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Poll Ole at the wheel choice...

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Which do you prefer?

  • Smash the scum, Ole sacked.

    Votes: 6 9.4%
  • Smash the scum, Ole stays.

    Votes: 58 90.6%

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Fact is Ole played Maguire.He's not fit enough. Being just about fit does not mean he's ready to take on the World's best.That was 100% down to Ole. Ole spent half the week throwing up smokescreens about 2/3 players not being fit. After the Leicester defeat he basically said "we have to do better".

Comes across as a bit tactically naive. Just seems to throw the team together and just sits watching like one of the coaching staff.

Our Boss, as are many, is on the touchline. All this stuff about Klopp bonhomie and closeness to his players is overdone. He barked out Hendo midway through the second half because we were not closing in on them quick enough. Meanwhile nice Ole was sitting looking on dispassionately.

Certain players take the easy route if they can get away with it...but nobody has a day off with Klopp in charge.
 
Rodgers is the exact opposite of Ole. Top level experience, a specific style of play and no preexisting status at the club. Maybe that’s what they’re looking for right now but I’d be very surprised if they went there. I think he’d do It in a flash and make a good job of it though.
 
Rodgers is the exact opposite of Ole. Top level experience, a specific style of play and no preexisting status at the club. Maybe that’s what they’re looking for right now but I’d be very surprised if they went there. I think he’d do It in a flash and make a good job of it though.

Rodgers would be all over the United job if he was offered it. No doubt about that.
 
He’s a bit pants in Europe though, even Ole is better abroad so will need to sort that out if he wants a regular CL qualifier.
 


For some reason I think it would be hilarious to have Rodgers in charge of Ronaldo. "Look Ronnie... come here. I need you to run more, OK? Be less selfish, pass to your teammates, there is a beautiful human be... Where are you going, Ronnie?"
 
He’s a bit pants in Europe though, even Ole is better abroad so will need to sort that out if he wants a regular CL qualifier.

He is several orders of magnitude better coach than Ole and will do very well with them in the league and domestic cups.
 
I think Rodgers would be a very good appointment for them, but would their fans go for it. I mean Everton couldn't possibly get a better manager than Rafa and there were still plenty of them willing to cut off their noses. I think an ex Liverpool manager taking the Utd job, particularly one who's as fond of his own voice as Rodgers, would find it very hard to win over the fans without instant silverware.
 
Our Boss, as are many, is on the touchline. All this stuff about Klopp bonhomie and closeness to his players is overdone. He barked out Hendo midway through the second half because we were not closing in on them quick enough. Meanwhile nice Ole was sitting looking on dispassionately.

Certain players take the easy route if they can get away with it...but nobody has a day off with Klopp in charge.

Completely agree with the last sentence, but not the first point. You can be close to players and give them a bollocking. In fact, I think his closeness to them allows him to bollock them and not to elicit a negative response. And then on the other hand you've got Ole who wouldn't dare bollock Ronaldo and Pogba as they're preening around the pitch.
 


For some reason I think it would be hilarious to have Rodgers in charge of Ronaldo. "Look Ronnie... come here. I need you to run more, OK? Be less selfish, pass to your teammates, there is a beautiful human be... Where are you going, Ronnie?"

He would show off by speaking to Ronald in Spanish. Try and show him how cultured he is.
 
Too much pressure at Man U for Rodgers. Completely different environment.
Well, he was a Gerrard slip away from winning the league with us, but there's something in that. Could he handle those big personalities at Utd, or would he want to?

Whoever comes in, their first task surely has to be to strip out the likes of Pogba and Ronaldo, and build around the humble, hardworking and talented players that are undoubtedly on the books at Utd. Does Rodgers have it in him to take on that fight? He always seemed somewhat cowed by SG and Suarez, and he used to leave Suarez on at times when games were won and we should have been resting him, because he seemed frightened of a surly look. Klopp would make that call every time. Perhaps Rogers has grown and is big enough to make those calls. Certainly his 'philosophy' and coaching are excellent, and the guy would improve Utd if the players bought into his vision.
 
It was a few months into David Moyes’s ill-fated reign at Manchester United, and with results in freefall and the dressing room in mutiny, Patrice Evra decided to go to see the only man he knew who could fix things.
“Boss, you have to help David,” he pleaded with Alex Ferguson on a visit to his home in Cheshire.
Ferguson refused. “I’ve given him the biggest chance of his life,” he said. “I think it’s fair that I keep a distance and let him do his job.”
Perhaps the most interesting thing about this vignette – related in Evra’s recent autobiography – is its casualness. The fact Evra still referred to Ferguson as “boss”, or saw nothing remotely untoward in the fact he was going behind the back of his manager to appeal to his predecessor (and to do what, exactly?).
The fact Ferguson still regarded Moyes’s position as his own personal bequest. As things turned out, Moyes would not be the last United manager to learn that even when you have ascended to one of the biggest jobs in club football, you still answer to a higher power.
Ole Gunnar Solskjær has never made any secret of his reverence for his former manager. Pretty much from the moment he took over as caretaker he made it clear he intended to re-establish the Ferguson blueprint, piece by piece. He restored Ferguson’s beloved quiz nights. He ordered players to wear club suits before matches, as they had done in the Ferguson era. He brought Ferguson’s former assistant Mike Phelan back on to the coaching staff. He even refused to park his car in Ferguson’s old parking space at Carrington out of respect. “It just doesn’t feel right parking there,” he is reported to have told colleagues. “It’s still the gaffer’s place.”

And yet in recent weeks, as results have taken a downturn and his future at United has come under increasing scrutiny, Solskjær has discovered that positing oneself as the heir to Ferguson comes with pitfalls as well as benefits, particularly when the man himself is still hanging around the joint.


This month a video emerged of Ferguson criticising Solskjær’s decision to drop Cristiano Ronaldo for the game against Everton. “You should always start your best player,” Ferguson tells the former cage fighter Khabib Nurmagomedov. Then, during the 5-0 defeat against Liverpool last Sunday, came the face that launched a thousand memes. Glowering up in the Old Trafford stands, Ferguson was unimpressed with what he was watching and seemed not to care who knew it.
On Tuesday, Ferguson made a rare appearance at the training ground. It is not known which parking space he used. Nevertheless, his presence itself was riotously open to interpretation: a show of support for Solskjær or an ominous sign, depending on which news website you read.
Within hours the club’s communications department had kicked into action, briefing friendly journalists that Ferguson’s visit was no more than a “suit fitting”. Partly, of course, there is an element of media mischief to all this.
Equally, however, there is something essentially quite weird about the extent to which this global super-club still appear to be in thrall to a retired 79-year-old man who hasn’t coached a football team in almost a decade. It’s also a situation without any real precedent. Naturally Matt Busby at United and Bill Shankly at Liverpool continued to wield influence and cast a shadow on their successors long after they stepped down. But at least they weren’t having their reaction filmed every time Liverpool or United conceded a goal.
Officially, Ferguson is a club ambassador and a much-loved legend. Unofficially, he appears to be a sort of manager emeritus: his counsel keenly sought, his blessing greatly valued, his every utterance consecrated as if it were the word of the divine. This is a veneration that goes beyond simply celebrating and respecting the achievements of your greatest manager. Underpinning the enduring cult of Ferguson is the essentialist idea that his greatness can be bestowed by his presence alone. That the attributes and traits that made him such a brilliant coach can somehow be transmitted without him giving a single team talk or picking a single squad.

For a club struggling to match up their past with their future, desperate for short-term success and tiring of long-term promises, Fergusonism has an easy appeal. The logic goes something like this: Ferguson was the best coach, and United were the best team, and so all you have to do is crack the code to the Ferguson genome (or “United DNA”, as Solskjær so touchingly terms it), and world domination will inevitably follow.
In a way, each of United’s past four managerial appointments has been an attempt to reanimate Ferguson in a different bodily form. Solskjær was an effort to recreate the spirit and attacking ethos of the Ferguson era; José Mourinho the pragmatism and laser-focus on trophies; Louis van Gaal the schoolmasterly arrogance and magnetic personality; Moyes the Scottish work ethic. The result: three trophies in eight years. A possible conclusion: that your one-off genius was, in fact, a one-off genius.

And yet for many supporters, and even members of the club hierarchy, Fergusonism remains an article of faith, a reference point, United’s Rosetta stone, unquestioned and unquestionable. Naturally it is an impression the man himself has done little to deter, building his leadership brand to the tune of two books, an acclaimed documentary film and a teaching post at Harvard. Meanwhile, former United players in the media – many of whom knew little else but Ferguson – espouse his teachings as if they were universal truths, rather than a particular approach to a particular situation at a particular time.

Fergusonism is why United should always play with wingers. Fergusonism is why the ultimate responsibility always lies with the players. Fergusonism is why all managers deserve time, however bad things get. But what if everyone’s been doing it wrong? What if the real lesson of the Ferguson era was that in order to drive real change you need an apostate, a young visionary prepared to sweep everything away and build a club along new principles, from the academy upwards?

By now, we have probably all come to our own conclusion about whether Solskjær can be that man. In the meantime, it is probably worth reflecting on just what this drifting club need right now.
Never have United felt more in need of a clean break, a fresh start, a cultural reset, a new idea. Instead, they remain beguiled by the idea of reanimating the past: by the one magic switch that will flick everything back to the way it once was.
 
I think Rodgers would be a very good appointment for them, but would their fans go for it. I mean Everton couldn't possibly get a better manager than Rafa and there were still plenty of them willing to cut off their noses. I think an ex Liverpool manager taking the Utd job, particularly one who's as fond of his own voice as Rodgers, would find it very hard to win over the fans without instant silverware.
Most don’t want him on Red Cafe.
 
What makes people think that Rodgers would even want the job...? He has a sweet thing going at Leicester City. Why would he want to step in to the cauldron that is Man Utd. Ego aside' He would have to be mental to take that Job
 
You don’t understand Rodgers at all if you think he wouldn’t jump at the role.
then sorry I don't
But I would think after Moyes,Van Gaal, Mourinho and Solskjaer he would ask himself If he needs the hastle.He only need get Leicester City into Europe every season and a few good runs in the Cups to keep the board and fans happy. If he did that at Utd they would be baying for his blood
 
then sorry I don't
But I would think after Moyes,Van Gaal, Mourinho and Solskjaer he would ask himself If he needs the hastle.He only need get Leicester City into Europe every season and a few good runs in the Cups to keep the board and fans happy. If he did that at Utd they would be baying for his blood
He has one of the biggest egos in world football.
Leicester have always been a stepping stone to one of the big boys again. He’d jump at the Utd job. Even if he fails he’d have teams lining up to take him.
 
Heart broken...So he was a United supporter? But what about the shankly esque salute that he used to perform occasionally when we scored? I guess it was part of his act...

So when he goes to United will he impersonate Fergie by taking to up whiskey drinking and intimidating referees?
 
So we got the perfect result so far...

Smash Scum 👍
Ole stays 👍
Scum win handsomely following week to quieten any noise of impending sacking 👍

Can we get a perfect 4, with them taking points off City next week?
 
So we got the perfect result so far...

Smash Scum 👍
Ole stays 👍
Scum win handsomely following week to quieten any noise of impending sacking 👍

Can we get a perfect 4, with them taking points off City next week?

And injuring a couple of key City players in the process of getting their hard earned draw.
 
What makes people think that Rodgers would even want the job...? He has a sweet thing going at Leicester City. Why would he want to step in to the cauldron that is Man Utd. Ego aside' He would have to be mental to take that Job

There is the crux.
And to be fair, he would be one of many who would consider it due to their ego.
 
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