so ... GIVE IT TO HIM BABY ... uh huh uh huh (the offspring song)
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so ... GIVE IT TO HIM BABY ... uh huh uh huh (the offspring song)
Exactly!!!
I don't think it's that simple. If we offer him loads less than Real he won't stay here but, if (a) we offer him a little less, (b) he gets the chance of regular first team football here in a decent side and (c) he enjoys his loan year, I think we'd have a good shot at signing him up on a permanent.
Based on his reactions to scoring and his general rapport with team-mates the early signs are good, money of course will be a big factor but enjoying his footie will be up there I think.
... for Madrid as it's all clearly their cunning plan to tap Suarez up and sign him in the summer.
*fingers in ears* Lalalalalala
I'm sorry, I haven't been following football and especially the silly season as closely this year since we have been so depressingly bad but -
LUKA MODRIC TO REAL MADRID FOR 33 MILLION POUNDS
HAHAHAHAHA!
Spurs really really got their shit together
that's absolutely amazing to me
Hmm, good as he is, he certainly does not share the great defensive qualities (whether it be awareness or positioning) that Alonso had.
Why? He's good. Although I don't think anybody particularly benefits from the deal. Spurs lose one of their best players, but he'll find it hard to get into the Madrid side.
Well hopefully we benefit because Sahin will come to us.
Has anybody else put Sahin in their fantasy footy team? I say get him in if you haven't - His price is going to rocket this week.
From the Mirror:
From the limited amount I've seen of Sahin he is very obviously a highly skilled player with vision and would fit into any team. He has definitely helped the group and weighed in with goals which we were failing at.
The runs he makes are fantastic. He opens up loads of space & loves taking the ball under pressure.
Put simply he makes it look easy.
The best thing is, when you look at the dortmund compilations he's still not at that level, he doesn't have that burst of pace yet or quite the same physical presence.
To think he will get better is mouth watering. He's also playing more of the Gerrard role which I expected him to, but which he hasn't before, & doing it with style.
The effect it had on suarez was clear, that intelligence & ability to turn & remove two or three players from the equation gave him more freedom, along with having two quick players alongside.
Not for this thread perhaps, but I'd be interested to see suarez movement against Norwich, he seemed to play more centrally & more of a traditional strikers role & not have to drift inside or wide.
Put simply he makes it look easy.
The best thing is, when you look at the dortmund compilations he's still not at that level, he doesn't have that burst of pace yet or quite the same physical presence.
To think he will get better is mouth watering. He's also playing more of the Gerrard role which I expected him to, but which he hasn't before, & doing it with style.
The effect it had on suarez was clear, that intelligence & ability to turn & remove two or three players from the equation gave him more freedom, along with having two quick players alongside.
Not for this thread perhaps, but I'd be interested to see suarez movement against Norwich, he seemed to play more centrally & more of a traditional strikers role & not have to drift inside or wide.
Yes they are, and I would add something which Rodgers (understandably) leaves out, namely the point about first team football. If in a year's time Sahin is still going to get fewer first team opportunities at Real than he would here, which is entirely possible, that could well be a factor too.
He's treading a fine line between backing the player & feeding his ego & love for the club, & pushing his price up by saying we want him or need him.
If he carries on in this vein all season though, either real will take him back or sell him to chelsea, utd or city, sadly. The only chance we have is him falling in love with the club & us getting cl footy.
If he carries on in this vein all season though, either real will take him back or sell him to chelsea, utd or city, sadly. The only chance we have is him falling in love with the club & us getting cl footy.
Not sure about that. If things go well here, whether or not that involves getting 4th place or better, in a year's time Sahin could be faced with a situation in which he's being asked to give up a secure first team spot in a happy club that's going places, in favour of returning to Real or going to Chelsea or Citeh (at none of which he'd be likely to play as often) or ManUre (when he's just been at Liverpool). I'm not saying it's nailed on that he'd stay, but I am saying we'd be in with a real chance of getting him to sign permanently.
You're certainly more optimistic than I jj, I hope you're right though, obviously!
So do I mate, so do I.
The issues with Madrid persist. Ozil was substituted early in the game on Sunday, and Ramos protested by wearing his shirt:
Ozil has really struggled this year - with Modric there, he may be feeling the pressure. If Ozil goes (we've been supposedly 'monitoring' the situation), our chances of Sahin staying drop to nil imo.
Ozil has really struggled this year - with Modric there, he may be feeling the pressure. If Ozil goes (we've been supposedly 'monitoring' the situation), our chances of Sahin staying drop to nil imo.
We need top 4 IMO if we are to get him. I can't see him staying with us regardless of how much he enjoys it if we only get 8th. If he continues to improve and we don't make top 4 there will be plenty of clubs who are in the champions league who will be after him if madrid are interested in selling.
Hope for the best, expect the worst syndrome. I know exactly how you feel.
There is no point worrying about it now. You can't always predict what Real will do.
This is a club that sold Sneidjer and Robben off just because they fancied some new faces and wanted to remove the Dutch element.
Modric plays in Sahin's position not Ozil anyway.
This is a club that sold Sneidjer and Robben off just because they fancied some new faces and wanted to remove the Dutch element.
Modric plays in Sahin's position not Ozil anyway.
I think it's worth remembering how club politics works at that place. Madrid will sign a couple of very big players every season dpending on who's in fashion, the timing of club elections and so on. it's impossible to say who Sahin could end up competing with if he went back next season, it could be two totally new signings. They might fancy taking Suso and leaving us with Sahin, for example.
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