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Another point for the Klopp deserves a 10 is this:

Everyone’s biggest issue with Klopp (apart from losing finals) was that they believed he only had one way to approach the game. 100 miles an hour. Which we proved in the CL is great for Cups but will never ever win a league title. We bemoaned the fact we couldn’t control games. Go 1-0 up, even 2-0 up and shut up shop. We believed we could never win a title playing last seasons style as it causes fatigue and injury.

Well BOOM!

He’s completely transformed our style and while it may not be pretty and we’ve had some lucky wins and poor defeats in Europe, he’s managed to get us 51 pts doing it.

He’s a god amongst men in terms of a half season review.

Fuck it, he gets 11/10!!

Now we’ve got a defence, HO-HO-HO
 
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2018/19 Liverpool FC vs all the Premier League winning teams since 1999/2000. So far best defensive record and best points per game among all PL winners IN THIS CENTURY. If that's 8/10 performance by our manager, I'd like to see how 10/10 looks like.
 
He drew some games and we're out the league cup

I'm ok with an 8.5 thus far
 
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Judge Jules said:
I doubt it's a case of Hendo improving as such. IMO it's more a case of him being let off the leash now that the real Fabinho's emerged to take care of the grunt work in centre midfield. If Hendo had really needed to improve in order to make that pass to TAA, he wouldn't have done so this quickly. The new deal he was given just last September, and Klopp's sky-high praise for the guy at that time, both suggest that the club doesn't actually see him being bypassed by others in the squad any time soon. Don't let Hendo's monomaniac stalker on here get in your head.
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I dont think his quality has improved but I do think we've seen less of him playing within himself. I've always rated Hendo but playing as the lone holding midfielder has seen him sacrifice a lot of what made him so vital to our last title challenging team. Playing with 2 midfielders at the base (or with more competition for spots) has seen him reintroduce a lot of positivity into his play.
 
2012- After a heart breaking loss in the CL final and a season without trophies, Bayern recruit Shaqiri.

2013 - Bayern win the treble.

2018 - After a heart breaking loss in the CL final and a season without trophies, Liverpool recruit Shaqiri.

2019 - .......
 
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Dreambeliever said:
2012- After a heart breaking loss in the CL final and a season without trophies, Bayern recruit Shaqiri.

2013 - Bayern win the treble.

2018 - After a heart breaking loss in the CL final and a season without trophies, Bayern recruit Shaqiri.

2019 - .......
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You mean Liverpool recruit Shaq
 
Mystic said:
Bullshit, one of the biggest myths going around this season is that we don't play great attacking football anymore, it's complete rubbish, we are still an absolute joy to watch, neturals are just salty we aren't completely incompetent at defending these days.
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Go back and read our match threads on here for this season and tell me we are playing as well going forward.

This title charge is on the back off a superb defence. Our attack while not bad has been nowhere near last years level.

Firm is scoring fuck all, Salah took 14 games to get back in the grove and Mane has been hot and cold.
 
Dreambeliever said:
Go back and read our match threads on here for this season and tell me we are playing as well going forward.

This title charge is on the back off a superb defence. Our attack while not bad has been nowhere near last years level.

Firm is scoring fuck all, Salah took 14 games to get back in the grove and Mane has been hot and cold.
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Have we scored the same amount of goals in the league as last season so far in the league ?
 
Ijg said:
We lost every away game in Europe? Played shit in 2/3? How am I wrong here?
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We played shit in 1 away game.

But it’s irrelevant in the bigger picture. We qualified that was the goal and we did while tearing up the league
 
Dreambeliever said:
Go back and read our match threads on here for this season and tell me we are playing as well going forward.

This title charge is on the back off a superb defence. Our attack while not bad has been nowhere near last years level.

Firm is scoring fuck all, Salah took 14 games to get back in the grove and Mane has been hot and cold.
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Yet we've scored more goals than we did at this point last season, failing to score in only a single league game, explain how that inconvenient fact fits into this picture?

We're much less chaotic than last season, that's why it seems less exciting, thus why you and so many others are jumping to the conclusion we are less of an attacking / exciting side, but the truth is we're actually a much more effective attacking unit, on top of being a much more effective defensive unit, put simply, we are fucking brilliant.
 
Ok..... ok ........ reality check, we're in the last 16 of the CL & we"re only top of the premiership, that"s how shit we are.
Sack the abject failure that is Judgen Klopp and let's get rid of those under achieving waste of money fuck wits like Shaq, VVD & Becker and Co.
 
Shay_K said:
Ok..... ok ........ reality check, we're in the last 16 of the CL & we"re only top of the premiership, that"s how shit we are.
Sack the abject failure that is Judgen Klopp and let's get rid of those under achieving waste of money fuck wits like Shaq, VVD & Becker and Co.
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That would surely be over the top reaction. We should give them time to get things straight.
 
You lot have lost your heads. It’s a review of our whole SEASON so far, 10/10 for me would be winning every game and being in every competition, but we’re not.

In the league - 10/10 - we’re top, 16 wins, 3 draws.

In the champions league - tough group, won all home games, lost all away games, didn’t play well away from home, but got through the group anyway - 7/10.

League Cup - got knocked out first round we played in, didn’t play too great - 3/10.

FA Cup - n/a.

Average 8/10 is fair? The actual average would be 6.66/10 but I feel like that is harsh cause our league form is unreal.
 
Ijg said:
You lot have lost your heads. It’s a review of our whole SEASON so far, 10/10 for me would be winning every game and being in every competition, but we’re not.

In the league - 10/10 - we’re top, 16 wins, 3 draws.

In the champions league - tough group, won all home games, lost all away games, didn’t play well away from home, but got through the group anyway - 7/10.

League Cup - got knocked out first round we played in, didn’t play too great - 3/10.

FA Cup - n/a.

Average 8/10 is fair? The actual average would be 6.66/10 but I feel like that is harsh cause our league form is unreal.
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I'd say Europe is 10/10 too because he did the bare minimum to qualify. That's the definition of perfection. If he wasted time and energy getting maximum points out of the group, when despite the name it's not actually a league, it's a cup competition, you get nothing for those points, then putting in any effort beyond what you needed to do to qualify is actually a huge negative and a sign of stupidity. The other cups don't matter much. Overall they'd bring it down to 9.9 or so. Rounding it up, 10/10 for the season so far is a pretty fair weighted average.
 
Ijg said:
You lot have lost your heads. It’s a review of our whole SEASON so far, 10/10 for me would be winning every game and being in every competition, but we’re not.

In the league - 10/10 - we’re top, 16 wins, 3 draws.

In the champions league - tough group, won all home games, lost all away games, didn’t play well away from home, but got through the group anyway - 7/10.

League Cup - got knocked out first round we played in, didn’t play too great - 3/10.

FA Cup - n/a.

Average 8/10 is fair? The actual average would be 6.66/10 but I feel like that is harsh cause our league form is unreal.
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That's like saying the league cup has a similar weighting to the league in your maths. Which is lunacy. The league cup is a tinpot that nobody would give much of a shit about if we won it. Would it appease anybody? Would it make us contenders? And also, I don't think we can, or should, give equal weighting to the CL either. Yes, it is a huge thing in our history, but it is not the test of the best team in our bread and butter league. This should be weighted 60/ 35/ 5 for the League, CL and League cup.
 
Ijg said:
You lot have lost your heads. It’s a review of our whole SEASON so far, 10/10 for me would be winning every game and being in every competition, but we’re not.

In the league - 10/10 - we’re top, 16 wins, 3 draws.

In the champions league - tough group, won all home games, lost all away games, didn’t play well away from home, but got through the group anyway - 7/10.

League Cup - got knocked out first round we played in, didn’t play too great - 3/10.

FA Cup - n/a.

Average 8/10 is fair? The actual average would be 6.66/10 but I feel like that is harsh cause our league form is unreal.
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It probably depends on how you weight those losses. Against Chelsea a much changed team against which was close to a full strength team for them (something like 5-6 changes for us vs. 3 for them, and they brought on their stars whereas we finished the game, correct me if I'm wrong, with virtually a reserve team).

PSG away we were very very good, Napoli less so b ut maybe a little unlucky to lose it. RSB who knows WTF happened.

In the league we are well beyond 10/10 with our best performance to this date in a century (or is it in the entire history of the club, can't remember).

I'd say 9.5 / 10 is about right. 8 clearly is way too low.
 
doctor_mac said:
That's like saying the league cup has a similar weighting to the league in your maths. Which is lunacy. The league cup is a tinpot that nobody would give much of a shit about if we won it. Would it appease anybody? Would it make us contenders? And also, I don't think we can, or should, give equal weighting to the CL either. Yes, it is a huge thing in our history, but it is not the test of the best team in our bread and butter league. This should be weighted 60/ 35/ 5 for the League, CL and League cup.
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Finally some sense. And the aim for CL during this half term is to get through to knock out stages. Accomplished. Doesn't matter how we did it, only that we did it.
 
Actually so it seems for some 10/10 requires perfect performance winning every game in front of us. I'd love to be your manager doing your appraisals.

There has to be some reconciliation with where we ended last season and our performance last season and also what we are up against. We had two very obvious weakness last year

1. inability to perform in league consistently while maintaining a cup run.
2. We had a hapless defense on the first half of last season and our defense was largely to blame for our CL final loss.

I think both points have been addressed quite well by the manager.

1. We have one of the best defensive records of all time at this stage of the season...i'd say that's clearly a turnaround.
2. The squad additions have been near enough flawless and the depth of the squad shows in our ability to win league games after every CL games this season.

If it's a mod term score card, you can't score him down saying we could potentially slip up in the second half...that can be reconciled during the second half.

So far....flawless. 10/10.
 
doctor_mac said:
That's like saying the league cup has a similar weighting to the league in your maths. Which is lunacy. The league cup is a tinpot that nobody would give much of a shit about if we won it. Would it appease anybody? Would it make us contenders? And also, I don't think we can, or should, give equal weighting to the CL either. Yes, it is a huge thing in our history, but it is not the test of the best team in our bread and butter league. This should be weighted 60/ 35/ 5 for the League, CL and League cup.
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You're not a massive fan of the FA cup then, I take it?
 
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