• You may have to login or register before you can post and view our exclusive members only forums.
    To start viewing messages, select the forum that you want to visit from the selection below.

Manchester City reject Liverpool's Andy Carroll for Carlos Tevez offer

Status
Not open for further replies.

iseered

Well-Known
Member
http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2012/jan/28/liverpool-andy-carroll-carlos-tevez?CMP=twt_gu

Liverpool have made a remarkable bid to swap Andy Carroll with Carlos Tevez and move on their club-record £35m signing not even a year after signing him from Newcastle United.

The Anfield club contacted City on Thursday to ask how much they want for Tevez and whether they would be willing to contemplate a straight exchange with Carroll. Brian Marwood, the City football administrator, rebuffed the idea immediately, even though Carroll is a player Roberto Mancini has admitted admiring when he was at Newcastle.

The move demonstrates how Liverpool are now openly looking at offloading Carroll despite the insistence behind the scenes at Anfield that he can still play a prominent part and Kenny Dalglish's praise for the player after the 2-1 FA Cup defeat of Manchester United.

Carroll has scored only six goals in 35 appearances since becoming the eighth most expensive footballer in history and has not even been able to establish himself as a regular starter this season.

His problems adapting on Merseyside have also left Liverpool willing to take a £10m hit on the player, with Tevez valued at £25m, though that revelation is hardly surprising considering his difficulties at Anfield, added to the sense that he has not always been fully focused.

Fabio Capello, the England manager, has already expressed misgivings about the lifestyle of a player who has managed only two league goals this season in 20 appearances.

Those remarks went down badly at Anfield, with Dalglish defending Carroll, but the questions will probably not go away until he becomes a regular scorer. Carroll's longest run of starts this season is three games and Marwood's decision was made on the basis that he could no longer improve their team even though Mancini has a shortage of front players at a time when Tevez's strike is in its 11th week and Mario Balotelli is now serving a four-match suspension.

Tevez is planning to return to Manchester next week now it has become apparent that Milan are not able to meet City's asking price and, unless anything changes before Tuesday's transfer deadline, his adviser, Kia Joorabchian, says the Argentinian wants to re-establish himself in the team.

Whether that is possible remains to be seen, with Mancini not prepared to entertain the idea unless there is an apology from Tevez for walking out on the club and the string of other offences that have already led to him being found guilty of gross misconduct and losing almost £10m in wages, fines and lost bonuses since the start of the season.

Tevez is still a formidable striker and finished as the league's joint-top scorer last season, but he will be returning to England with a severely damaged reputation and Liverpool's attempt to take him along the M62 will surprise many people given his propensity for causing dressing-room problems and an apparent dislike of living in England.

There is also the fact that, approaching his 28th birthday, he would not have fitted into Liverpool's usual policy of buying players at a young age who will keep a resale value over the course of their contract. Liverpool, however, were willing to make an exception and City would have been glad to arrange a deal after unsuccessful talks not just with Milan but also Juventus, Internazionale and Paris St-Germain. They remain open to offers for the Argentinian but will not change their mind about Carroll.
 
I know I'm gonna be one of a couple in this but I would be happy to have tevez in the side
 
[quote author=Sheik Yerbouti link=topic=48480.msg1472883#msg1472883 date=1327792759]
I wouldn't have that piss taking prick anywhere near our club. And I wouldn't have Tevez either.
[/quote]

ta boom tisk
 
Thing is, Tevez is on abaa £250K a week at the moment.

Are we really prepared to get into that area, wages-wise ?
 
Easy thing for Carroll to do would be to go back to the Toon. If he has anything about him he'll stay where he is and work his nuts off to make it work.
 
Being a football writer is a piece of piss. It doesn't. Matter if you've not got any material prepared for the weekend edition, just make up a pile of shite and pass it off as fact.
 
Actually this reminds, was there any truth to those mid week rumours that we were in talks with city over a player ? I thought it was just shite and a fake twitter account / rumour etc or? .

Anyway i reckon fuck morals and all that ,we're shite up front and if we could get a player of that quality then do it . Obviously though i doubt we will .

And anyway who knows what really happened , mancini accused him of all sorts but in the end they only fined him for not warming up. But the biggest problem with tevez is that he is a bit strange , always talking about retiring or going home .
 
If this is true, I certainly hope we'll step up with a follow up offer - even a loan deal till end of season will be a good move imo.
 
Tevez is definitely not worth the 24M+ he would cost. He's not as young as we was and he's never going to settle down in Europe, so the most you could have him for is one or two years and then his value would plummet.

A swap for Carroll would have been interesting though. I would have taken it.
 
The Grauniad is stooping to the level of the Star with that one.

If we could afford Tevez I would not turn my nose up at him , even on a short term contract, I know he is a twat and a disruptive influence, but Tevez problem is he goes to teams where he is not guaranteed a place, and he just has to be playing, I don't think he is any different from the vast majority of players in that outlook, and certainly not Suarez, I could imagine Louis being a handful in that situation. He is a fantastic player, him and Suarez in the team would be a nightmare for defenders.
Still it is unlikely to happen anyway


regards
 
[quote author=Vlads Quiff link=topic=48480.msg1473023#msg1473023 date=1327833884]
The Grauniad is stooping to the level of the Star with that one.

If we could afford Tevez I would not turn my nose up at him , even on a short term contract, I know he is a twat and a disruptive influence, but Tevez problem is he goes to teams where he is not guaranteed a place, and he just has to be playing, I don't think he is any different from the vast majority of players in that outlook, and certainly not Suarez, I could imagine Louis being a handful in that situation. He is a fantastic player, him and Suarez in the team would be a nightmare for defenders.
Still it is unlikely to happen anyway


regards
[/quote]

I don't even think it's just that, I think he wants to be at a club where he's idolised from top to bottom, and we're the kind of club and supporters who would give him that. As you said, him and Suarez would be a mare for the opposition.
 
I'd swap him for Andy Carroll in a heart beat.

Very little to lose and potentially a lot to gain.
 
Surely this article is nonsense?

Though it would be 'moneyball' to revitalise a talented but unmotivated player I suppose. Unfortunately Tevez is so far up his own arse it would never work out well, though I suppose a tribe of south Americans in the squad might help him settle.
 
[quote author=mark1975 link=topic=48480.msg1473036#msg1473036 date=1327836090]
[quote author=Vlads Quiff link=topic=48480.msg1473023#msg1473023 date=1327833884]
The Grauniad is stooping to the level of the Star with that one.

If we could afford Tevez I would not turn my nose up at him , even on a short term contract, I know he is a twat and a disruptive influence, but Tevez problem is he goes to teams where he is not guaranteed a place, and he just has to be playing, I don't think he is any different from the vast majority of players in that outlook, and certainly not Suarez, I could imagine Louis being a handful in that situation. He is a fantastic player, him and Suarez in the team would be a nightmare for defenders.
Still it is unlikely to happen anyway


regards
[/quote]

I don't even think it's just that, I think he wants to be at a club where he's idolised from top to bottom, and we're the kind of club and supporters who would give him that. As you said, him and Suarez would be a mare for the opposition.
[/quote]

I think you are right, he just wants to be loved, unfortunately he always ends up being hated.
He really should have come here from United.

regards
 
I would be so happy if this were true cos it would mean we are actually trying to offload Carroll
 
I'd definitely take Tevez. He's a brilliant player who has proved over a few years that he can do the business in the Premier League. His behaviour is shit but at the right price he's well worth a try.

At one stage Anelka was easily as bad as him in terms of attitude but he improved that. Why couldn't Tevez?

the Carroll aspect is unhelpful though. No way City would take him and it only makes matters worse for him.
 
If this is true we must genuinely be getting shut of him, the club knows it would get out & be adverse to his confidence, so to go ahead & do it means his days are numbered here.

I'm still very sceptical that it is true though.
 
[quote author=FoxForceFive link=topic=48480.msg1473049#msg1473049 date=1327837167]
If this is true we must genuinely be getting shut of him, the club knows it would get out & be adverse to his confidence, so to go ahead & do it means his days are numbered here.

I'm still very sceptical that it is true though.
[/quote]

no way is it true
 
Status
Not open for further replies.
Back
Top Bottom