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Michael Owen retires

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While I also wouldn't say that Owen simply "chose to play for Newcastle", I reckon you let him off a bit lightly yourself, because I don't agree that Real held all the cards. They wanted to sell, and Owen could have dug his heels in at that point and said "I go to Liverpool or I go nowhere". A number of us, of whom I was one, wondered at the time why he didn't do that if he was so mad keen on coming back to LFC.
I think the assumption at the time JJ was that rotting on the Real bench would have been detrimental to his England career (wasn't there a World cup due at the end of the season) and that his England career was more important at the time than returning to Liverpool
 
I think the assumption at the time JJ was that rotting on the Real bench would have been detrimental to his England career (wasn't there a World cup due at the end of the season) and that his England career was more important at the time than returning to Liverpool

Exactly. He had to play because of the upcoming World Cup. He agreed this with the RM president who said he could go on loan if needs be. Owen held plenty of cards, most players do.
 
Sorry, mate, but that's bull. They showed over and over that they weren't a natural combo at all.

I don't agree with the Torres comparison either. For all Owen's excellence he never quite scared the living sh!te out of defences the way Torres did at his best.


Oh, I didn't mean playing them together I just meant that we would have had 2 of the best strikers in Europe at our disposal.

We'll have to disagree on the Torres front. Owen at his peak, was more of a threat and a better finisher.
 
at least torres is still able to maintain his dignity as his career falls to bits, owen is just pityful
 
Westerveld - Retired
Babbel - Retired
Henchoz - Retired
Hyppia - Retired
Carragher - Retiring

Hamman - Retired
Gerrard
Smicer - Retired
Murphy
Mcallister - Retired
Berger - Retired

Fowler - Retired
Owen - Retired

:-(
One of my favourite ever Liverpool teams all but gone.
 
Well we might see soon

Whether he "wanted to see who was coming in as manager" or not, he still allowed his contract to run down. Everyone knows the signing of a new contract by a player who is likely to leave is all about guaranteeing a price for the selling club. He didn't sign one, we lost a lot of money. So, there can be no redemption for Owen on that point ever, unless the club come out and declare that, actually, they hadn't even offered him a contract.
 
Westerveld - Retired
Babbel - Retired
Henchoz - Retired
Hyppia - Retired
Carragher - Retiring

Hamman - Retired
Gerrard
Smicer - Retired
Murphy
Mcallister - Retired
Berger - Retired

Fowler - Retired
Owen - Retired

:-(
One of my favourite ever Liverpool teams all but gone.

There's no reason a masters league would not make far more money than the premier league.
 
If you arent interested in the conversation dont post in the thread dull cunt.
Hes one of our best ever players why wouldnt people STILL debate it.
Dick
 
If you arent interested in the conversation dont post in the thread dull cunt.
Hes one of our best ever players why wouldnt people STILL debate it.
Dick
I was cracking a joke my friend, you know, how people slag us off as too historical. It's called self deprecation, but as I say, I've no interest in sitting around on the internet calling some lad I've never ever met a few silly names. That's the conversation with you, me no want. Good luck.
 
Why is there a need for either Rafa or Owen to be the villain of the piece?

Both were in awkward positions, both made decisions they were comfortable with. We turned out alright, Owen was done shortly after he left us.
 
I was cracking a joke my friend, you know, how people slag us off as too historical. It's called self deprecation, but as I say, I've no interest in sitting around on the internet calling some lad I've never ever met a few silly names. That's the conversation with you, me no want. Good luck.
I knew what you meant. I was just being a knob.
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From Dean Windass' column:


TODAY'S modern game is all about pace, and yet there was a timely reminder this week that you can't rely on pace to last forever.

Michael Owen revealed this week he will retire at the end of the season. At 33 he's walking away from the sport while many strikers older than him are still playing.

Owen has had his injury problems and that will have played a big part in his thinking, but they all come down to his style of play.

His record at club level and for England speaks for itself and he will go down as an international goal-scoring legend alongside the likes of Bobby Charlton, Gary Lineker and Alan Shearer.

He has had a fantastic career at some of Europe's biggest clubs and he's scored goals everywhere.

His game has always been about pace, though.

It's always been about getting beyond the defender and relying on that pace to take him away from opponents.

When you are that style of player two things happen. As you get older and your pace starts to go, you can't make the same impact.

You also find that players who rely on being explosive start to pick up more injuries due to the impact down the years on their hamstrings etc.

It's much easier for forwards of my ilk, players like Shearer or Teddy Sheringham, to continue later in their careers because we have never relied on pace.

We are link-up forwards, we win the headers, create fouls, make space for others and don't rely on pace to get us in goal-scoring positions. That aids in extending your career as you can't lose something that has never been your major weapon in the first place.

I'm not taking anything away from players with pace, it's a huge asset.

But, it's interesting to note how those players tend to retire much earlier than those link-up type of forwards such as myself.

I'm glad to see Owen will be staying in the game and has been handed an ambassadorial role by the FA. He's always been a model professional, someone who was always on the back page for his performances and never on the front page for his off-field exploits.

He's a great guy for young kids to aspire to be like and for young pros coming through.

He's someone to learn from and be inspired by.

He'll call time on his playing days in a few weeks' time, still a Premier League player with a record anyone would love to have and for that, he'll never be forgotten.
 
at least torres is still able to maintain his dignity as his career falls to bits, owen is just pityful

Wank post. With whom does Torres have any dignity apart from some wanky 7 yr old fawny fan boys?

If we're discussing disgraces, that fruity freckled cunt is enemy #1.
 
Wank post. With whom does Torres have any dignity apart from some wanky 7 yr old fawny fan boys?

If we're discussing disgraces, that fruity freckled cunt is enemy #1.

We were not discussing disgraces. Torres still has some dignity left with himself, isn't that the definition of dignity? Maybe you are confusing respect with dignity/self-respect.

Owen's blogs, his tweets, his brochure, his desperate attempts to excuse his failed career and paint it as something else. Torres hasn't sacrificed his dignity like Owen has in an attempt to hold on to the respect of other people. After he fucked up and ruined his career he's had the good dignity to just live with it and accept the consequences like a man. Or maybe like a sulking child. Either way it is his way of dealing with the truth. Owen's way was to use a fake smile and PR to pitifully cover up a laughable train wreck of a career.
 
Bit late with this but need to post something on it.

I'll not lie, Michael Owen was my first hero as a kid. I was properly getting into Football and LFC when he burst onto the scene so it was inevitable i would be drawn to Owen as a footballer. He was absolutely deadly and every time it seemed like every time i watched Liverpool, he'd score. That was usually the case.

From the moment he left us for Madrid, his relationship with the fans soured and it's a shame some still can't acknowledge the positive impact he made in a Liverpool shirt.
From the way he went about running down his contract and later in his career, signing for the scum was obviously a bitter pill to swallow and understandably people can't forgive and forget that. Nonetheless, his achievements at LFC shouldn't be forgotten about.
Surely, he did too much for it to come to that?

Anyway, thanks for them brilliant 8 years(or so) Michael.
 
Michael Owen has my respect for what he done for our club. I applauded his goals and celebrated the Liverpool victories. He was a consumate young professional, role model and his squeeky clean image was a shot in the arm for the club. He was loved up until this point.

However, his own self importance and preference for England always weighed heavily against him. His move to Real fed his own ambition and was good for him only. It wasn't so much that he left for greener pastures but the way he engineered his exit which left a bitter taste. Our club were screwed in the deal and I got a whole lot of satisfaction when it went tits up for him.

His career after Liverpool was inconsequential and he was a shadow of his former self. He was always motivated by money. His move to the Scum was a slap in the face for every Liverpool fan. His retirement means nothing. However, his comments about being overplayed at Liverpool contributing to his early retirement and if he had chosen Utd ahead of Liverpool would have prolonged his career are nothing but a cheap shot at our club. For those reasons he won't be missed and is now largely reviled.
 
I'm telling you, the kid did love the club. But the adult, well, he lost the love. It's a great shame - these goals reminded me of how great he was (beyond the tap-ins). He should be enjoying revered status with us know, had he handled all his moves better. Again, a great shame.
 
I buzz off Michael Owen, twitter addict, claiming "the truth will soon come out !!!"

That's lovely Mikey but really, who'll give a flying fuck ?
 
I buzz off Michael Owen, twitter addict, claiming "the truth will soon come out !!!"

That's lovely Mikey but really, who'll give a flying fuck ?

I can imagine the truth will be similar to this:

 
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