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Oh Maureen, you are awful.

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The hypothesis is largely based on the conversations centring around the England team at the time of the world cup and just afterwards. The conversation - played out on TV and in the leading articles in most newspapers - was basically around about where Wayne Rooney should play and who should be the captain. Immediately afterwards, the majority of the stories were about who should be the next captain. Essentially the main decision Roy Hodgson had to make - before he'd even picked a squad, before he'd decided what system he wanted to play and who would best fit that system, was to make a totemic, ultimately irrelevant decision because that's what he was being asked to do by the media.

He didn't turn around and say you've got this arse about tit, he just went along with it, as he always does, as managers did before him, with their instance on referring to players by their nicknames. We've built up a senseless, self-defeating culture of celebrity around footballers in this country - largely started by Sky Sports - that has meant the media and the viewers pandering to them. Witness the whole debate about where Gerrard should play back when Benitez played him off the right.

The conversation that plays out on TV is very little about football and mostly about celebrity, because like most other 'cultural' aspects of society, it's governed by fear. Fear that people who watch are stupid and, as you posit, just want to laugh at Robbie Savage.

If that's true, that people don't want the intelligent dialogue, then how come so many people listen to the 'niche' views of The Football Weekly podcast, or The Football Ramble? Explain away the success of those podcasts, staffed entirely by people with thoughtful discourse and lack of celebrity.

With have a large proportion of the media whose existence is reliant on football. That media then generate a huge amount of noise, and what the FA regard as public opinion. That noise then has a negative effect on the decisions the FA make and the decision the England manager makes. That's my assertion. I've no evidence for it, but I at least have an argument.

Talking around something means talking about anything but the subject. Why does this weasel language creep into everything, even bloody forums on the interweb?
 
Harry Redknapp was on talksport earlier, usually he comes out with a load of nonsense but I thought he had a very good point for a change.

Harry was talking about the comparisons made between Wenger and the other managers in the league upon his arrival in England and how the press made a lot of how calm and studious Arsene was when every other manager was jumping around shouting. Yet when things took a turn Wenger ended up being just as mad as everyone else.

Redknapp just said it's easy to to be a manager when things are going well. It makes me think about Mourinho, has he ever been a manager when things aren't going well? He's a dick at the best of times, how's he going to act if he can't turn their fortunes around soon?

I imagine he'll continue to act like a dick.
 


I'm going with Hazard as I think his pen miss on tuesday night looked almost deliberate
 
WTF has caused the change in that guy? From Prem Player of 2014/15 to a ghost in the course of a single close season. If it is Hazard and the reason for the change is Mourinho himself, what's caused the change in *him*?
 


I'm going with Hazard as I think his pen miss on tuesday night looked almost deliberate


I read that earlier but it was directly attributed to Fabregash. I didn't bother linking coz it sounded like BS but... never know.
 
Incidentally, I thought Harry Redknapp looked very pissed off with our win yesterday (yes, even more dour than his usual droopy expression). Just me?
 
Incidentally, I thought Harry Redknapp looked very pissed off with our win yesterday (yes, even more dour than his usual droopy expression). Just me?
Nope - I thought the same. He was deffo acting a bit weird. Maybe his love of the microphone has caused him to re-evaluate his own sense of punditry skills. I think he has realised (quite rightly) he's over reached himself. In my opinion he's best suited to 5 second post match sound bites rather than logical in-depth analysis. I actually felt a little sorry for him.....
 
Well he should feel bitter('Arry Redknapp), one day he is managing the fifth best team & club in the Premiership, he is rumoured to be in line the England job and his dog has made a killing on interbank trading. Today he is basically unemployed, his cheeks have sunk lower than his chin and he is competing with Rio Fucking Ferdinand to get a word in.
 
Incidentally, I thought Harry Redknapp looked very pissed off with our win yesterday (yes, even more dour than his usual droopy expression). Just me?

His dog is a lifelong red. When Harry said that Liverpool looked 'miles away' from being a good squad, the dog promptly changed the locks on the house and supeglued the car window shut. It's now descended into a sad situation in which lawyers are speaking to lawyers, the family is split down the middle and Harry sleeps in the kennel.
 
I thought that Redknapp was pissed off with having to somewhat backtrack from his assesment earlier in the season that we were 'bang average'.
 
His dog is a lifelong red. When Harry said that Liverpool looked 'miles away' from being a good squad, the dog promptly changed the locks on the house and supeglued the car window shut. It's now descended into a sad situation in which lawyers are speaking to lawyers, the family is split down the middle and Harry sleeps in the kennel.

Rio Ferdinand on the other hand was actually good, and very complimentary about us yesterday. I suppose he had to be, but still.
 
Hazard has history with Jose, from when he first came back and publically criticised him, which Hazard was pissed about.
 
Hazard has history with Jose, from when he first came back and publically criticised him, which Hazard was pissed about.
That stems from the time when Hazard ran over Maureen's mother's toes in the car park. She was wearing a new pair of shoes and everything. He said sorry but didn't offer to replace the shoes.

The tight bastard.
 
Hazard not happy, it was reported Costa wanted to go back to Spain in the off-season, Fabregas& Mourinho have form and I get the impression Mourinho doesn't fully trust Oscar.

Add in Terry & Ivanovic rapid decline, Matic's loss of form, Courtois being injured and a pile of other bang average players that struggle when the above players aren't covering their limitations (Rameres, Cahill, Obi-Mikel).

Tie that all up with the fact that Mourinho isn't a tactical genius - he has a specific system and setup designed around protecting space in the defensive third and counter-attacking clinically with world class, fast attacking players.

If the system isn't functioning - and they don't have the personnel to shake up the starting lineup - then they're fucked for a while.

Mourinho won't make changes - if anything he'll focus more on defensive solidity until such point as key players regain form.

If those key players have in anyway lost faith - then Mourinho is doomed.
 
Rio Ferdinand on the other hand was actually good, and very complimentary about us yesterday. I suppose he had to be, but still.

Yes, it pains me to say so but he was quite good - didn't waste his words, focused on a few key issues and was clear in his analysis. It was no surprise he viewed Moreno's credentials as a defender with a high degree of scepticism.
 
Hazard not happy, it was reported Costa wanted to go back to Spain in the off-season, Fabregas& Mourinho have form and I get the impression Mourinho doesn't fully trust Oscar.

Add in Terry & Ivanovic rapid decline, Matic's loss of form, Courtois being injured and a pile of other bang average players that struggle when the above players aren't covering their limitations (Rameres, Cahill, Obi-Mikel).

Tie that all up with the fact that Mourinho isn't a tactical genius - he has a specific system and setup designed around protecting space in the defensive third and counter-attacking clinically with world class, fast attacking players.

If the system isn't functioning - and they don't have the personnel to shake up the starting lineup - then they're fucked for a while.

Mourinho won't make changes - if anything he'll focus more on defensive solidity until such point as key players regain form.

If those key players have in anyway lost faith - then Mourinho is doomed.

A good analysis. Is it ok though if I just point and laugh at them and then not give a flying fuck about it? Utter scum of a club from their criminal owner to their ridiculous 'fans'. Beautiful.
 
Yes, it pains me to say so but he was quite good - didn't waste his words, focused on a few key issues and was clear in his analysis. It was no surprise he viewed Moreno's credentials as a defender with a high degree of scepticism.

It will pain you more to learn this is probably linked to his ex-club and ex-manager. Most of that team when you look at them now and listen to them are quite intelligent and actually sound like professional people who know what they are doing. Comparing that to the way Redknapp, Fowler, McManaman and Owen speak, it's not a surprise they wiped the floor with us in the 90's.
 
It still saddens me what an easy ride he has. Some might say, 'What? He's being savaged,' but he's really not. He's still getting loads of excuses offered by the commentators. On MOTD last Saturday, for example, they should have absolutely condemned him for his post-match antics, and they were shrugged off with a smile by that twat Lineker. This man is 52. FIFTY-TWO. He's a multi-millionaire, leading an incredibly comfortable, cossetted, privileged life, and he's acting like socipathic eight year old. He's a disgusting individual.
 
A good analysis. Is it ok though if I just point and laugh at them and then not give a flying fuck about it? Utter scum of a club from their criminal owner to their ridiculous 'fans'. Beautiful.

I'd absolutely encourage it.
 
Incidentally, I thought Harry Redknapp looked very pissed off with our win yesterday (yes, even more dour than his usual droopy expression). Just me?

No, it was very strange. At one point he was hunched over, almost bent double, and speaking directly at the table. He looked very ill-at-ease.
 
@martynziegler: Exclusive: Jose Mourinho is to be the subject of an individual legal claim from former Chelsea team doctor Eva Carneiro.
 
@martynziegler: Legal papers to be served on Mourinho this week as part of separate but connected action by Carneiro also against Chelsea.
 
@martynziegler: Mourinho could be liable personally for damages if vicitimisation or discrimination is proved in the Carneiro case.
 
This is amazing by Martin Samuel. Apparently all the Chelsea players are shite which makes Mourinho even more of a genius for winning it last year.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/fo...lsea-Jose-Mourinho-s-players-aren-t-good.html

There's a sort of point in there somewhere, not about Mourinho's quality as a manager, but the difference between genuinely great players and ones that aren't because they can't keep up that level consistently. But I don't care how good Mourinho is, no manager could cope with such a large collective drop in form across his squad; Hazard, Matic, Fabregas, Costa, Terry, Ivanovic, Cahill - half his first team have dropped off a cliff form-wise.

He tried to buy Stones because he knew Terry was on his last legs, and I'm not sure who else they were in for, but it does seem as if the lack of activity and some strange signings, have also contributed to a season of amazing underachievement so far.

Long may it continue.
 
@martynziegler: Exclusive: Jose Mourinho is to be the subject of an individual legal claim from former Chelsea team doctor Eva Carneiro.

Wow. Her action against the club won't be for peanuts, so to add this to it she must really be steamed about the way he treated her. Hell hath no fury, and all that.
 
Wow. Her action against the club won't be for peanuts, so to add this to it she must really be steamed about the way he treated her. Hell hath no fury, and all that.

Not even I took my case that personal as to name individual defendants. She must want some serious vengeance, I love her.

Legally the reason could be if she is seeking punitive damages (i.e. damages to punish Chelsea rather than just compensate her). It is pretty difficult to hold the club vicariously liable for the actions of an employee when it comes to punitive damages, and normally you would never bother to target the employee because they can't afford to pay. In this case hats off to her lawyers, by naming Mourinho it opens the door to punitive damages and he can definitely afford to pay. She could end him.
 
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