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Poll Next manager: Who'd you rather?

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Who'd you rather?

  • Pep Lijnders

    Votes: 16 42.1%
  • Steven Gerrard

    Votes: 8 21.1%
  • Someone else, who?

    Votes: 14 36.8%

  • Total voters
    38
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After watching Pep Lijnders latest press conference it makes me wonder if Klopp isn't drilling him to become his successor.
The media, former players and pundits all see Gerrard as Klopp's natural replacement but is he really?

For me it's a no brainer.
If Klopp wins us more trophies of course I'd rather we go with Pep, cause obviously "their" philosophy is working and why change it up?

To be completely honest, I even trust Benitez more than Gerrard.
 
Klopp is a good manager. That means he's going to give opportunities to people under him.

It doesn't mean that he 1) gets to choose his replacement or that 2) he is preparing him to be his replacement. It just means he's giving him some opportunity to grow, and isn't threatened by it.

Plus, I'm sure he's happy not to do another fucking presser, whereas Lijnders is beaming. It's cute.
 
Marco Rose (ex- Red Bull Salzburg manager) is a name to watch


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/f...ssia-Monchengladbach-blooming-Marco-Rose.html
[article]We know Jurgen Klopp is many things: tactical mastermind, proven champion, charming man. But prophet? Well, quite possibly.

It seems the Liverpool manager was just about the only person in the world who foresaw Borussia Monchengladbach leading the Bundesliga table after nine rounds of the season.

It was back in March that Klopp recorded a video message for his former player at Mainz and coaching disciple, Marco Rose, who was then the manager of Austrian club Red Bull Salzburg.

'I trust Marco in everything,' the Liverpool boss said. 'Marco can have any job and could do any job, too. He really is the most hyped [coach] of all at the moment, everyone is asking about you.'

Rose was at that time linked with a number of vacancies in the Bundesliga and beyond but it was Monchengladbach who managed to secure the services of one of the game's most exciting young managers.

Just a few months on and, against all expectations, unfashionable Gladbach find themselves a point clear of reigning champions Bayern Munich at the summit.

Not only that, but the Foals lead the way having played some of the most attractive football seen in the German top-flight this season.

A list of the top tourist attractions in the traditional textile city of Monchengladbach ranks the football club at No 2 so it's little wonder there's growing excitement around their success.

Gladbach are one of Germany's traditionsverein, having been around for 119 years and with five Bundesliga titles and two UEFA Cups in their trophy collection. They were European Cup runners-up to Liverpool in 1977.

But such success is a distant memory and the club declined from the 1980s onwards, even dropping out of the Bundesliga as recently as 2007.


Recent years have seen a revival and Gladbach have played in the Champions League in recent seasons. They came fifth last season under manager Dieter Hecking, whose contract was not extended in the summer.

But it seems Rose has come in and stepped firmly on the accelerator. Watch Monchengladbach play and it's easy to see the influence of Klopp in their high energy pressing game, the flexibility of their forwards and chance creation.

After a bore draw with Schalke on the opening weekend and a 3-1 home loss to title candidates RB Leipzig, things have come together with wins over Cologne, Fortuna Dusseldorf, Hoffenheim, Augsburg and Eintracht Frankfurt.

Even in their last reverse, 1-0 at Borussia Dortmund on October 19, they created the better openings but, for a change, just couldn't take them.

Rose, 43, has certainly lived up to Klopp's 'hype', continuing his good work from Salzburg where he first led their under-19 team to UEFA Youth League glory in 2017 and their senior side to back-to-back Austrian league titles.

Klopp, just nine years Rose's senior, had plenty of arguments with the defender when he first took over at Mainz, largely because he often put him on the bench.

But over time, Klopp came to appreciate Rose's dedication to the team and he became an influential figure in the dressing room as Mainz earned their first-ever promotion to the Bundesliga in 2004.


Even then, Klopp predicted that Rose would one day become a coach and it's clear the player absorbed everything.

'I spent a lot of years under Kloppo and it was a great time,' Rose has said. 'He shaped all of is. We picked up a few things in terms of football, but above all it was the way he was with people.'

Bankrolled by Red Bull millions, Salzburg have come to dominate Austrian football, winning the last six league titles and participating regularly in the Champions League.

But Rose has this season proved he can thrive outside of this bubble after Monchengladbach beat the likes of Schalke, Hoffenheim and Wolfsburg to his signature.

He is still in regular text message contact with Klopp and both of them can reflect with satisfaction this week at their respective sides sitting top in England and Germany.

Rose's first job in the summer was to work with sporting director Max Eberl to reinvest the €25million received from the sale of Thorgan Hazard to Borussia Dortmund.

They bought Swiss forward Breel Embolo from Schalke and poached left-back Stefan Lainer from RB Salzburg.

What's more, they persuaded France's 1998 World Cup winner Lilian Thuram that his in-demand son Marcus, a forward, would profit in his development from some time with them.

Rose assembled his team into a 4-3-3 formation that sees Thuram play alongside Embolo and fellow Frenchman Alassane Plea.

Thuram has scored five goals so far this season, Plea four and Embolo three, the trio causing havoc as they overload defenders down the flanks. Plea has also set up four other goals so far.

While Gladbach are flying high in the Bundesliga, their Europa League campaign needs a kick-start. They inexplicably lost 4-0 at home to Austrians Wolfsberger and only managed draws against Istanbul Basaksehir and Roma.

But they'll willingly sacrifice a long run in this season's Europa League in order to increase their chances of playing in the Champions League next season.

The last time Monchengladbach sat top of the Bundesliga for three consecutive matchdays was back in 1975-76, during their heyday.

With their team blooming again under Rose, Gladbach's fans are excited to find out what happens next.[/article]
 
I think Rose will end up at Utd in a coupe of years, following the Red Bull director who is hotly tipped to move there as dof.

I hope I'm wrong, cos they'd both be extremely good appointments.
 
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Well isn't Klopp supposed to be leaving in three years... Hope not. but if he does maybe Kloppo can get Marco Rose to come to us, maybe they even have a private agreement for Klopp to vouch for Rose when the time comes (I know wishful thinking, the thought of anyone good at United kills me lol)

Stevie G could do a Lampard that's the only thing I can think of but apart from that I feel lukewarm to Stevie G being Liverpool Manager for some strange reason, maybe if he can get Rangers over the line in Scotland I might change my thinking.

Pep Linjgers is the one Im most excited about. Seems to be cherished by Klopp and the squad, is known for his smart fresh thinking ideas in training and is good with youth players. However, can he handle being a manager as opposed to an assistant manager?
 
I have a feeling that it’s all but inevitable that Gerard will manage Liverpool after Klopp. Especially if Lampard is successful at Chelsea.
 
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If Gerrard and Lijnders are our 2 main choices, I would go for Gerrard. I believe in the power of personality; we know what Gerrard is like – obsessed, driven, miserable when things are not going right, a winner. I would not trust him to build up LFC from scratch, but if he comes to a team that's already on a solid foundation, I'm sure he will be smart enough not to mess with the things that work and add his drive and hunger to push for more trophies. I think Lijnders' main strength is the ability to gradually improve players' individual qualities through coaching; that's a great to have in a #2, but so far there is no indication that he has the kind of personality to take over a club of Liverpool's size. So far he has failed in his only stint as a #1. If Klopp leaves and Lijnders stays on as Gerrard's right-hand man, that could be an ideal scenario, actually.
 
If Gerrard and Lijnders are our 2 main choices, I would go for Gerrard. I believe in the power of personality; we know what Gerrard is like – obsessed, driven, miserable when things are not going right, a winner. I would not trust him to build up LFC from scratch, but if he comes to a team that's already on a solid foundation, I'm sure he will be smart enough not to mess with the things that work and add his drive and hunger to push for more trophies. I think Lijnders' main strength is the ability to gradually improve players' individual qualities through coaching; that's a great to have in a #2, but so far there is no indication that he has the kind of personality to take over a club of Liverpool's size. So far he has failed in his only stint as a #1. If Klopp leaves and Lijnders stays on as Gerrard's right-hand man, that could be an ideal scenario, actually.
I agree with you. But I think everyone will have been saying the same thing about Paisley at the time. Look what happened.
 
Neither G nor L for me.

Past affinity for the club should not be a reason to hire a manager.

If it were anyone else, would we hire the manager of Rangers FC or NEC to manage the European Champions? No.

That's how you become a mid table club like United.

The selection process for our next manager should be the same as the selection process that made us choose Rodger , and then Klopp. A proven manager with experience at the top and a record of making things better.
 
I would like to see Steve G on the bench but only if he proves himself in a big way in the next two seasons.
Let's see, it's still early to talk about it, Kloppo is here!
 
I'm sure he will get offers, certainly in the Championship, but probably in the second tier of PL teams too.

Will he gain much by helping Newcastle or Villa avoid relegation or even finish mid-table? He’s already got his foot in the door regarding the Liverpool job; all he needed to prove was that he wasn’t a nutter like Maradona and the like and can actually coach. Looks like he’s doing exactly that with Rangers; now he can stay there until the Liverpool job becomes available.
 
Will he gain much by helping Newcastle or Villa avoid relegation or even finish mid-table? He’s already got his foot in the door regarding the Liverpool job; all he needed to prove was that he wasn’t a nutter like Maradona and the like and can actually coach. Looks like he’s doing exactly that with Rangers; now he can stay there until the Liverpool job becomes available.

It would be interesting to see him as a manager in another club first, I'm not sure you can tell how big a managerial talent he is from a stint at Rangers.
 
It would be interesting to see him as a manager in another club first, I'm not sure you can tell how big a managerial talent he is from a stint at Rangers.

Yeah, it's not fair, or any kind of exact science, but there is very little reason to assign any kind of assurance to being a successful Rangers manager, or Celtic for that matter.

Unless you think Walter Smith, Martin O'Neill, Brendan Rodgers, Neil Lennon, or Ronny Deila should be the next Liverpool manager because they won trophies in fucking Scotland
 
Yeah, it's not fair, or any kind of exact science, but there is very little reason to assign any kind of assurance to being a successful Rangers manager, or Celtic for that matter.

Unless you think Walter Smith, Martin O'Neill, Brendan Rodgers, Neil Lennon, or Ronny Deila should be the next Liverpool manager because they won trophies in fucking Scotland

Ronny Deila is currently about to manage one of the largest clubs in Norway to relegation. So his career since his Celtic days are blossoming..
 
I think @rurikbird is right, and there is a sense of inevitability about SG becoming our manager in the future. However, I disagree that SG will not be able to build a team, I think he will more than capable of building a team and then forcing his will and style of play on the team. It will happen for sure.
 
I think @rurikbird is right, and there is a sense of inevitability about SG becoming our manager in the future. However, I disagree that SG will not be able to build a team, I think he will more than capable of building a team and then forcing his will and style of play on the team. It will happen for sure.

I'm sure you can say the same about any manager in football. I certainly felt the will and style of Roy Hodgson forced upon us!!
 
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