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Match thread Sunderland - Liverpool

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[quote author=LadyRed link=topic=44626.msg1302731#msg1302731 date=1300637582]
Spearing was our best player along with Suarez.

433 would have left us a man short in the middle of the park, and we would have gotten overrun IMO
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Obviously I didn't watch the game, but theoretically 433 gives you an extra man in "the middle of the park"
 
[quote author=ILD link=topic=44626.msg1302693#msg1302693 date=1300636046]
[quote author=Krump link=topic=44626.msg1302599#msg1302599 date=1300633942]
spearing.jpg

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LOL @ SPEARING.
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Oh, shit, I missed that !

Hahahaha !
 
No Robin cos with a 4231 when you don't have the ball you slot into a midfield 5. And you have a clear defensive two always
 
[quote author=LadyRed link=topic=44626.msg1302748#msg1302748 date=1300638372]
No Robin cos with a 4231 when you don't have the ball you slot into a midfield 5. And you have a clear defensive two always
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You can do this with 433 just the same, it becomes 4141 when defending. Mourinho's Chelsea would do it all the time.
 
And in fact 4231 really becomes 4411 when defending. The lone link man doesn't usually slot into the midfield too well.

With 4141 you have two banks of four defending and an extra roaming DM to back up whoever is defending zonally.
 
I just think we fit better with 4231, Lucas and Spearing make a neat deeper two, it allows Meireless to be right up behind the striker and Suarez and Kuyt to be able to drop deep to collect the ball without Carroll being isolated as Meireless is further up.
 
I'd prefer to see a flexible 433, but with Spearing, who clearly has the greatest defensive capacity given the opportunity to play the DM role.

Also it would clearly best suit Suarez and Kuyt playing wide forward roles.
 
[quote author=LadyRed link=topic=44626.msg1302761#msg1302761 date=1300639109]
I also think 4231 allows you more width, as you're sitting two allow your full backs to get up more
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The fullbacks are just as important in a 433 - you don't usually get the two attacking midfielders going forward together anyway, so you can still sort of have the two defending midfielders.
 
[quote author=LadyRed link=topic=44626.msg1302765#msg1302765 date=1300639252]
Either way, 433 or 4231, I'm happy with. I just *hate* seeing us play 442
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I wouldn't mind, but it doesn't work without proper wide men, of which we have none
 
Just saw the goal. What a find suarez is/ we need 3 more like him. Love his hard working attitude.
 
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[quote author=LadyRed link=topic=44626.msg1302603#msg1302603 date=1300634000]
What I love about Suarez the most is his nuttiness
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Our version of tevez, but more skillful and a better goalscorer.
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Tevez has scored 41 goals in 58 games for Man City playing up front on his own. He's an absolute superstar.

I love Sexuarez, but he's going to have to be some player to be a "better goalscorer" than that mate.
 
[quote author=robinhood link=topic=44626.msg1302758#msg1302758 date=1300638936]
And in fact 4231 really becomes 4411 when defending. The lone link man doesn't usually slot into the midfield too well.

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It becomes a 4-5-1 Robin.
 
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