In a good way though, not something inspired by shit.
Poll Next manager: Who'd you rather?
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SG has completely changed the footballing philosophy at Rangers (and has, interestingly, more or less adopted a high pressing 4-3-3). He has revitalised the squad with a mixture of youngsters and more mature players, some of whom he inherited. There's no doubt he has a massively positive impact on members of his playing staff.
Roy Hodgson could win a trophy in Scotland
They give Trophies in Scotland for being a useless Old Cunt?
I think he will gain a lot although he is more premier league proven than most others. But having a season or two in tough tactical battles at that level will make him good whatever he plans for later in the managerial career.
More premier league proven?
He has tha same amount of experience managing in the premier league as I do..! !!
Well he has some sense to what Premier League is all about. After all he has played there for quite some time. Your response is not very clever.
Some managers come and is hit hard by PL. I'll use Andre Villas-Boas as an example. When he first came to PL he tried to stick a certain type of play that had worked elsewhere as a bluecopy in the premier league. Those high fullbacks exposed his defence and he didn't ser what hit him at times. Having played in PL, also known as PL proven, will help Gerrard consider his game as a manager. The tempo and duell play is significantly different from some other leagues.
Fuck me. Did I really have to explain what i meant there?
He played in the PL?
Well I watch the PL all the time and I'm on here a lot. Am I also PL proven?
We are discussing future Liverpool managers here. Stevie' s name has been mentioned and is in the poll by the opening poster. For some peculiar reason your name has not been mentioned yet, but I assume you are among "others".
Please enlighten me. Besides watching PL and posting on the forum, do you have any qualities at all to be drawn into the discussion since you decided to put your candidacy out there. Any at all? If not I will not spare your name a single thought going forward in the discussion.
I agree: playing in the Premier League for nearly two decades; learning from managers such as Houllier, Benitez, Rodgers and Klopp; coupled with his experience as Academy Coach; his coaching qualifications and now his managerial experience in Scotland, would probably make him rather more well-equipped to understand the Premier League than many other candidates.
Although it doesn't always matter. Mourinho won it in his first season and he knew as much about the Premier League as Villas-Boas.
I suppose the closest obvious comparison would be Lampard. He's doing OK.
For every Lampard there's a whole host of failures.
Sol Campbell, Paul Ince, Gary Neville, Solskjaer, Sami Hyypia, Kevin Nolan, Paul Scholes, Thierry Henry, Glen Hoddle, Mark Hughes, Bryan Robson, John Barnes, Tony Adams, Graeme Souness, Ryan Giggs, Aflame Shearer, and Roy Keane.
All great Premier League players.
Playing in the Premier League means absolutely nothing when it comes to managing a team. How many teams in the PL are managed by a former PL player?
Steven Gerrard is no better qualified to manage Liverpool than Eddie Howe, Pochettino or Chris Wilder. I'd rather have BR back over him
Sol Campbell, Paul Ince, Gary Neville, Solskjaer, Sami Hyypia, Kevin Nolan, Paul Scholes, Thierry Henry, Glen Hoddle, Mark Hughes, Bryan Robson, John Barnes, Tony Adams, Graeme Souness, Ryan Giggs, Aflame Shearer, and Roy Keane.
All great Premier League players.
Playing in the Premier League means absolutely nothing when it comes to managing a team. How many teams in the PL are managed by a former PL player?
Steven Gerrard is no better qualified to manage Liverpool than Eddie Howe, Pochettino or Chris Wilder. I'd rather have BR back over him
Sure. But what Mourinho did in early years, I mean even winning CL with Porto, was outstanding and made him a 20M Pound a year manager. I would never compare him to Villas-Boas, who I just threw on the plate as an example. I think several ones have struggled in PL. I also think when Liverpool will appoint the next one it will be between Max 4-5 persons. Early years Mourinho, no matter how I dislike the guy, would fit in. Gerrard will now due to his history and based on that his knowledge, proven manager or not, to PL might be in his favour. But that doesn't mean i.e. Roy Keane having a good PL career would qualify.
I'd love to see God given the job. Mainly because I still love the lad
I'd much rather see Gerrard manager in the PL before we considered him.
If we were still competing for the CL spots then fine, but we're competing for the highest honours in the game and we need a manager who can continue that. Gerrard wouldn't be qualified to do so on paper. That's not to say he would prove me, and others wrong. He's done it countless times and is doing so at Rangers already.
If we were still competing for the CL spots then fine, but we're competing for the highest honours in the game and we need a manager who can continue that. Gerrard wouldn't be qualified to do so on paper. That's not to say he would prove me, and others wrong. He's done it countless times and is doing so at Rangers already.
A rumour I read today put Pep in the mix to take over from Klopp.
Putting aside the fact it’s clearly Bollox what would you make of Pep becoming our manager?
Putting aside the fact it’s clearly Bollox what would you make of Pep becoming our manager?
Which Pep ?
As annoyingly premature as this discussion is, it's not really fair to dismiss the likes of Gerrard, and instead say "Well, why not Eddie Howe"? because it is such an inexact science.
There's hardly any top-tier managers who genuinely can transform teams and make a palpable difference, because most managers are inter-changeable and range from "shite" through to "good" and then there's the rather unknown quantities, who are young and/or unproven.
We're lucky to have Klopp, who was (is) one of those rare, God-tier managers, so anything after him would feel like a a risk on some level.
There's hardly any top-tier managers who genuinely can transform teams and make a palpable difference, because most managers are inter-changeable and range from "shite" through to "good" and then there's the rather unknown quantities, who are young and/or unproven.
We're lucky to have Klopp, who was (is) one of those rare, God-tier managers, so anything after him would feel like a a risk on some level.
We have to give it to Oncy who was the first to call for Klopp's appointment. Way before anyone else. Even dedicated a thread specially for him which went for many pages, if I recall correctly.
Oncy wanted him sacked
So not Oncy then?
Gerrard is set apart from a lot of other candidates, including most of Hyena's long list in that at Rangers he has experience of being in a very high pressure goldfish bowl club, where the team is expected to win pretty much all the time. That's a pressure and mentality that fits very well with what will be expected of him at Liverpool. The press up there have learned very quickly that he suffers no fools. He takes zero shit, and is never on the back foot.
He is also set apart from most in that list in that he is managing a club playing in European competition and he has completely turned Rangers' recent dismal European record around, and is yet to be beaten at home in Europe (10w/ 4draws). Gerrard's European record has helped propel Scotland up the European national coefficient tables so for the first time in many, many years, Scotland are on the verge of regaining two CL places.
26 games 14 wins, 9 draws, 3 defeats
Rangers (previous 25 games before Stevie G arrived)
25 games 2 wins, 11 draws, 12 defeats
I think this indicates that he really does have some nous about him. It is early days, and as Brendan says, ANY appointment will be a gamble. However, I think some are dismissing Gerrard much, much too easily.
He is also set apart from most in that list in that he is managing a club playing in European competition and he has completely turned Rangers' recent dismal European record around, and is yet to be beaten at home in Europe (10w/ 4draws). Gerrard's European record has helped propel Scotland up the European national coefficient tables so for the first time in many, many years, Scotland are on the verge of regaining two CL places.
26 games 14 wins, 9 draws, 3 defeats
Rangers (previous 25 games before Stevie G arrived)
25 games 2 wins, 11 draws, 12 defeats
I think this indicates that he really does have some nous about him. It is early days, and as Brendan says, ANY appointment will be a gamble. However, I think some are dismissing Gerrard much, much too easily.
Oncy flip-flopped horrendously with Klopp. He said he HATED him at one point. Classic Oncy.
He currently hates Gomez. That'll last til Gomez gets a run in the side & he loves him again. Classic.
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