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"It was great to be back playing in a red shirt again, Id like to thank Jamie and the fans for showing me support even the ones who booed me. It was a privilege to play for Liverpool football club and this place is and forever will be in my heart and soul, and I hope the fans never forget that. Do I have regrets maybe! If I'd not joined Real who knows what might of happened?

I've been wrongly quoted in some interviews after I joined United, and I just like to set the record straight once and for all, Liverpool is the biggest club in Britain but we have to put our hands up and say that United are a huge club too"
 
[quote author=Jack D Rips link=topic=41761.msg1169962#msg1169962 date=1283636893]
Is this in the Sunday Mirror too Paddy?
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No this is my rumour.
 
Im divided. He IS St.Mike... but he did join man u. I want to believe and like him to 100% but I just cant.
 
Joining Real was a career move but its the way he forced a move that left a bitter taste in my mouth.

However, there's no excuse for him joining the scum.

His contribution to the club is historic but I have little regard for him as a man.
 
In the words of Abraham Lincoln (allegedly)

[size=13pt]"You can fool some of the people all of the time, and all of the people some of the time, but you can not fool all of the people all of the time."[/size]

;D
 
If he doesnt know why the fans are upset then he's a bigger tool than i thought..

still - he shouldnt have been booed considering it was Carra's day.
 
[quote author=gareth_thomas link=topic=41761.msg1170016#msg1170016 date=1283672602]
If he doesnt know why the fans are upset then he's a bigger tool than i thought..

still - he shouldnt have been booed considering it was Carra's day.
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He didn't suggest he didn't know.
 
If Owen was misquoted he should have piped up at the time.

That said, if he's said these things, these are handsome words from him now. This may be unpopular, but as far as I'm concerned it is better late than never.
 
That speech looks very much like he doesnt see much of a career at United. Their fans wont like that one bit. Me, i dont give a shit, he was a cracking player for us and he won us trophies but he ALWAYS looked out for himself and thats fine, his life, his career, ive no issue with that, but dont come back two years after joining United and dropping soundbites. You joined United! Thats all there is too it, be happy with your decision and well all move on.
 
In my humble opinion Michael Owen's comments were ill-advised.

A footballer should always reserve his highest praise for the club that is currently paying his enormous wages. He should say that the fans of that club are the best fans in the land. He should regularly be seen kissing the badge of that club.

You know it makes sense!

😉
 
I have very mixed feeling about Michael Owen, as some people are probably aware.
I was never , and am still not convinced by the popular view of how he left in the first place.
I think it suits some in the in the Owen v Fowler debate, or as it should be billed local supremely talented scally v clean cut professional from fairly privileged background.
I think we are now all a little more aware of how Rafa thinks than we were at the time, so this may not sound as daft as it once did.
I am convinced that Michael was given a helping nudge out of the door to Real Madrid by Rafa.
Owen had let his contract run down and at the time there was a lot of uncertainty surrounding Geds future , and I think Owen wanted to keep his options open as, one, it gave him some influence in matters (don't forget at the time he was as influential over matters as Torres and Gerrard are now) and secondly he could get off if needs be.
At the time of Rafa arriving and Owen going Real were in the midst of one of their presidential competitions. The sitting powers saw Morientes as expendable and Rafa always wanted him. On one hand Rafa had a Cisse being forced on him and Michael Owen who was being seen as slightly fractious, and on the other a Spanish player who he always thought highly of.
Sadly for Rafa, and Owen, more or less as soon as Rafa made his feelings known to Owen that days were over that he would be guaranteed being the first name on the team sheet and perhaps he should listen to what Real were saying, the Rafa hierarchy changed and the incoming powers saw Morientes as part of the future again, by this time Owen had already seen the dark side of Rafa and got off.

Where I do think Owen let himself and us down were his two subsequent Moves.
I am convinced had he shown more bottle (and perhaps a little more encouragement from Rafa), he could have ended back here instead of his ludicrous signing for Newcastle, even if it meant spending another half season in Spain.

The United signing was one of desparation and one that it sound to me like he really regrets and know he made a cardinal sin on doing.
However at the time given the choice between the options of thinking that the only option was a relegation fodder team to have United appear from nowhere and offer you a lifeline to the top echelons of the Premiership, it was an understandable decision, but as I said one that would come back to bite him in the arse.

Michael Owen has always looked after Michael Owen, and that it fair enough, remember this though, Owen ,like Gerrard, did when he was at his pomp, dragged us single handedly through many many games and during those times his efforts and loyalty were without question.

For that and that alone he deserves more respect than hearing a large handfull of plebs booing him at a charity testimonial at Anfield.


regards
 
Excellent post. I particularly agree with the bit about how he could have rejoined us instead of going to the Toon if he'd had the cojones.
 
Great post. I have always liked Michael Owen, and it's clear that he was, and remains, a Liverpool fan.

Certainly, Gerrard or fowler would never have joined United, even if they had had the opportunity, and that is disappointing, but whatever, He was a magnificent player for us, and gave me lots of great moments and memories
 
[quote author=Brendan link=topic=41761.msg1170059#msg1170059 date=1283684811]
Great post. I have always liked Michael Owen, and it's clear that he was, and remains, a Liverpool fan.

Certainly, Gerrard or fowler would never have joined United, even if they had had the opportunity, and that is disappointing, but whatever, He was a magnificent player for us, and gave me lots of great moments and memories
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If thats based on Paddy's quote, I think its been said Paddy made it up.

A 'Liverpool fan' would never ever in a Million years sign for Man utd.

A 'Liverpool fan' wouldn't have signed for Newcastle, he would have waited the extra 6 months to rejoin 'his' club.

Michael Owen is and always has been a 'Michael Owen fan', he will put himself first all the time, and everything he has done has backfired on him because of it.

He left Liverpool and we won the European Cup without him, he joined Newcaste AND ManU because he wanted his England career to continue, and it didn't 🙂

Karma Kismet whatever, its all bit him on the bum.

But he's still a millionaire and doesn't really have to give a shite anyway.
 
[quote author=Vlads Quiff link=topic=41761.msg1170050#msg1170050 date=1283683348]
I have very mixed feeling about Michael Owen, as some people are probably aware.
I was never , and am still not convinced by the popular view of how he left in the first place.
I think it suits some in the in the Owen v Fowler debate, or as it should be billed local supremely talented scally v clean cut professional from fairly privileged background.
I think we are now all a little more aware of how Rafa thinks than we were at the time, so this may not sound as daft as it once did.
I am convinced that Michael was given a helping nudge out of the door to Real Madrid by Rafa.
Owen had let his contract run down and at the time there was a lot of uncertainty surrounding Geds future , and I think Owen wanted to keep his options open as, one, it gave him some influence in matters (don't forget at the time he was as influential over matters as Torres and Gerrard are now) and secondly he could get off if needs be.
At the time of Rafa arriving and Owen going Real were in the midst of one of their presidential competitions. The sitting powers saw Morientes as expendable and Rafa always wanted him. On one hand Rafa had a Cisse being forced on him and Michael Owen who was being seen as slightly fractious, and on the other a Spanish player who he always thought highly of.
Sadly for Rafa, and Owen, more or less as soon as Rafa made his feelings known to Owen that days were over that he would be guaranteed being the first name on the team sheet and perhaps he should listen to what Real were saying, the Rafa hierarchy changed and the incoming powers saw Morientes as part of the future again, by this time Owen had already seen the dark side of Rafa and got off.

Where I do think Owen let himself and us down were his two subsequent Moves.
I am convinced had he shown more bottle (and perhaps a little more encouragement from Rafa), he could have ended back here instead of his ludicrous signing for Newcastle, even if it meant spending another half season in Spain.

The United signing was one of desparation and one that it sound to me like he really regrets and know he made a cardinal sin on doing.
However at the time given the choice between the options of thinking that the only option was a relegation fodder team to have United appear from nowhere and offer you a lifeline to the top echelons of the Premiership, it was an understandable decision, but as I said one that would come back to bite him in the arse.

Michael Owen has always looked after Michael Owen, and that it fair enough, remember this though, Owen ,like Gerrard, did when he was at his pomp, dragged us single handedly through many many games and during those times his efforts and loyalty were without question.

For that and that alone he deserves more respect than hearing a large handfull of plebs booing him at a charity testimonial at Anfield.


regards

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*claps*
 
Anyone on here would join United ahead of Stoke or Hull (which were his options). Anyone who holds that against him is just being ridiculous.
 
[quote author=Vlads Quiff link=topic=41761.msg1170050#msg1170050 date=1283683348]
I have very mixed feeling about Michael Owen, as some people are probably aware.
I was never , and am still not convinced by the popular view of how he left in the first place.
I think it suits some in the in the Owen v Fowler debate, or as it should be billed local supremely talented scally v clean cut professional from fairly privileged background.
I think we are now all a little more aware of how Rafa thinks than we were at the time, so this may not sound as daft as it once did.
I am convinced that Michael was given a helping nudge out of the door to Real Madrid by Rafa.
Owen had let his contract run down and at the time there was a lot of uncertainty surrounding Geds future , and I think Owen wanted to keep his options open as, one, it gave him some influence in matters (don't forget at the time he was as influential over matters as Torres and Gerrard are now) and secondly he could get off if needs be.
At the time of Rafa arriving and Owen going Real were in the midst of one of their presidential competitions. The sitting powers saw Morientes as expendable and Rafa always wanted him. On one hand Rafa had a Cisse being forced on him and Michael Owen who was being seen as slightly fractious, and on the other a Spanish player who he always thought highly of.
Sadly for Rafa, and Owen, more or less as soon as Rafa made his feelings known to Owen that days were over that he would be guaranteed being the first name on the team sheet and perhaps he should listen to what Real were saying, the Rafa hierarchy changed and the incoming powers saw Morientes as part of the future again, by this time Owen had already seen the dark side of Rafa and got off.

Where I do think Owen let himself and us down were his two subsequent Moves.
I am convinced had he shown more bottle (and perhaps a little more encouragement from Rafa), he could have ended back here instead of his ludicrous signing for Newcastle, even if it meant spending another half season in Spain.

The United signing was one of desparation and one that it sound to me like he really regrets and know he made a cardinal sin on doing.
However at the time given the choice between the options of thinking that the only option was a relegation fodder team to have United appear from nowhere and offer you a lifeline to the top echelons of the Premiership, it was an understandable decision, but as I said one that would come back to bite him in the arse.

Michael Owen has always looked after Michael Owen, and that it fair enough, remember this though, Owen ,like Gerrard, did when he was at his pomp, dragged us single handedly through many many games and during those times his efforts and loyalty were without question.

For that and that alone he deserves more respect than hearing a large handfull of plebs booing him at a charity testimonial at Anfield.


regards

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i think i agree with everything there. it's long been said that rafa was happy to let owen go - i think it even says so in the much-detested guillem balague's book aout rafa's first season with us.
 
[quote author=Rafiagra link=topic=41761.msg1170080#msg1170080 date=1283688630]
Anyone on here would join United ahead of Stoke or Hull (which were his options). Anyone who holds that against him is just being ridiculous.
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I wouldn't consider it.

Neither would Carragher and Gerrard. I doubt even Torres or Reina would ever consider playing for United.

What you said there is complete nonsense.
 
I was just thinking that. If I was a good enough footballer that I could play for the scum, I'm sure I could happily enjoy my career somewhere else without wanting to kill myself.
 
Thats because they are all playing for Liverpool. Of course they wouldnt.

However, stick them at a Championship club and then give them the choice.
 
He should have forced a move to us from Real, much the same way Mascher has done with Barca this year. Though I'm guessing he didn't, because he was worried Real wouldn't fold and it was a World Cup year the following summer. Owen has always put England commitments first (or at least level, with his clubs, imo). Ironic now, given that he hardly gets a look in, despite all what he's done for the country.
 
I guess it was a good thing that Owen went to Newcastle from Real, rather than to us, because he was injured most of the time and turned out to be a liability.
 
[quote author=Rafiagra link=topic=41761.msg1170088#msg1170088 date=1283690400]
Thats because they are all playing for Liverpool. Of course they wouldnt.

However, stick them at a Championship club and then give them the choice.
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I meant none of them would consider it - certainly not Gerrard and Carragher. I don't hold it against him and I wouldn't boo him, but to pretend that *everyone* would join United in this context is just plain wrong.
 
[quote author=Spionkop69 link=topic=41761.msg1170077#msg1170077 date=1283687398]
[quote author=Vlads Quiff link=topic=41761.msg1170050#msg1170050 date=1283683348]
I have very mixed feeling about Michael Owen, as some people are probably aware.
I was never , and am still not convinced by the popular view of how he left in the first place.
I think it suits some in the in the Owen v Fowler debate, or as it should be billed local supremely talented scally v clean cut professional from fairly privileged background.
I think we are now all a little more aware of how Rafa thinks than we were at the time, so this may not sound as daft as it once did.
I am convinced that Michael was given a helping nudge out of the door to Real Madrid by Rafa.
Owen had let his contract run down and at the time there was a lot of uncertainty surrounding Geds future , and I think Owen wanted to keep his options open as, one, it gave him some influence in matters (don't forget at the time he was as influential over matters as Torres and Gerrard are now) and secondly he could get off if needs be.
At the time of Rafa arriving and Owen going Real were in the midst of one of their presidential competitions. The sitting powers saw Morientes as expendable and Rafa always wanted him. On one hand Rafa had a Cisse being forced on him and Michael Owen who was being seen as slightly fractious, and on the other a Spanish player who he always thought highly of.
Sadly for Rafa, and Owen, more or less as soon as Rafa made his feelings known to Owen that days were over that he would be guaranteed being the first name on the team sheet and perhaps he should listen to what Real were saying, the Rafa hierarchy changed and the incoming powers saw Morientes as part of the future again, by this time Owen had already seen the dark side of Rafa and got off.

Where I do think Owen let himself and us down were his two subsequent Moves.
I am convinced had he shown more bottle (and perhaps a little more encouragement from Rafa), he could have ended back here instead of his ludicrous signing for Newcastle, even if it meant spending another half season in Spain.

The United signing was one of desparation and one that it sound to me like he really regrets and know he made a cardinal sin on doing.
However at the time given the choice between the options of thinking that the only option was a relegation fodder team to have United appear from nowhere and offer you a lifeline to the top echelons of the Premiership, it was an understandable decision, but as I said one that would come back to bite him in the arse.

Michael Owen has always looked after Michael Owen, and that it fair enough, remember this though, Owen ,like Gerrard, did when he was at his pomp, dragged us single handedly through many many games and during those times his efforts and loyalty were without question.

For that and that alone he deserves more respect than hearing a large handfull of plebs booing him at a charity testimonial at Anfield.


regards

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*claps*
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*with ovation*
 
Why?

He was running his contract down, how many times over the previous year did he say he would sort his contract out and never did?

He fucked us not once by leaving us for buttons.

Not even Twice by going to Newcastle when he could have 'done a Macher' and held out for Liverpool.

But THREE times by signing for the team we fucking hate the most in all the World.

But clap away by all means.

He's just (only just) below Doiuff in my list followed by Intanjie and now Macherano, and Macherano's only on there because he refused to play v City and all the fucking whinging he's done about us since!
 
[quote author=Asbo link=topic=41761.msg1170467#msg1170467 date=1283799800]
Why?

He was running his contract down, how many times over the previous year did he say he would sort his contract out and never did?

He fucked us not once by leaving us for buttons.

Not even Twice by going to Newcastle when he could have 'done a Macher' and held out for Liverpool.

But THREE times by signing for the team we fucking hate the most in all the World.

But clap away by all means.

He's just (only just) below Doiuff in my list followed by Intanjie and now Macherano, and Macherano's only on there because he refused to play v City and all the fucking whinging he's done about us since!
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I'm glad you were there to be the authority on all things Michael Owen. Except you weren't.
 
He didn't f'ck us by going to the Toon, he f'cked himself. And there's not one single professional footballer who would have turned the Mancs down if they'd been in the same situation.
 
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