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Nemeth "I've fallen in love with AEK"

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Admittedly I didn't get to watch that much of the Youth/Reserves during Houlliers tenure but looking at the names from back then compared to our Youth-players of today there's a gulf between them in class. Or at least, in potential.

Pacheco is probably the most obvious talent of the lot, who's yet to be tested at firstteam level. The likes of Le Tallec and Sinama Pongolle came with great reputations too but I still believe this lad is of a different class. I wouldn't be surprised at all to see him start against Fiorentina for one.

Just below Pachecho, and this is where the real difference is between now and then I reckon, you'll find far more than a handful of prospects whom are all more or less looking like some of the biggest talents playing in England these days.

Eccleston - Extremely pacey, winger/striker-type with loads of tricks up his sleeve. Has got a real eye for goal and could be taylor made for our left side in attack in a few years.

Irwin - Despite his small stature he really looks like a player who's got loads of quality in almost every aspect of the game - appart from in the air maybe. Probably the closest thing to a Gerrard-type of player we've got. (There's more than just a long way for him to go if he's going to get anywhere near Stevie's class but there's something there).

Amoo - Strong, pacey winger with a rapidly improving technique too. Could be closer to a first-team outing than a few of his older teammates really. Seems to have got a lot of the same qualities as Babel really, hopefully he'll just keep on improving.

Kacaniklic - Another rather pacey, trickery left-winger with a decent cross. Has probably not been at his best form of late but he seems like he's got a lot of talent.

Buchtmann - Haven't seen much of him to be honest but he was classified as one of the best players at the U17 European Championship. Powerful left back with ability to play at left wing as well.

Mavinga - He was simply immense in his recent outing. Pacey, strong FB/CB with good skills on the ball too. He really looks like an amazingly talented and strong defender despite his tender age.

Poloskei - I've only seen him play once - against Everton - (this due to his long-term injury) but boy he was impressive. Like a Didi Hamann on speed. Strong, tall, great vision and a goal-threat. Quite skillful as well. He got injured again though so it's difficult to say whether we'd risk to tie him up on a permanent contract. He looked class though.

Palsson - Strong defensive midfielder who's probably going to be turned into a central defender over time. Has already been capped as cpt. for the Reserves. A leader with loads of potential. Strong and determined.

Saric - An oldschool no. 10. Great vision, great technique and a real goal-threat. Good pace too. He's still bulking up a bit though after beeing injured for most parts of his first Season here. When he settles in and finds his best form he could sooner rather than later be introduced at first team level.

And then there's striker Dalle Valle, defender Ayala, goalies Bouzanis and Hansen and right-backs Mavinga and Darby too.

Just to mention a few.
 
Yes, good post. There's some real progress being made. Reviving the shamefully dormant set-up was the first priority, and that's been done thanks to the arrival of some talented young foreign players. The next phase will be to revive the development of local players, and that's now just beginning to happen. We were looking at years and years of neglect here, so the changes have had to be dramatic with a view to the long term, but thank god they've finally happened.
 
Yeah, I agree with most of that too the_khl... although I don't rate Amoo as highly as others.
 
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Yeah, I agree with most of that too the_khl... although I don't rate Amoo as highly as others.
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I'm a bit torn on him myself.

It's quite obvious that he's got more than a few of the vital attributes to make it at the highest level (strength and pace), however whether his technique and skill can develop accordingly is another question all together. It has improved rapidly of late hence I'm starting to warm against him actually making the grade, as he's still young.
 
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thanks for the write up kristian.
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Cheers mate.

It really is interesting to be following 'the kids' these days, exciting to see whether some will actually make any real impact.

Fingers firmly crossed.

Macca do you know when then postponed reserve-fixture v Blackburn has been scheduled?
 
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I THINK it's this Wednesday.
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Thanks a lot mate.

How come the official can't reveal the Reserve-fixtures even a few days before kick-off is well beyond me.
 
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[quote author=Vlads Quiff link=topic=37533.msg1002328#msg1002328 date=1259574043]
The philosophy of the academy is different now, we are trawling Europe for young talent that has already been recognised, and paying accordingly , as opposed to the original philosophy of the academy that we bring youngsters in as schoolboys and develop them.




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That's rather misleading. While there's a readiness to bring in good prospects from abroad - which actually was always there in principle - one of the resons for Segura coming in last summer was to revive the practice of recruiting local talent and developing them. Here's Segura discussing his aims for the academy:


New Academy technical manager Pep Segura has a vision for the club’s youngsters, one that he hopes will provide the first-team with a Scouse heartbeat in the future.

The former Barcelona youth coach is one of the many new faces that arrived at the Academy in the summer, his mandate; to bring through local youngsters who will one day make an impact at first-team level.

Working alongside Reds legend Kenny Dalglish, Academy director Frank McParland and under-18s coach Rodolfo Borrell, his aim is simple - to produce the Robbie Fowler's, the Steve McManaman's and the Steven Gerrard's of this world on a more regular basis.

Here, he tells Liverpoolfc.tv all about his hopes for 09-10 and beyond.





First of all Pep, welcome to Liverpool Football Club. How have you settled into life in England?

At the moment, I have to admit I do not know too much about Liverpool as a place. I have been here before, but that was a long time ago, so I'm looking forward to learning more about the city now. Since arriving at the club I have put all my time and effort into what's best for the Academy, so I haven't been out that much. I'm really pleased to be here and I'm looking forward to the season ahead.

Was it an easy decision for you to come to Liverpool's Academy? You enjoyed great success as a first-team coach in Greece, didn't you?

Yes, it easy because I spoke to Rafa and I like the vision he has for Academy. I worked with Rodolfo for a long time at Barcelona and we are really looking forward to this new challenge. Hopefully in time we can help bring through young players for Liverpool's first-team. Obviously working with youngsters is very different to dealing with first-team professionals but, for me, this is an interesting job and one I am focused on doing well in.

What do you hope to achieve here at the Academy?

Our first objective is to find the best players available so we can work with them and try to help them make the step up to first-team level. We want the same mentality in all the coaches so that the players are used to playing the same system and style as the first-team. We want the players to show progress each year and hope to get good, young English players through the ranks.


What do you think of the new Academy set-up? Did you already know Kenny Dalglish and Frank McParland?

Like I say, I have worked many years with Rodolfo and we are very confident we can be successful here. I am getting to know Kenny. He is a legend, not just in Liverpool but in the football world in general. I am also looking forward to working alongside Frankie. He is a fantastic person and has already shown that he has faith in our work.

Can you tell Liverpoolfc.tv readers about your background?

I started out as teacher of physical education at Lleida University before joining Barcleona to work in their youth system. After a few years there I went back to Lleida before leaving Spain for a job in Greece. I was the coach of AEK Athens and later went on to enjoy success with Olympiakos. Now I am here and hope to do my best to ensure Liverpool has a bright future.

What would you regard as a successful first season at the Academy?

I have a lot of confidence in Rodolfo. I know we will work hard and do the best for the youngsters. In football, people often associate improvement and success with winning. I think this is important but for me, the most important thing is to progress. If we look five years down the line we want these players to be in the first-team of Liverpool Football Club. It's not about short-term success. We want to ensure Liverpool have a bright future. You have to decide whether winning the under-18 championship is more important than providing one player for the first-team. We would like to do both, but we know that the first-team is the priority.


http://www.liverpoolfc.tv/news/archivedirs/features/2009/aug/FN14966090822-0743.htm
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I don't think it's particularly misleading, I just don't think there is an option at the moment. If there is a renewed focus on local lads great, but I think in common with other parts of the UK there is a lack of young local talent coming through.
Partly caused by social change and partly from the lack of emphasis on competition in schools, although there has been a slight change there of late
You only have to look as far as Scotland as an example of vanishing players. Not so many years ago gritty Scots formed the bedrock of many First Division teams.


regards
 
We've lost several good local prospects to the buenoses in recent years - even though some were reds - because the families saw no future with us. Thank god that's now being changed.
 
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[quote author=Nemeth link=topic=37533.msg1002086#msg1002086 date=1259536091]
"They're really impressive and certainly more enthusiastic than Liverpool's. What I experienced at the derby with Olympiakos (in which Nemeth scored) was something that I've never felt before.
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No one going to comment on this?
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I believe him given that he's only played in our reserves so far.
 
‘A Star in the Making’ – Liverpool’s David Amoo


After moving from Millwall youth ranks in 2007, David Amoo has impressed during his time at Liverpool, helping the under 18s to the FA Youth Cup final in 2009 and progressing quickly to being in the starting eleven of John McMahon’s reserve side this season. Starting out as a prolific striker during his time at Milwall, Amoo has predominantly been used as a right winger during his spell on Merseyside.

He was a sought after signature by many top Premier League clubs as a youngster but the player opted to move north from London to Liverpool to be part of a vastly improving youth academy. The move has so far paid off for the winger, as last season his scored twelve goals, helping Liverpool to their third FA Youth Cup final in four years.

He had two significant moments during the campaign: he scored the only goal at Anfield against Chelsea’s under 18s to help Liverpool reach the quarter final of the competition, and produced a great run at the Emirates to provide a goal for Alex Kacaniklic in the two legged defeat to Arsenal in the final

The most notable attribute to Amoo’s game is his exceptional pace. It is no surprise he has represented London as a sprinter in the English Schools National Track and Field Championships, and he relies on it to make blistering runs from the right hand-side. On his day he can be unstoppable against opposition defences making him a very exciting player to watch. He has all the requirements to become an accomplished winger: he has strength, pace and a dribbling ability which gives a directness about his play. It gives him the ability to ghost past full backs to put in crosses and get himself into troubling positions in the opponent’s penalty box.

What gives him an extra edge though is that he was a formerly a striker, he has a eye for goal, which means he has an end product as well as the ability to create chances for others. It is something that the reserve team coaches are keen to get out of him. Reserve Head Coach John McMahon said after Amoo scored two against Hull in a recent 4-1 victory:

We keep saying to David he needs to be on the score sheet more often and he did well tonight, me and Antonio [Gomez Perez] lost a bet with him because we said if he scored tonight then Antonio would pay for the next meal we have out as a squad, so we are a little bit disappointed! I’m happy for David as he is always looking threatening and looking to score goals. It’s always nice to be threatening whenever we go forward.
There is no doubt that Amoo has progressed very quickly since his move from Millwall but there are still areas for improvement, including his final ball which like all young wingers will only get better with age and experience. For now he looks a very good prospect for the future, his pace will definitely be key. If he utilises it well with good ball-control, crossing and shooting ability, this player will be in prime position for a first-team place in the not-too-distant future. He reminds many of Ryan Babel, and if the Dutchman chooses to leave in January, Amoo will no doubt be an option for Rafa Benitez. He has been already selected in 28 man provisional squad for the Champions League at the start of the season to fill the English quota of players required by UEFA, but you never know, you might see him given a run out in a Europa League match in the coming months.
 
He's an exciting player. Rough round the edges, but his pace means he's always dangerous and really helps the team drive on. And McMahon is just the right kind of coach for him at this stage.
 
Please excuse my ignorance, but I'd never heard of McMahon before he took the job with us. Does he have a decent history when it comes to bringing through youngsters?
 
There's not much reason for you to have heard about him, but at Tranmere he built up a good reputation as an imaginative coach who commanded good respect and discipline as well as encouraged young players to express themselves. As someone to bring on the likes of Pacheco whilst instilling in them the down-to-earth 'Liverpool Way' he seems a very appropriate choice.
 
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There's not much reason for you to have heard about him, but at Tranmere he built up a good reputation as an imaginative coach who commanded good respect and discipline as well as encouraged young players to express themselves. As someone to bring on the likes of Pacheco whilst instilling in them the down-to-earth 'Liverpool Way' he seems a very appropriate choice.
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If he was the brain behind moving Pacheco to midfield, then he deserves a raise for that alone. I have just gotten around to watching some reserve game highlights. In terms of end product, Pacheco looks twice the player when played further away from goal.
 
I can't believe anyone can't see the progress we've made. Didn't partridge play for Staines against Leeds the other day?
I'm really hopeful that we Are creating a future base here.
 
[quote author=keniget link=topic=37533.msg1002966#msg1002966 date=1259621988]
Nah, Pacheco played in midfield last season.
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What do you mean by midfield - part of the 3 behind the striker in a 4231, or part of the 2? I always saw Pacheco as a no10 - is that not right?
 
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There's not much reason for you to have heard about him, but at Tranmere he built up a good reputation as an imaginative coach who commanded good respect and discipline as well as encouraged young players to express themselves. As someone to bring on the likes of Pacheco whilst instilling in them the down-to-earth 'Liverpool Way' he seems a very appropriate choice.
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Plus it might make his brother go easy on us once in a while 🙂
 
Michael Ngoo is a destined star and turned down everyone to go to us. The french Mavinga turned down Arsenal for Us. Our setup must be pretty impressive right now. These two alone are gonna change us. Mavinga will hopefully make a break through by the end of next year, I see him as our future LB (everyone has a french one). Michael Ngoo could easily make that 18 year old break through that we all crave. Boy is 6'4" at 17.
 
Pace is a key attribute at an early age, gives you something to build on as long as the player isn't a retard
 
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Arent AEK playing the Bitters in the UEFA Cup?
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Yes. Nemeth misses out with a leg injury.
 
Assulin mate, there's always room for one more on one of my bandwagons.

They are awesome by the way.
 
[quote author=the_khl link=topic=37533.msg1003883#msg1003883 date=1259702723]
Assulin mate, there's always room for one more on one of my bandwagons.

They are awesome by the way.
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I wonder why.
 
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Assulin mate, there's always room for one more on one of my bandwagons.

They are awesome by the way.
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I wonder why.
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They're roomy?
 
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