From two Liverpoolplayers so that cancel out the offside.
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From two Liverpoolplayers so that cancel out the offside.
He was onside when initially played by a man city player. Everything after then is irrelevant, position wise
I don't understand the offside rule at all. If the opposition player plays the ball "on purpose" towards the other player, it can't be offside? Why would Milner do that? It's so murky.
Brendan - I think Bobby moved left as it was evident Salah wasn't 100% and Klopp preferred to limit his exertion up front while Sane and Bobby did the dirty work.
It's only in the last 3 months (since the spurs game) that's it's been debated
Milner might not have meant that pass, but he definitely deliberately tried to hit the ball with his foot.
It's fucking thick and shit and daft
this is amazing. the city fans welcoming the team bus.
A lot of credit has to go to Salah for the firmino goal. Otamendi was going to pass back to the goalie it looked like and salah saw that and started to move forward. Otamendi then saw Salah move so he changed his mind and had nowhere to pass as Salah was also blocking a defender. So he was limited and took too long which gave firmino the opportunity to get the ball.
We didn't get anything from him the Whole night (except that offside decision which was crucial but given by linesman). But that was ok, not too much complaints about those situation where we were outmuscled and I think we understood early we wouldn't get anything so we just had to play on. VvD could have had a freekick, but he pretty much fucked that situation up himself. A few other similar situations, but this is football so no probs. Of course irritating that City got a few situations their way which felt unjusted (Mane vs Otamendi and Firmino booking) but that was jsut cheating anyway so the ref was fooled.
Wow. Imagine coming into that at your own stadium after what you saw at ours? Why would anyone sign for those twats if they have an ounce of pride. Oh yeah, filthy oil money. Fuck them, fuck their little plastic flags, and fuck their shite fans up the hoop.
Sadly, I can see most clubs goong that way. Sanitised corporate experience. As long as we can hold onto our traditions and identity for as long as possible the better.
Is that the sound of Milner running past us?
Klopp should tell him that Klavan's eaten the medal and he will have to wait for him to shit it back out. 'Here's a stool, a bucket and some gloves - enjoy'.
I Guess if it is Down to Klopp, he will rather give it to someone that wants to win it.
Why is "everything after irrelevant"? Karius cleared the ball from the move where Sane was onside, it hit Milner and came back to Sane who was in an offside position. The only question is, did Milner play Sane onside?
I guess it is down to interpretion at times if the player intends to play the ball or not as in the Spurs game where Kane was offside on the first pass and a possible Lovren touch didn't change direction or intent of the play. But in this case noone can argue that the pass comes from Milner and hence he is onside.
In my view, he was offside unless one's claims that Milner's intention was to pass the ball back to Karius but I've heard all sorts today. A bit like Lovren's touch on Calvert-Lewin, and then the touch on Lallana-- both given as penalties but the shrill interpretation in the former gave way to "it's a contact sport" in the latter. Until football decides which is which VAR is pointless.
As long as he was onside on the original pass from the City player I Guess he never benefitted from an offside position anyway. So when Our guys started to pass it around between them With no City player invovled he would never be offside.
I thought that's the way it used to be but now I think Milner's intention as to where he's playing it, doesn't matter. If he intentionally plays the ball at all, he plays him onside.
Was it Bobby? I was sure it was Kane all the time........
I've not gotten any work done all morning. 80% of my time was spent rewatching Mo's goal.
I think that's a fair enough point. I wonder if the linesman thought the ball came from a City player?
...I don't get your argument. If the linesman believes a city player passed it forward, sane is off. As it was milner, by the letter of the law he was onside because we gave him the ball.
Milner, regardless if he meant to pass it to sane, made an action like he intended to kick the ball. That's a deliberate attempt to play the ball
Doesn't matter how shit a touch it was, he meant to touch it
It's the only possible reason it wasn't given
It was hardly a deflection. Milner kneed it towards goal. It definitely should have been given.
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