Nuri Sahin, Part III (Agreed, pending medical)
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Well you won't see me defending that signing!
* and you're forgetting Downing's sell-on value........
Liverpool Guzump Arsenal For Nuri Sahin Loan
Liverpool are on the verge of signing Nuri Sahin on-loan from Real Madrid after fending off interest from Arsenal. Nuri Sahin looks set for a move to Anfield (Picture: Action Images) The news has come as a notable disappointment to the Gunners, who had been confident of securing a season-long loan deal for Sahin earlier this week, only to be beaten at the last minute. Arsenal had agreed terms on a transfer with both Madrid and Sahin over the weekend, and manager Arsene Wenger had even spoken to the player on the phone to reassure him his development was in safe hands. But with just the formalities to complete, Liverpool stepped in on Wednesday evening and offered a significantly better deal, which Arsenal refused to match. It is understood that the Gunners had agreed to hand over a £2 million loan fee, plus pay most of Sahin’s wages, only for Liverpool to trump that by promising a £5 million fee and to cover all salary and relocation costs. Liverpool have also promised Sahin regular playing time, and working under Jose Mourinho’s close friend Brendan Rodgers has been a pull, as the 23-year-old still harbours ambitions of making the Madrid first-team next season. The Reds are now expecting Sahin on Merseyside in the next 24 hours, with Rodgers confirming a deal is close following Liverpool’s 1-0 win over Hearts in the Europa League last night. ‘Hopefully in the next 24 hours we will get some confirmation on that. It’s quite far along,’ Rodgers told reporters. Liverpool are not expected to have an automatic option to buy Sahin next summer, but will get the first refusal if he is put up for sale. Arsenal meanwhile, will turn to other midfield options after refusing to match Liverpool’s bid, believing it not to be value for money. Check out our latest daily transfer gossip live blog
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I'm not against offering more. It has worked for City, Chelsea. I know it's a pride thing; that we want players to join out of lust for the club and respect for our size, but the likes of Madrid and Barca pay big fees to get players.
The problem is spending a little too much to get the right players, that's good business, it's spending a lot to much on the wrong players. Mentioning no names. Stewart Downing.
The problem is spending a little too much to get the right players, that's good business, it's spending a lot to much on the wrong players. Mentioning no names. Stewart Downing.
A 5m fee for one year, is like a 20m fee for four years. Sounds about right. Although I was hoping it wouldn't be that much. Hope he's worth it.
Glen - what's your source there? We better have some option in there ...
Its here mate http://bbc-worldnews.net/2012/08/liverpool-guzump-arsenal-for-nuri-sahin-loan/#.UDdE4daPUdo
According to the echo there is no option to buy clause in there.
Even if there is no option to buy in the contract, should he come on the market next season, we would have to be first in the line to buy anyway(assuming he has a good season and he enjoys his time here).
All kinds of things can happen during a season-long loan. The loaning club can insist on all kinds of things, but it can't control what a player thinks and feels, and, who knows, Sahin might fall in love with LFC and what Rodgers is doing here. And if he doesn't, he'll still do a great job for a few months and will be a fine role model for those who are here for the long term.
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Sahin deal should be wrapped up today. No option for#LFC to buy the player, just a straight loan.
Sahin deal should be wrapped up today. No option for
Chillll Gezza mate. He's coming.
*puts back on wanking sock*
Only if we were to give him away for nothing after 4 years. More likely we'd get all that money back for a 27 year old.
Well, if we had him on a 4 year contract, then we would be giving him away for nothing after four years.
If we have him now on a 1 year contract for 5m, we could potentially sell him on in six months for 2m or so. Although I'm not sure if the rules allow that.
This might be worth breaking-out a new sock for Gerry!
Read the article, that covers the wages, so instead of us paying his wages we're giving them £5m upfront, the equivalent of 70% of his wage.
No its not, its a £5m loan fee and then 80k a week wages on top.
Yes, but that's not how things actually work and you know it. It's very rare nowadays for clubs to allow contracts of valuable players to run right to the end - the worst that usually happens is to sell out of desperation with a year to go. In reality alarm bells ring well before that point if the player shows no inclination to renew their deal.
The point is that £5m for one year is a fucking hefty chunk of cash. It's almost certainly more than Eden Hazard, say, will end up costing Chelsea a year.
Fuck that's dire.
I can't imagine we'll be paying all 120K of his salary on top of a 5 million loan fee. This article is probably wrong. There have been a lot of contradicting reports today.
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