Keane.

Ok ok that's a bit harsh on the lad and admittedly, it's a narrow viewpoint. There are many other reasons, both obvious and hypothetical on how we lost the title.

But if Keane did turn out to be 'da bomb' we would have scored the goals when it mattered especially against those crap teams that came to Anfield. He'd also have earned the trust from Rafa to constantly play him and not put the likes of Ngog and Kuyt up front. He'd also formed the 'lethal' partnership we had hoped for with Torres. The 'ifs' and the 'maybes' could go on forever but....

Allow me to break it down for you all to analyze properly.

Started against Aston Villa (away) - failed to score, subbed 79 min (Benayoun)
Started against Stoke (home) - failed to score, subbed 73 min (Benayoun)
Started against Tottenham (away) - failed to score, subbed 66 min (Babel)
Started against Fulham (home) - failed to score, played full 90.
Started against West Ham (home) - failed to score, subbed 66 min (Ngog)
Started against Everton (home) - failed to score, subbed 67 min (Benayoun)

All the above games finished with a draw and a loss against Spurs.

Out of the games listed above, you'd be forgiven for assuming that 3 points were a dead cert even before kick-off, especially against teams like Stoke, Fulham and West Ham. That's 9 points. We'd have won the title by the proverbial country mile (we only needed a win and a draw out of them 3 games) if we had scored just a goal against each of those teams, which obviously would have been sufficient in getting 3 points each.

Goes to show the fine line of success and failure but with Keane leading our frontline, it was a friggin line as wide as a hippo's arse and he can't even hit it with a bloody banjo...


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I think the times of the substitutions are very telling
 
[quote author=Roger REDerer link=topic=33758.msg875193#msg875193 date=1243324906]
Sigh...sometimes I just give up.
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Only sometimes. What a pity
 
[quote author=Roger REDerer link=topic=33758.msg875193#msg875193 date=1243324906]
Sigh...sometimes I just give up.
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Roger, I tell you what - why don't you clear up all the other factors that cost us the league aswell, instead of just banging on about Keane, as it kinda read like this:

'There loads of factors why we didn't win the league, but here's an in depth explanation of why it was all Keane's fault'
 
I dunno which bit do you all not understand.

My point = Keane contributed to our failure to win the title this season. It's that bloody simple. Yes, yes I know there are many factors too but today I just want to analyze on Keane. And maybe tomorrow we'll talk bout other factors. Ok ? Jeez.
 
Good Post.

If Parry hadn't signed Keane, then we could all be sitting here celebrating our glorious title winning campaign.
 
[quote author=Sheik Yerbouti link=topic=33758.msg875216#msg875216 date=1243326296]
Maybe you should have worded the title - One of the reasons why we lost the title Part 1: Robbie Keane


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One of the reasons why we lost the title

One of the reasons why we lost the title Part 1: Robbie Keane

what's the difference?
 
[quote author=Rafa4PM link=topic=33758.msg875270#msg875270 date=1243330261]
Good Post.

If Parry hadn't signed Keane, then we could all be sitting here celebrating our glorious title winning campaign.
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Repeating it doesn't make it true you know.
 
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