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Meireles put a shift in today & looked a class player.

Problem is he's playing where a certain Steven Gerrard plays.

Now, maybe I'm a bit mental, but I think if you put Adams in behind Meireles to make play, then Stevie belongs on the right as he's clearly the best player in the position for us.

I understand people wont wanna do that, & he himself may not be overjoyed, but for the good of our team I think he needs to play there.
 
If we're playing a 4-2-3-1, Gerrard will be just off Torres with Meireles and someone else (Adam/New DM) behind him. That'd be our best midfield.

With Young and Suarez as the wing-forwards (prays).
 
[quote author=SaintGeorge67 link=topic=43762.msg1259336#msg1259336 date=1295708074]
I'd move gerrard back to the middle anyway.

Adam.... Gerrard
Meireles
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Why though? Meireles is a CM and Gerrard is an AM. That's where they should play.
 
Just play Gerrard behind Torres and play Adam and Meireles together in midfield.
 
I'd play Gerrard off Torres with Raul behind. He will still make late runs and join up with attack.
 
We would definately need some kind of midfield break up player. Though Ming is great at going forward and with the ball etc he has wimped out of a few too many challenges
 
Meireles behind Torres... Torres was rarely isolated today as Meireles was running so hard to give him support..

Gerrard is far better running from deep. Gerrard can tackle, pressure and his burst of pace assists him to win a lot more in the centre of the park. I've never really bought this..'.Gerrard, being behind the striker' shite. He can shoot and score... but he is far more effectual when he gets on the ball and controls the 'engine room'
 
[quote author=ILD link=topic=43762.msg1259356#msg1259356 date=1295708414]
I'd play Gerrard off Torres with Raul behind. He will still make late runs and join up with attack.
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likes this very much. But means we need a massive defensive midfilder in the mould of Mascher to mop things up. Adams seem like a good candidate for that role.
 
[quote author=Modo link=topic=43762.msg1259352#msg1259352 date=1295708335]
Just play Gerrard behind Torres and play Adam and Meireles together in midfield.
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Adam and Meireles are both excellent footballers but would be easy meat for more physical opponents. We'd need to play a midfield terrier behind them and that would only leave room for one winger.
 
[quote author=FoxForceFive link=topic=43762.msg1259332#msg1259332 date=1295708018]
Meireles put a shift in today & looked a class player.

Problem is he's playing where a certain Steven Gerrard plays.

Now, maybe I'm a bit mental, but I think if you put Adams in behind Meireles to make play, then Stevie belongs on the right as he's clearly the best player in the position for us.

I understand people wont wanna do that, & he himself may not be overjoyed, but for the good of our team I think he needs to play there.
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Talking about this in another thread..

I'd have Gerrard as the Anchor man.. with Adam slightly in front with Ming behind Torres.

Great Balance in Midfield..

Gerrard is the other side of thirty, granted still a great player.. that could be the position for him in the future. Turn him in to a Souness type player he has the attributes for it most certainly.
 
[quote author=ILD link=topic=43762.msg1259356#msg1259356 date=1295708414]
I'd play Gerrard off Torres with Raul behind. He will still make late runs and join up with attack.
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He can play a "more-advanced-Xabi" role for us. We'll need a top class DM to cover behind them. Is Mascherano available?
 
[quote author=Judge Jules link=topic=43762.msg1259366#msg1259366 date=1295708605]
[quote author=Modo link=topic=43762.msg1259352#msg1259352 date=1295708335]
Just play Gerrard behind Torres and play Adam and Meireles together in midfield.
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Adam and Meireles are both excellent footballers but would be easy meat for more physical opponents. We'd need to play a midfield terrier behind them and that would only leave room for one winger.
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I think you do need a defensive shield if Gerrard and Meireles play together in the cente.
There is a great player stuck on the bench at Barca who would be perfect for the role.
I will get back to you if I can think of his name.

Edit great minds think alike, eh Jimmy?
 
[quote author=Judge Jules link=topic=43762.msg1259366#msg1259366 date=1295708605]
[quote author=Modo link=topic=43762.msg1259352#msg1259352 date=1295708335]
Just play Gerrard behind Torres and play Adam and Meireles together in midfield.
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Adam and Meireles are both excellent footballers but would be easy meat for more physical opponents. We'd need to play a midfield terrier behind them and that would only leave room for one winger.
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Agree with that. We really need a DM - I'm not very comfortable with the idea of Meireles and Adam together myself.
 
Gerrard has no peer as a CM and that's where he should play. Nobody can run, tackle or shoot like him.

Pair him with Adam and nothing gets by. Raul can support Torres and is full of running.
 
I wouldn't let Gerrard play as an anchor, cos he can still run the game and move forward with pace I dont want him being restricted in a holding role.
I would rather buy a midfield destroyer type player like Count mentioned to allow Gerrard and ming to go forward at will
 
[quote author=RolandG link=topic=43762.msg1259387#msg1259387 date=1295708935]
Gerrard has no peer as a CM and that's where he should play. Nobody can run, tackle or shoot like him.

Pair him with Adam and nothing gets by. Raul can support Torres and is full of running.
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Is the right answer...
 
Gerrard, Adam and Meireles shifting around in midfield is more than good enough..

A Defensive midfielder with limited attacking ability is not the answer.

Meireles has pulled out of a few tackles but the defensive aspect of his game is being completely underrated here. He can harass and close down quickly and if the ball is even remotely loose you know with one touch he is likely to find an open Liverpool player with a pass.
 
[quote author=SaintGeorge67 link=topic=43762.msg1259350#msg1259350 date=1295708276]
Gerrard is everything
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Which is true. Except he's had his best seasons as an AM, either off Torres or on a free role on the right.

He is also the most complete attacking player at the club (and one of the best in the world for that matter) and therefore he should play in the attacking third. The idea of playing him in central midfield if you have two competent central midfielders is a bit silly.

Of course, if the options are Lucas and Poulsen only, it should be him in the centre every time.
 
[quote author=dmishra link=topic=43762.msg1259385#msg1259385 date=1295708914]
[quote author=Judge Jules link=topic=43762.msg1259366#msg1259366 date=1295708605]
[quote author=Modo link=topic=43762.msg1259352#msg1259352 date=1295708335]
Just play Gerrard behind Torres and play Adam and Meireles together in midfield.
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Adam and Meireles are both excellent footballers but would be easy meat for more physical opponents. We'd need to play a midfield terrier behind them and that would only leave room for one winger.
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Agree with that. We really need a DM - I'm not very comfortable with the idea of Meireles and Adam together myself.
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Wait a minute your telling me that ADAM will be easy meat for more physical opponents.
Have you seen how big he is?
 
[quote author=Modo link=topic=43762.msg1259398#msg1259398 date=1295709201]
[quote author=dmishra link=topic=43762.msg1259385#msg1259385 date=1295708914]
[quote author=Judge Jules link=topic=43762.msg1259366#msg1259366 date=1295708605]
[quote author=Modo link=topic=43762.msg1259352#msg1259352 date=1295708335]
Just play Gerrard behind Torres and play Adam and Meireles together in midfield.
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Adam and Meireles are both excellent footballers but would be easy meat for more physical opponents. We'd need to play a midfield terrier behind them and that would only leave room for one winger.
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Agree with that. We really need a DM - I'm not very comfortable with the idea of Meireles and Adam together myself.
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Wait a minute your telling me that ADAM will be easy meat for more physical opponents.
Have you seen how big he is?
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I'm not overly excited with Adam. I've seen very little of him mind, but from all accounts, he's not particularly mobile and is a ball-playing midfielder. Pairing such a player with Meireles who doesn't do much chasing around himself WILL be easy meat for the better midfields in the league.
 
[quote author=gareth_thomas link=topic=43762.msg1259392#msg1259392 date=1295709054]
Gerrard, Adam and Meireles shifting around in midfield is more than good enough..

A Defensive midfielder with limited attacking ability is not the answer.

Meireles has pulled out of a few tackles but the defensive aspect of his game is being completely underrated here. He can harass and close down quickly and if the ball is even remotely loose you know with one touch he is likely to find an open Liverpool player with a pass.
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"Can" isn't good enough. In the Prem he has to make it count, and it's not going to happen until he finds his tackling boots again. I like the guy and he played very well today, but this is something he and the coaches definitely have to work on.
 
[quote author=Judge Jules link=topic=43762.msg1259405#msg1259405 date=1295709449]
[quote author=gareth_thomas link=topic=43762.msg1259392#msg1259392 date=1295709054]
Gerrard, Adam and Meireles shifting around in midfield is more than good enough..

A Defensive midfielder with limited attacking ability is not the answer.

Meireles has pulled out of a few tackles but the defensive aspect of his game is being completely underrated here. He can harass and close down quickly and if the ball is even remotely loose you know with one touch he is likely to find an open Liverpool player with a pass.
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"Can" isn't good enough. In the Prem he has to make it count, and it's not going to happen until he finds his tackling boots again. I like the guy and he played very well today, but this is something he and the coaches definitely have to work on.
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He can defend. And if he is asked to do the job.. He will do his best.

considering we may (if Adam signs) have 3 quality, composed and technical midfielders we should use them. all 3 of them can do a good enough job defensively to help us win against 80% of the teams in the premier league
 
We dont necessarily have to play all 3 at the same time. It would be nice to have some quality in centre midfield. We should sign a good defensive midfielder in addition to Adam.
 
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